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- Itseasytosee2me
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Chief Mommy Officer (Peanut)
- Sincerely itseasytosee
See you later
See you later
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- Vekter
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Re: Chief Mommy Officer (Peanut)
He did, but critting him was a bit over the line for a single joke and if you're gonna warn someone to quit something, you actually have to give them enough time to stop doing it first.
AliasTakuto wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2024 1:11 pm As for the ear replacing stuff, you can ask Anne but I don't think this is what I was banned for. If I was all I can say is "Sorry for being hilarious"...
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Re: Chief Mommy Officer (Peanut)
clowns!
There's a reason there is a title screen of them floating out of an airlock.
There's a reason there is a title screen of them floating out of an airlock.
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Re: Chief Mommy Officer (Peanut)
I do think a 7 day ban is a bit too much for this? I wouldn't call this self antagging, they had a valid reason to start a conflict, even if they immediately escalated to violence. If they didn't have any other notes for improper escalation a ban seems way too extreme
The clown was also a dick it doesn't take more than half a second to shift click on someone and see their pronouns, they might've been purposefully misgendering them which breaks Rule 11 but i have no idea
The clown was also a dick it doesn't take more than half a second to shift click on someone and see their pronouns, they might've been purposefully misgendering them which breaks Rule 11 but i have no idea
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Re: Chief Mommy Officer (Peanut)
This is a certified Vekter moment.
Now really, putting aside the "always kill the clown" meme, I think it's kind of stupid and very failrp to jump into critting the clown basically just for existing. Also the clown just misgendered a character, and did so to make a play on the title "CMO".
Was the banned person playing a character that after one vague misgender warning jumps straight to crit/kill another player? That's pretty shitty, and it's not very different to justifying a kill with "my character is insane" after the most minor inconvenience. Pretty self-antag attitude.
I'd say 1 day... but whoooops! Note history my beloved. Oh how I wish these were fucking public already so we could have a better picture of how much of a repeated offender a player is/isn't. Would be great, right?
Now really, putting aside the "always kill the clown" meme, I think it's kind of stupid and very failrp to jump into critting the clown basically just for existing. Also the clown just misgendered a character, and did so to make a play on the title "CMO".
Was the banned person playing a character that after one vague misgender warning jumps straight to crit/kill another player? That's pretty shitty, and it's not very different to justifying a kill with "my character is insane" after the most minor inconvenience. Pretty self-antag attitude.
I'd say 1 day... but whoooops! Note history my beloved. Oh how I wish these were fucking public already so we could have a better picture of how much of a repeated offender a player is/isn't. Would be great, right?
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Re: Chief Mommy Officer (Peanut)
*gigglesnorts
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Re: Chief Mommy Officer (Peanut)
today on tg: player gets banned for week for not tolerating sexual harassment
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Re: Chief Mommy Officer (Peanut)
vekter you have really been off your game recently
im gay (and also play the moth “bugger”)
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Re: Chief Mommy Officer (Peanut)
I think notes shouldn't be public honestly, it just seems like it would be another source of drama. If we trust our admins enough to ban people, then we should be able to trust them enough to ban people based on their history. If other admins disagree then they can voice their concerns to the headmins who will (hopefully) overturn or reduce the ban.
It keeps getting worse!?
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Re: Chief Mommy Officer (Peanut)
Yeah, it was more of a nudge post so a certain based person came in and made these public.
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Re: Chief Mommy Officer (Peanut)
your bones have gotta be made of jello to actually consider this sexual harassmentCoffeeDragon16 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 2:02 am today on tg: player gets banned for week for not tolerating sexual harassment
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Re: Chief Mommy Officer (Peanut)
You telling me I can get people banned every time they call my statics a guy?TheSmallBlue wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 12:31 am The clown was also a dick it doesn't take more than half a second to shift click on someone and see their pronouns, they might've been purposefully misgendering them which breaks Rule 11 but i have no idea
Assuming malice is never a good idea.
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Re: Chief Mommy Officer (Peanut)
youre just incredibly desensitized to it after seeing it daily heresinfulbliss wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 2:18 am your bones have gotta be made of jello to actually consider this sexual harassment
every time i take a break and come back im shocked at how creepy people are
i will never forget cyan telling me his first round he got what amounts to getting gangbang erped and he just thought it was normal for the server
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Re: Chief Mommy Officer (Peanut)
my brother in christ the clown calling the CMO the Chief Mommy Officer is not sexual harassment if you think it is you are way too sensitiveCoffeeDragon16 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 3:11 amyoure just incredibly desensitized to it after seeing it daily heresinfulbliss wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 2:18 am your bones have gotta be made of jello to actually consider this sexual harassment
every time i take a break and come back im shocked at how creepy people are
i will never forget cyan telling me his first round he got what amounts to getting gangbang erped and he just thought it was normal for the server
it’s licherally the clown
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Re: Chief Mommy Officer (Peanut)
it's sexual harassmentsinfulbliss wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 3:42 ammy brother in christ the clown calling the CMO the Chief Mommy Officer is not sexual harassment if you think it is you are way too sensitiveCoffeeDragon16 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 3:11 amyoure just incredibly desensitized to it after seeing it daily heresinfulbliss wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 2:18 am your bones have gotta be made of jello to actually consider this sexual harassment
every time i take a break and come back im shocked at how creepy people are
i will never forget cyan telling me his first round he got what amounts to getting gangbang erped and he just thought it was normal for the server
it’s licherally the clown
im gay (and also play the moth “bugger”)
- Farquaar
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Re: Chief Mommy Officer (Peanut)
I really don't know what to think. I get more confused with every reply to this peanut I read.
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Re: Chief Mommy Officer (Peanut)
Clowns being lynched for saying dumb shit should be the standard, not the exception
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Re: Chief Mommy Officer (Peanut)
its not sexual harassment, get real
doesnt mean it isnt wierd and annoying
doesnt mean it isnt wierd and annoying
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Re: Chief Mommy Officer (Peanut)
For it to be considered sexual harassment it has to be actual harassment in the first place. Calling someone names in a video game is not harassment
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Re: Chief Mommy Officer (Peanut)
Okay but the issue here is the severity for the first time:
If this was something the clown kept doing it would be fine punishment
If the cmo didn't go so hard for their first beating of would be fine
If the player didn't have a history of self antag the first two points could probably be a warning
All these factors together line up to be "over the line"
At the bare minimum you have to agree to have the clown live long enough to run a joke out at least a little
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Re: Chief Mommy Officer (Peanut)
^ cattle who cannot express his true opinion on a contentious topic
you sicken me
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Re: Chief Mommy Officer (Peanut)
not all sexual harassment is equal
it's still sexual harassment; no one is going "This Guy Is A Sex Offender"
im gay (and also play the moth “bugger”)
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Re: Chief Mommy Officer (Peanut)
My main man, are you saying it’s sexual harassment because they are being misgendered, or because you think “mommy” is an vulgar sexual termiwishforducks wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 5:50 am not all sexual harassment is equal
it's still sexual harassment; no one is going "This Guy Is A Sex Offender"
- Sincerely itseasytosee
See you later
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- Imitates-The-Lizards
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Re: Chief Mommy Officer (Peanut)
Why is everyone in here glossing over Vekter's actual argument? He said the CMO didn't actually give the clown sufficient time to not insult him the second time.
This is more of a failrp and over escalation/over aggression ban than anything to do with the original insults.
This is more of a failrp and over escalation/over aggression ban than anything to do with the original insults.
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Re: Chief Mommy Officer (Peanut)
Freaky comment. I don't think it amounts to sexual harassment but I 100% feel that it's a freakazoid commentsto make and definitely something I personally would beat people up for. Always beat up freaky players.
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Re: Chief Mommy Officer (Peanut)
Also if we're talking about escalation doesn't the conflict end when one party hits crit. The clown continued despite this (unless I'm misunderstanding.) when the conflict was over and the admin still defends him. (Might be wrong) And in terms of "verbal warnings" let's say the clown didn't see the text, isn't it fucking obvious when someone crits you over something that they want you to stop?
Lots of my friends don't want to play this game anymore because of freaky weirdos man. This is sad to watch.
Lots of my friends don't want to play this game anymore because of freaky weirdos man. This is sad to watch.
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- Agux909
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Re: Chief Mommy Officer (Peanut)
Yeah after reading the logs for both individuals it's such a clear cut case. Some details may be missing and I'm not going to intercalate the logs with the events, but for anyone being curious:
https://tgstation13.download/parsed-log ... 2/game.txt
Clown (called "Gonna Stab You In The Leg") was just clowning around and eventually gets to medbay, where he starts some sort of "breakdance competition", which he apparently "wins" for (by his words) 10000 credits as "per breakdancing law", he then gives medbay "his blessing" which has something to do with his canned laughter.
Nobody was being mean to the clown as of yet here, and it's plainly obvious he didn't come to medbay with the intention of "harrassing" anyone. He was just doing clown gimmicks.
CMO (Nyle Black) decides to start punching/kicking the clown when he encounters them and says "Chief Mommy Officer", and before the clown even realizes what the CMO is talking about, he goes into crit. Clown even asks them to stop and why they're doing it, but the CMO doesn't really say anything else after his vague "misgender me 1 more time". Clown at this point never even harmed the CMO and had boxing gloves on, which he was using to box with another doctor.
After getting healed by staff, the clown, understandably, starts malding against the CMO, and when he has the opportunity, stabs them with a drill.They fight again, clown calls security and yells in comms that CMO is killing him, which then happens.
Clown then gets revived, CMO starts yelling that he is a tot and tries to kill him again, which at least 2 medstaff oppose at this point (from here onwards the clown changes the way to adress the CMO, using he/they).
Clown tries to call security, also calls CMO out as a tot, and runs around asking them to stop, to no avail. CMO not only kills the clown again, but also kills those 2 coworkers for defending the clown and opposing their boss (which is very telling of their regard for the CMO as a head of staff), then CMO stuffs the clown's body into their locker and threatens to cremate him. Clown is AGAIN revived later, and this time he leaves medbay as fast as he can, so as to not start shit again.
We're missing the note history but I'm 99% sure Vekter made the right call here.
https://tgstation13.download/parsed-log ... 2/game.txt
Clown (called "Gonna Stab You In The Leg") was just clowning around and eventually gets to medbay, where he starts some sort of "breakdance competition", which he apparently "wins" for (by his words) 10000 credits as "per breakdancing law", he then gives medbay "his blessing" which has something to do with his canned laughter.
Nobody was being mean to the clown as of yet here, and it's plainly obvious he didn't come to medbay with the intention of "harrassing" anyone. He was just doing clown gimmicks.
CMO (Nyle Black) decides to start punching/kicking the clown when he encounters them and says "Chief Mommy Officer", and before the clown even realizes what the CMO is talking about, he goes into crit. Clown even asks them to stop and why they're doing it, but the CMO doesn't really say anything else after his vague "misgender me 1 more time". Clown at this point never even harmed the CMO and had boxing gloves on, which he was using to box with another doctor.
After getting healed by staff, the clown, understandably, starts malding against the CMO, and when he has the opportunity, stabs them with a drill.They fight again, clown calls security and yells in comms that CMO is killing him, which then happens.
Clown then gets revived, CMO starts yelling that he is a tot and tries to kill him again, which at least 2 medstaff oppose at this point (from here onwards the clown changes the way to adress the CMO, using he/they).
Clown tries to call security, also calls CMO out as a tot, and runs around asking them to stop, to no avail. CMO not only kills the clown again, but also kills those 2 coworkers for defending the clown and opposing their boss (which is very telling of their regard for the CMO as a head of staff), then CMO stuffs the clown's body into their locker and threatens to cremate him. Clown is AGAIN revived later, and this time he leaves medbay as fast as he can, so as to not start shit again.
We're missing the note history but I'm 99% sure Vekter made the right call here.
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Re: Chief Mommy Officer (Peanut)
I understand. Just be less like this guy, please.
Also fucking hell crag, posting like 1 second before I edit it.
Also fucking hell crag, posting like 1 second before I edit it.
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Re: Chief Mommy Officer (Peanut)
Although restarting conflict was wrong on the clown's part the initial fight was an Escalation Failure moment on behalf of the CMO
calling someone mommy should get you slapped but not into crit though dont be fuckin weird online
calling someone mommy should get you slapped but not into crit though dont be fuckin weird online
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Re: Chief Mommy Officer (Peanut)
The clown take:
If the person who said it was any other job, this would be a valid ban
But because it's the clown, who is actively clowning, it's based. If the clown ahelps afterwards, it's basically banbait but I don't think I'd apply a banbaiting ban. You just gotta learn that playing clown puts you in a position where you're able to say "Chief Mommy Officer" and then get beaten into the floor tiles for it, WHICH IS GREAT! All clowns should be cracking champagne irl if they're getting critted over a single line
If the person who said it was any other job, this would be a valid ban
But because it's the clown, who is actively clowning, it's based. If the clown ahelps afterwards, it's basically banbait but I don't think I'd apply a banbaiting ban. You just gotta learn that playing clown puts you in a position where you're able to say "Chief Mommy Officer" and then get beaten into the floor tiles for it, WHICH IS GREAT! All clowns should be cracking champagne irl if they're getting critted over a single line
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Re: Chief Mommy Officer (Peanut)
I think be critted for freaky comments is pretty normal, in my eyes at least.Omega_DarkPotato wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 3:37 pm Although restarting conflict was wrong on the clown's part the initial fight was an Escalation Failure moment on behalf of the CMO
calling someone mommy should get you slapped but not into crit though dont be fuckin weird online
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Re: Chief Mommy Officer (Peanut)
A rare case where I agree with both Sinful and Toemas at the same time.sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 2:18 amyour bones have gotta be made of jello to actually consider this sexual harassmentCoffeeDragon16 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 2:02 am today on tg: player gets banned for week for not tolerating sexual harassment
But yeah Gungnir makes a good point.
"Don't attribute to malice what you can easier attribute to stupidity"... is a quote or something.
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Re: Chief Mommy Officer (Peanut)
He's been banned or noted six times since October 1st for self-antagging.
This is absolutely one of those situations where it's like "Normally I'd just note you for this but you keep fucking doing it so obviously notes aren't getting the message across".
AliasTakuto wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2024 1:11 pm As for the ear replacing stuff, you can ask Anne but I don't think this is what I was banned for. If I was all I can say is "Sorry for being hilarious"...
Omega_DarkPotato wrote:This sucks, dude.
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Re: Chief Mommy Officer (Peanut)
Retarded digg clown owned
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Re: Chief Mommy Officer (Peanut)
It's called Hanlon's RazorCMDR_Gungnir wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 8:39 pmBingo.
AliasTakuto wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2024 1:11 pm As for the ear replacing stuff, you can ask Anne but I don't think this is what I was banned for. If I was all I can say is "Sorry for being hilarious"...
Omega_DarkPotato wrote:This sucks, dude.
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Re: Chief Mommy Officer (Peanut)
I did not, in fact, know the name for it, thank you!
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Re: Chief Mommy Officer (Peanut)
Did the clown deserve it? Yeah, probably.Vekter wrote: He's been banned or noted six times since October 1st for self-antagging.
This is absolutely one of those situations where it's like "Normally I'd just note you for this but you keep fucking doing it so obviously notes aren't getting the message across".
But!
You do, in fact, have to actually wait to see if they follow a "don't do that" warning before you turn them into banana smoothie pulp. And if you have six notes for self-antag in the past 80 days, meaning an average of one note every 2 weeks, it looks an awful lot like you maybe don't have that much of a problem with the clown as much as you were looking for any excuse to get in a fight.
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Re: Chief Mommy Officer (Peanut)
the clown was literally in medical get over it, soft critting really isnt that bad
im gay (and also play the moth “bugger”)
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Re: Chief Mommy Officer (Peanut)
The point just took off from Point Airport.iwishforducks wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 7:56 am the clown was literally in medical get over it, soft critting really isnt that bad
It was at least 8 kilometers over your head.
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Re: Chief Mommy Officer (Peanut)
Overall… Overall. Both parties were at fault. The clown was at fault for ahelping this in the first place, clowns should be EXPECTING to get crit over risky jokes and wear it as a medal. The CMO was at fault for going straight to softcrit I suppose, buuuut…
The CMO probably shouldn’t have gotten a ban for softcritting someone calling them chief mommy officer. I think that makes you close to valid. Sure they could’ve handled it better but probably no admin action was needed.
The CMO probably shouldn’t have gotten a ban for softcritting someone calling them chief mommy officer. I think that makes you close to valid. Sure they could’ve handled it better but probably no admin action was needed.
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Re: Chief Mommy Officer (Peanut)
Seesinfulbliss wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 12:16 am Overall… Overall. Both parties were at fault. The clown was at fault for ahelping this in the first place, clowns should be EXPECTING to get crit over risky jokes and wear it as a medal. The CMO was at fault for going straight to softcrit I suppose, buuuut…
The CMO probably shouldn’t have gotten a ban for softcritting someone calling them chief mommy officer. I think that makes you close to valid. Sure they could’ve handled it better but probably no admin action was needed.
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Fri Jan 27, 2023 12:41 am From my perspective, players just want to genuinely be listened to. And I don't mean it condescendingly, but to genuinely have their say and for admins to listen, process it and reply. Even if you don't give two shits about what the player is saying, even if you disagree with every part of what they say, players are less likely to leave an ahelp pissed off if you've listened to them and given a reply that directly addresses what they've told you.
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