sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Thu Mar 30, 2023 7:54 am
In the majority of cases sec deserves to have their arrests interrupted. Admins more than anyone should be well aware of what sort of players LRP sec attracts. For those uninitiated I can share a few anecdotes. Yesterday on Sybil I was cuffed and thrown into a pit of lava for nonlethally evading an invalid arrest. A couple days before that on Terry the HoS attempted to arrest me because he believed being burned naked at a stake the chaplain set up was not torture enough for the theft of his hat. A couple weeks before that the captain sent me and another fellow to a 1000 point gulag sentence for slipping him a single time outside the brig. A few weeks before this I was kneecapped for clicking the rest button while being dragged to brig for the crime of welding a wall to tech storage.
I can understand your frustration, but what you're describing is extremely circular reasoning. What you're describing is on the officer, which is exactly why there should be accountability for the officer. Why are you arguing that there shouldn't be a policy stopping sec from acting like megalomaniacs? It-it-what-it-is doesn't solve the issues here. In those cases the appropriate action is ahelping. Being round removed for something like that, 1000 point gulag, kneecapping is excessive escalation.
There's a reason sec officers have been queuing up in the ban appeals. This is the reason you're describing.
Etch it in stone that sec needs to chill the fuck out.
I don't believe every case requires you to talk it out before you give them the business end of your sec gear, but if you have the gal to baton someone wordlessly, then you should be well aware that there is some form of retaliation to come.
I've seen and tried both sec styles, and the one that has the least headache involves using your words at some point in the interaction.
Something as much as putting someone in cuffs and then saying "You're being arrested for stealing the fireaxe", or the appeal to the edgier Sybil Sec officers, just pointing to the contraband can be enough in some situations.
If I'm a traitor, and haven't done anything violent only to be stun batoned, stripped, and killed, I'm going to be infinitely more pissed than if they are to baton me, point at the fingerprint scanner, and then point at whatever blatant traitor gear I have. At least then I know their train of thought.
I remember reading a complaint a while back all stemming from this issue of silent sec. Establishing that if you're not going to say a word, you're going to be seen as a griefer clears up a lot of the issues brought up here.
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