And I thought you guys were just about ready to let this drop.
nianjiilical wrote: ↑Sat Sep 17, 2022 10:17 pm
the simple fact is that the more we allow and permit people throwing around slurs (obviously outside of conversations about them like this one), and the more cases where we find ways to justify and exempt their use, the more emboldened people are to push the envelope about how far they can use them, and the more of a signal we send to people who might be affected by said words that the people in charge of tgstation are willing to tolerate them
Hey, guess what, this works both ways. What I've been seeing here, can also be described as pushing the envelope of what word associations and behavior can be banned and persecuted. There is just never an end to this, once you're done with the obvious words, you go into things like "micro-aggressions" and abstract hints i.e. don't like the black Arielle guess you're a nazi, you just can't stop yourself from fucking it over completely. God bless that MSO appears to see it this way as well, and using his weight to push back on the whole brave-new-world frenzy.
And of course, I do agree with you in principle, let's not be dickheads to everyone. Some people have it tough, and it's a bastard move to go kicking them while they're down. But what you are always pushing for, is having every off-the-cuff remark be put on the golden scale against the face and injustice of every group that could be offended by it, you're turning from well meaning, bright people into overbearing, authoritarian mommies with a giant stick up their asses.
Like, there is this jackass in the other appeal that thought it was clever and funny to refer to him performing a search on his department members as "rape", and it was a single remark. Get's questioned two minutes later "hey, why are you being creepy, huh? Do you like beating women huh?" like jesus, yes it is conceivably immature and stupid, but to paint every fucking slip of the tongue like you're the scum of the earth, abusing women and minorities as a sport, this is just you being an obnoxious, controlling freak.
So if MSO decides that you were going overboard with your 1984 agenda and decides to turn it down a notch, it doesn't mean that he is Hitler and you don't have to go fly off the handle and cry "FUCKING BIGOT!!" at him, OK? Maybe having just a sliver of restraint and modesty will work out much better for you and everyone else in the end!
With sincere regards
-BONERMASTER