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Yeah, no shit. Why would I comment when the admin is right? What more is there to say when the admin isn't wrong? That's like saying "I've only seen you mow the lawn when the lawn is grown" or "I've only seen you clean your car when it's dirty".
I didn't at first, when I thought it was his genuine opinion, but now that I know it's just lazy trolling, I've reconsidered.
I was left speechless. You're actually arguing that people should be banned for THINKING something that you disagree with. This is straight out of 1984, without exaggeration.
sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 2:03 am Marina is actually a very high quality roleplayer, believe it or not, and a pretty fun and good-faith player in my experience.
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 8:50 am No deviations allowed. All must know the meta. All must power the game.
joooks wrote:Quoting a legend, at least im not a faggot lolNaloac wrote:
In short, this appeal is denied. Suck my nuts retard.
See you in 12 months unless you blacklist me for this
Timberpoes wrote: ↑ I'm going to admin timonk [...]. Fuck it, he's also now my second host vote if goof rejects.
pikeyeskey13 wrote: ↑ ok don't forget to shove it up your ass lmao oops u can delete this one I just wanted to make sure it went through
Agux909 wrote:Woah bravo there sir, post of the month you saved the thread. I feel overwhelmed by the echo of unlimited wisdom and usefulness sprouting from you post. Every Manuel player now feels embarrased to exist because of your much NEEDED wise words, you sure teached'em all, you genius, IQ lord.Timonk wrote:This is why we make fun of Manuel
There's plenty of people who comment on a peanut saying that the admin did the right thing.
But why does it matter if he's being ironic? Can you tell whether or not he is, or is are you just going to take him at face value when he says "I'm joking"? Based on your logic, anyone can say anything inflammatory as long as they say it was a joke afterwards.
This isn't America and we aren't the government. You don't have a right to free speech here. We can remove you if you're breaking the rules or Discord TOS.
AliasTakuto wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2024 1:11 pm As for the ear replacing stuff, you can ask Anne but I don't think this is what I was banned for. If I was all I can say is "Sorry for being hilarious"...
Omega_DarkPotato wrote:This sucks, dude.
Lower your tone with me if your tracked play time doesn't look like this:Timonk wrote:You have clearly never seen his dickWesoda25 wrote:Genuinely think they should be blacklisted.
Flatulent wrote:of course you can change religion doing it while islamic however makes you lose your head from happiness
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Armhulen wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2023 11:08 pmThe Spessmen Times wrote:Prohibition agent Sam Salamander bragged that he could find a metacord in any server in under 30 minutes. In Bagil it took him 21 minutes. In Sybil 17 minutes, and Manuel just 11 minutes. But Terry set the record of 35 seconds. Sam asked an assistant on the arrivals shuttle where to get a discord invite, and the assistant linked him one.
RedBaronFlyer wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:52 pmIt would somehow manage to pick Birdshot Station for headmin if we did that
No offense vekter, but judging from your forum history you seem like a number 1 expert on bigotry but number 1 person to get offended. Don't think you are physically able to give any constructive criticismVekter wrote: ↑Sat Feb 11, 2023 6:19 am >Be in a Discord server that has a rule that actively bans bigotry of any form
>Say you agree with a literal Nazi and make a Holocaust joke when you get called out on it
>Get upset when you're banned for it
I don't know what to tell ya, bud. Go be shitty somewhere else.
Go back to digg, pal. You'll fit in right there.
This argument doesn't have a play in here. Discord jannies don't care about servers unless:
Also to clear up some confusion: i'm not a troll. I wasn't saying it with intention of trolling. I said some offensive stuff and I fully take the blame and apologize for it (some people don't read the appeal fully for some reason). One thing I don't agree with is that a permanent ban is too harsh. If it was a week or a month even, I wouldn't care and would just wait it out, after all bans aren't for restricting someone from using the server (temporary ones) but for someone to acknowledge their mistake and learn from it.
If the "opinion" is Nazi holocaust denial shit, then yes. Nazis can f right off.ekaterina wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2023 12:33 amYeah, no shit. Why would I comment when the admin is right? What more is there to say when the admin isn't wrong? That's like saying "I've only seen you mow the lawn when the lawn is grown" or "I've only seen you clean your car when it's dirty".
I didn't at first, when I thought it was his genuine opinion, but now that I know it's just lazy trolling, I've reconsidered.
I was left speechless. You're actually arguing that people should be banned for THINKING something that you disagree with. This is straight out of 1984, without exaggeration.
To be absolutely clear, I don't agree with the guy who got banned, but I stand up for his right to state his genuine opinion, as dumb as it might be. It doesn't seem like that (being a genuine opinion) was the case, however.
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 14, 2023 3:21 pm The rules exist to create the biggest possible chance of a cool shift of SS13. They don't exist to allow admins to create the most boring interpretation of SS13.
Why? You will suddenly not be a nazi next week?jastindeep wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2023 7:43 am Also to clear up some confusion: i'm not a troll. I wasn't saying it with intention of trolling. I said some offensive stuff and I fully take the blame and apologize for it (some people don't read the appeal fully for some reason). One thing I don't agree with is that a permanent ban is too harsh. If it was a week or a month even, I wouldn't care and would just wait it out, after all bans aren't for restricting someone from using the server (temporary ones) but for someone to acknowledge their mistake and learn from it.
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 14, 2023 3:21 pm The rules exist to create the biggest possible chance of a cool shift of SS13. They don't exist to allow admins to create the most boring interpretation of SS13.
Ekaterina needs to learn the difference between freedom of speech and freedom of consequence.
Armhulen wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2023 11:08 pmThe Spessmen Times wrote:Prohibition agent Sam Salamander bragged that he could find a metacord in any server in under 30 minutes. In Bagil it took him 21 minutes. In Sybil 17 minutes, and Manuel just 11 minutes. But Terry set the record of 35 seconds. Sam asked an assistant on the arrivals shuttle where to get a discord invite, and the assistant linked him one.
RedBaronFlyer wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:52 pmIt would somehow manage to pick Birdshot Station for headmin if we did that
You got it backwards. Anyone should be able to say anything inflammatory as long as they actually believe in it, meaning it is not a joke.Vekter wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2023 4:34 amBut why does it matter if he's being ironic? Can you tell whether or not he is, or is are you just going to take him at face value when he says "I'm joking"? Based on your logic, anyone can say anything inflammatory as long as they say it was a joke afterwards.
You're stating what is. I'm arguing what should be.
By this logic, you are free to commit murder (you aren't), just not free from the consequences.
sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 2:03 am Marina is actually a very high quality roleplayer, believe it or not, and a pretty fun and good-faith player in my experience.
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 8:50 am No deviations allowed. All must know the meta. All must power the game.
It's not about this or that "logic", it's about definition. There's no interpretation, there is how the facts work.ekaterina wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2023 10:21 amBy this logic, you are free to commit murder (you aren't), just not free from the consequences.
To have a freedom to do something, that freedom has to be unqualified, otherwise you don't actually have that freedom.
This entire argument comes from a failure to recognise what a freedom or right actually is.
Armhulen wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2023 11:08 pmThe Spessmen Times wrote:Prohibition agent Sam Salamander bragged that he could find a metacord in any server in under 30 minutes. In Bagil it took him 21 minutes. In Sybil 17 minutes, and Manuel just 11 minutes. But Terry set the record of 35 seconds. Sam asked an assistant on the arrivals shuttle where to get a discord invite, and the assistant linked him one.
RedBaronFlyer wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:52 pmIt would somehow manage to pick Birdshot Station for headmin if we did that
the nazis killed people for idealogical reasons which is wrong. Corporations kill people because it makes them more money, which is ok.Annihilite111 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2023 12:54 pm I will never understand the visceral emotional reaction some people have to fringe nazis while unchecked corporatism ruins the world. Barking up the wrong tree
"Mad because we're destroying civilisation? Here have the rotting corpse of a WW2 ideology to beat while we continue"Super Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2023 2:34 pm the nazis killed people for idealogical reasons which is wrong. Corporations kill people because it makes them more money, which is ok.
Maybe just maybe we are stating the obviously horrible nature of nazism because we got a ban for someone saying anti-Semitic shit ?Annihilite111 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2023 2:48 pm"Mad because we're destroying civilisation? Here have the rotting corpse of a WW2 ideology to beat while we continue"Super Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2023 2:34 pm the nazis killed people for idealogical reasons which is wrong. Corporations kill people because it makes them more money, which is ok.
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 14, 2023 3:21 pm The rules exist to create the biggest possible chance of a cool shift of SS13. They don't exist to allow admins to create the most boring interpretation of SS13.
CPTANT wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2023 2:56 pmMaybe just maybe we are stating the obviously horrible nature of nazism because we got a ban for someone saying anti-Semitic shit ?Annihilite111 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2023 2:48 pm"Mad because we're destroying civilisation? Here have the rotting corpse of a WW2 ideology to beat while we continue"Super Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2023 2:34 pm the nazis killed people for idealogical reasons which is wrong. Corporations kill people because it makes them more money, which is ok.
Next time someone goes loudly proclaiming "yar yar burn all the coal, fuck the environment, exploit the workers" you can rave about how bad that is.
Nwabudike Morgan wrote:Resources exist to be consumed. And consumed they will be, if not by this generation then by some future. By what right does this forgotten future seek to deny us our birthright? None I say! Let us take what is ours, chew and eat our fill.
Crochet is fucking dope. Nobody better hate on crochet.
Armhulen wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2023 11:08 pmThe Spessmen Times wrote:Prohibition agent Sam Salamander bragged that he could find a metacord in any server in under 30 minutes. In Bagil it took him 21 minutes. In Sybil 17 minutes, and Manuel just 11 minutes. But Terry set the record of 35 seconds. Sam asked an assistant on the arrivals shuttle where to get a discord invite, and the assistant linked him one.
RedBaronFlyer wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:52 pmIt would somehow manage to pick Birdshot Station for headmin if we did that
And I'm arguing that, if you truly believe that, this isn't the place for you. Just like in real life, there are consequences for what you say here and it's going to stay that way. Bigots are no longer welcome here.
AliasTakuto wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2024 1:11 pm As for the ear replacing stuff, you can ask Anne but I don't think this is what I was banned for. If I was all I can say is "Sorry for being hilarious"...
Omega_DarkPotato wrote:This sucks, dude.
All HOS players are Bastards
cobby is a smart guyCobby wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2023 6:47 pm There's nothing wrong with saying edgy stuff with private people that share your dark humor.
The problem comes in when you say it with people you dont know on a platform that takes that stuff extremely seriously regardless if you meant to just do it for a poor joke/attention/etc.
There is no point in arguing what it SHOULD be because, again, even if every pony on tg agreed that edgy comments like that are perfectly acceptable, it would still be grounds for removal from discord as a whole. Save your whiskey and cigars for an actually interesting parlor talk.
This wasn't edgy dark humour, he said he wasn't trolling. Dude is just actually a holocaust denying AntisemiteCobby wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2023 6:47 pm There's nothing wrong with saying edgy stuff with private people that share your dark humor.
The problem comes in when you say it with people you dont know on a platform that takes that stuff extremely seriously regardless if you meant to just do it for a poor joke/attention/etc.
There is no point in arguing what it SHOULD be because, again, even if every pony on tg agreed that edgy comments like that are perfectly acceptable, it would still be grounds for removal from discord as a whole. Save your whiskey and cigars for an actually interesting parlor talk.
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 14, 2023 3:21 pm The rules exist to create the biggest possible chance of a cool shift of SS13. They don't exist to allow admins to create the most boring interpretation of SS13.
the difference is the admin team isnt just a car or a lawn, they are real people who volunteer to keep the servers from turning into NRP chaos. As much as I think Vektar trolls and doesnt even play the game and this and that, i know that over half of his unironic deniers wouldnt get off their ass (metaphorically) to handle a ticket or restart the server in the middle of the night or whatever inconvenient time it would be for them.
to the fbi agent reading this, I AM a threat to society and I AM going to cause mischief in this thread moving forward.CPTANT wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2023 7:11 pmThis wasn't edgy dark humour, he said he wasn't trolling. Dude is just actually a holocaust denying AntisemiteCobby wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2023 6:47 pm There's nothing wrong with saying edgy stuff with private people that share your dark humor.
The problem comes in when you say it with people you dont know on a platform that takes that stuff extremely seriously regardless if you meant to just do it for a poor joke/attention/etc.
There is no point in arguing what it SHOULD be because, again, even if every pony on tg agreed that edgy comments like that are perfectly acceptable, it would still be grounds for removal from discord as a whole. Save your whiskey and cigars for an actually interesting parlor talk.
This isn't the place to have political debates because you cannot speak freely. It has no bearing on anything else.
Yet another shitpost from Qbmax. "Only trolls defend free speech".
sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 2:03 am Marina is actually a very high quality roleplayer, believe it or not, and a pretty fun and good-faith player in my experience.
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 8:50 am No deviations allowed. All must know the meta. All must power the game.
my freeze peach to incite the third reich is being taken awayekaterina wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2023 7:26 pmThis isn't the place to have political debates because you cannot speak freely. It has no bearing on anything else.
Tell me, while typing "if you truly believe [in free speech], this isn't the place for you", did you ever consider "are we the baddies?"
Yes, some random kid on Discord was going to overthrow governments and start wars. Definitely.iwishforducks wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2023 7:28 pm my freeze peach to incite the third reich is being taken away
sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 2:03 am Marina is actually a very high quality roleplayer, believe it or not, and a pretty fun and good-faith player in my experience.
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 8:50 am No deviations allowed. All must know the meta. All must power the game.
you know when they actually tried to incite the third reich they got shot for it and then they paraded around a nazi flag soaked in blood from the Sturmabteilung dude who was carrying it and they turned it into a relic and then the actually took over the governmentiwishforducks wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2023 7:28 pmmy freeze peach to incite the third reich is being taken awayekaterina wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2023 7:26 pmThis isn't the place to have political debates because you cannot speak freely. It has no bearing on anything else.
Tell me, while typing "if you truly believe [in free speech], this isn't the place for you", did you ever consider "are we the baddies?"
play opus: echo of starsongSuper Aggro Crag wrote:This is what u get when u let people into your community
Its not a shitpost. I sincerely hope you get the help you very obviously need.
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