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viewtopic.php?f=23&t=33471Can't wait to see the actual ahelp messages
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viewtopic.php?f=23&t=33471you were being overwhelmed with adminwork so instead ofItseasytosee2me wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 12:22 am
You are absolutely right my friend, I could have just said "no" before rejecting the ticket, and perhaps in a situation in which I wasn't handling other ahelps as well (one other of which was a antag trade request was a similarly incoherent request to be revived as an antag, rejected in the same fashion), as well as completing a ban from a previous round, I would have given the ticket more of my attention.
I could have, or I could have ignored it and he probably would have just went on with his round. But instead I did an equally valid action, which is press the reject button on the ahelp.
When he ahelps AGAIN, he clearly didn't get the message, and similarly babbles about wanting of be a traitor. We can see now pretty clearly, that this individual has no interest in playing heretic, and yet has it enabled and is trying to use it as a bartering token with me to get an antag he wants. Rejecting the ticket didn't work the first time, so I zap him a bit (a cool ~60 points of damage if I recall) he is right outside of medbay, this has not significantly impacted his round and was meant to be a humorous way of telling him: No, and don't ask again.
I'm not angry, I just look that way because I am being direct and honest - like oranges, but less mean.
Rectification's post here gives us more insight into his thought process. He issued the note for OOC in IC, yet 75% of the note talks about the player ahelping. The first impression we get from this is that the note is because he ahelped about the trade repeatedly (which he was in the right to do because he didn't even get a simple "no" in reply).Itseasytosee2me wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:04 pm Because this is in reference to my admin complaint, the note was placed after the player had ic occed and disconnected from the game. I had no option to talk to him about his behavior before applying the note. If the player had appealed the note before or instead of making a complaint, I would have been happy to edit it to better reflect his interpretation of events, but I was never given that option.
Before that moment, the player had not breaking any rules, was not at risk for a note, and did not require a conversation. I accept the fact that my actions led to the complaint, and if I had taken the situation in a more couth method I would have avoided the complaint, regardless, I think the complaint is still invalid and unlikely to be upheld.
sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 2:03 am Marina is actually a very high quality roleplayer, believe it or not, and a pretty fun and good-faith player in my experience.
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 8:50 am No deviations allowed. All must know the meta. All must power the game.
You aren't wrong, and don't think I'm not taking this lesson to heart. However, my actions were not motivated by pettiness, I did the first smite because I thought It would be a funny and explicit way of saying "No." The second one was really meant to drive home the message of "No," along with the Ahelp mute, and I was content to leave it at that. I felt obligated to leave a note on the players record after they complained in IC to let other admins know that they have already fucked around and found out in ahelps, and then subsequently complained about it, in case it is relevant in the future for any issues. I don't hold any personal vendetta, but this player has gotten into quite a bit of trouble before.TheLoLSwat wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:32 pm you were being overwhelmed with adminwork so instead of
- saying "no" and muting from ahelps
- saying "no, dont ask again" and then crit smiting if he asks again
- i dunno probably a bunch of other ways to effectively communicate with the player and also saving your time
you put the player through one of the most confusing experiences out of sheer pettiness (because lets be real, you werent doing this to be efficient or save time). With all that being said, I still understand and can follow you as the player shouldnt have ahelped to trade again. The part where you lose me for good is where you smite him for having an actual legit ahelp (even if its due to his own mistakes getting him smited). The player lost his heretic hud for a bit and probably thought he caught a win for once. Was it really too much to mute him from ahelps at this point (if you didnt believe it was legit) or say something like "No tc trades" and then mute from ahelps?
oh and we didnt even get to leaving a note on the PLAYER for just going "damn admin aboosd me" before dying lol it just gets pettier
kieth4 wrote: infrequently shitting yourself is fine imo
There is a lot of very bizarre nonsense being talked on this forum. I shall now remain silent and logoff until my points are vindicated.
Player who complainted over being killed for looting cap office wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2023 1:33 am Hey there, I'm Virescent, the super evil person who made the stupid appeal and didn't think it through enough. Just came here to say: screech, retards. Screech and writhe like the worms you are. Your pathetic little cries will keep echoing around for a while before quietting down. There is one great outcome from this: I rised up the blood pressure of some of you shitheads and lowered your lifespan. I'm honestly tempted to do this more often just to see you screech and writhe more, but that wouldn't be cool of me. So come on haters, show me some more of your high blood pressure please.
Not only is a massive REJECTED message usually considered "no" (which seems to have even been received as such considering the player immediately started asking for something else instead), but a TC trade doesn't inherently deserve any kind of response. If you have an actual issue that is silently rejected then that's an issue, but a TC trade is asking an admin to do something that they have no obligation to do. They especially have no obligation to humor you if your TC trade sums up to "WIZWIZWIZWIZWI". We even have an issue with players rolling heretic solely to trade it away for something else because they don't want to play heretic.
thehogshotgun wrote:How does having jannies like you, who have more brain tumor than brain benefit the server
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 14, 2023 3:21 pm The rules exist to create the biggest possible chance of a cool shift of SS13. They don't exist to allow admins to create the most boring interpretation of SS13.
I tried this and came to the conclusion that it universally just did not work, even in conjunction with the Reject button. In my experience, if you want to get them to take the message, literally just telling them No is what works. If they asked why I always told them I have other tickets and this is just not where my effort is needed right now (even if it is a lie).Itseasytosee2me wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:08 pmHowever, my actions were not motivated by pettiness, I did the first smite because I thought It would be a funny and explicit way of saying "No." The second one was really meant to drive home the message of "No," along with the Ahelp mute, and I was content to leave it at that.
the real answerKendrickorium wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 1:49 am I think the main issue here is that the appealer is 12 years of age
it's so blatant it's a bit sad we allow it. if he can't fill out an appeal any better than he fills out his english homework how the fuck can anyone expect to roleplay with himKendrickorium wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 1:49 am I think the main issue here is that the appealer is 12 years of age
"mins later got shocked, i asked ahelp "can i have a reason for the antg trade? also shock is uncool, "Armhulen wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2023 8:50 pmit's so blatant it's a bit sad we allow it. if he can't fill out an appeal any better than he fills out his english homework how the fuck can anyone expect to roleplay with himKendrickorium wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 1:49 am I think the main issue here is that the appealer is 12 years of age
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