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So...that happened.
probably a debate about the N word or somethingCapsandi wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 4:03 am^has no idea what goes on in adminbussinfulbliss wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 3:59 am What’s my… “Proposed remedy” to an offhand unrealized threat to breach conduct? Uhhh. Maybe like a temporary mute or ban from Discord? Definitely not DEADMINNED + SERVER BANNED + SCRUBBED FROM THE FACE OF THE EARTH + L + RATIO.
"Broo just temp mute for an imminent possible adminbus leak bro"
glad 2 have u back sinful
Lower your tone with me if your tracked play time doesn't look like this:Timonk wrote:You have clearly never seen his dickWesoda25 wrote:Genuinely think they should be blacklisted.
Flatulent wrote:of course you can change religion doing it while islamic however makes you lose your head from happiness
MSO showed up at the big balls competition and then noticed his opponent was Vektersinfulbliss wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 4:12 amprobably a debate about the N word or somethingCapsandi wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 4:03 am^has no idea what goes on in adminbussinfulbliss wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 3:59 am What’s my… “Proposed remedy” to an offhand unrealized threat to breach conduct? Uhhh. Maybe like a temporary mute or ban from Discord? Definitely not DEADMINNED + SERVER BANNED + SCRUBBED FROM THE FACE OF THE EARTH + L + RATIO.
"Broo just temp mute for an imminent possible adminbus leak bro"
glad 2 have u back sinful
doesn’t really matter… i’m sure it’s just both sides got heated and overreacted and now here we are
I try to grab them if I am on but urgent ahelps tend to be the most unenjoyable part of being an admin. Most urgent ahelps aren't the type of thing to solve real quickly and move on, so it can easily devolve into having to sit there for extended periods of time. And there's the tendency for more tickets to pop up that you then need to deal with alone, or even deal with ones that have just been sitting there. If you are adminning a server when a ticket pops up you can't really dodge it, but if you see an urgent ahelp you can just not show up to deal with it entirely devoid of guilt. And with how awful some urgent tickets can be, it's really fucking tempting.sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 3:43 am …and just like that, 50% of all future urgent ahelps have been sent into the abyss.
thehogshotgun wrote:How does having jannies like you, who have more brain tumor than brain benefit the server
This all happened suspeciously after this admin mute, so my game theory is:I can't divulge direct details without actually leaking adminbus logs, but MSO muted another admin over something I felt was unacceptable
im sorry, but you know too much
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 9:16 pm I highly doubt any other admin on the team would have given you this chance, except maybe Kieth because his brain worms are almost as bad as mine.
Vekter wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 4:45 pm At what point does someone's refusal or failure to improve become malice in and of itself? If you give someone a year to stop shitting on the carpet and they keep doing it but get slightly closer to the bathroom every time and sometimes they get to the toilet before it happens, at what point does it become acceptable to just ask them to go shit in someone else's house?
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 7:00 pm I'm sorry, can we get a real player to resolve this appeal? I don't like this trial player. They can't even set their own name.
sinfulbliss wrote: ↑I almost prefer Rave's AI-generated "We cannot accept this appeal at this time. If you would like assistance appealing in the future, please dial 1-800-1984-1488."
Pandarsenic wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:25 pm I think we can all agree that someone throwing a reverse revolver at Zyb as a secret test of character, and Zyb immediately fucking himself with it, is the best thing we all could have received for Christmas this year
ausops wrote:apart from this there is literally nothing more to say other than that this is the first thread in five years to have achieved something.
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 9:16 pm I highly doubt any other admin on the team would have given you this chance, except maybe Kieth because his brain worms are almost as bad as mine.
Vekter wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 4:45 pm At what point does someone's refusal or failure to improve become malice in and of itself? If you give someone a year to stop shitting on the carpet and they keep doing it but get slightly closer to the bathroom every time and sometimes they get to the toilet before it happens, at what point does it become acceptable to just ask them to go shit in someone else's house?
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 7:00 pm I'm sorry, can we get a real player to resolve this appeal? I don't like this trial player. They can't even set their own name.
sinfulbliss wrote: ↑I almost prefer Rave's AI-generated "We cannot accept this appeal at this time. If you would like assistance appealing in the future, please dial 1-800-1984-1488."
Pandarsenic wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:25 pm I think we can all agree that someone throwing a reverse revolver at Zyb as a secret test of character, and Zyb immediately fucking himself with it, is the best thing we all could have received for Christmas this year
it'll all blow over tomorrowdatorangebottle wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 7:05 am in a more serious light:
i dislike some of vekter's decisions but i feel like this is a massive overreaction.
So true, see you in the Krusty Krab son
joooks wrote:Quoting a legend, at least im not a faggot lolNaloac wrote:
In short, this appeal is denied. Suck my nuts retard.
See you in 12 months unless you blacklist me for this
Timberpoes wrote: ↑ I'm going to admin timonk [...]. Fuck it, he's also now my second host vote if goof rejects.
pikeyeskey13 wrote: ↑ ok don't forget to shove it up your ass lmao oops u can delete this one I just wanted to make sure it went through
Agux909 wrote:Woah bravo there sir, post of the month you saved the thread. I feel overwhelmed by the echo of unlimited wisdom and usefulness sprouting from you post. Every Manuel player now feels embarrased to exist because of your much NEEDED wise words, you sure teached'em all, you genius, IQ lord.Timonk wrote:This is why we make fun of Manuel
sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 2:03 am Marina is actually a very high quality roleplayer, believe it or not, and a pretty fun and good-faith player in my experience.
Jacquerel wrote: ↑Tue Jul 09, 2024 6:31 pmmight be more true to say they redirect the dogpile most of the time tbqh, like diving heroically onto a grenadekinnebian wrote: ↑Tue Jul 09, 2024 6:13 pm ekaterina stops threads from becoming dogpiles (...) they just point out logical things to bring up in context of a ban and people get mad at them because they refuse to discuss it
when everyone goes into peanuts already set on what their opinion is ekat's posts are a breath of fresh air
MrStonedOne wrote: ↑ Im gonna have to quote Ekaterina at you because they ended up saying this better than i would have
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 8:50 am No deviations allowed. All must know the meta. All must power the game.
BeeSting12 wrote: ↑ Kieth4 nonoptimal ranked play nearly results in team loss, facing disciplinary action
TBF mso, I'm pretty sure the implication, or a message he didnt have time to post, was "Stop abusing privileges of host for reasons that really didn't warrant that", and not "Calm down or Ill leak bus". At least thats the way I read it, and looking that way, its sorta logical in a twisted way. As a host there is no higher person to call on, except the people who donate.MrStonedOne wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 10:45 am The implication was that i was to either calm down, or, they would leak adminbus, which is, like, the worse way to try and get somebody to calm down.
Sorry Vekter but MSO has sent out a PM to everyone declaring your depersoning. You don't exist, and never have. All evidence of your presence will be edited or removed using advanced machine learning programs, and you will never again be talked with or about by anyone in or outside of teegee station and its affiliated platforms. Just by making this post i am nearly guaranteed a blacklist by our dread Stoner overlord (may His supreme fury cleanse this world of all that opposes His vision). I am sorry...
mso already intimated he plans reduce it to a temp banNecromancerAnne wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 12:56 pm Based on how this situation plays out, I'd advice remaining admins consider this situation carefully and whether your efforts are valued in this community when Vekter, who has one of the highest coverages of anyone, is excommunicated on a single emotional flare up. Not so much that a punishment was placed, but to the level it was placed.
Can there be disagreements even in a professional sense if MSO will just shove you out on a whim? What about what happened to Fikou, how did that come about?
Even if this is resolved peacefully, you shouldn't sit comfortable as you are. You're a lot of very talented and dedicated people. Remember that you're all valuable to the continued and smooth operation of this game we enjoy together, and the structures that exist is from the combined history and experiences of the team before, and passing on of procedure and knowledge to the next generation of administrators. That's why the team is one of the most effective in the SS13 as a whole. Your absence will be felt.
I think the issue is less how it is going to be resolved, but how this came to be in the first place. Any pretty severe incident like this should be a learning opportunity and a chance for maybe changing things to make sure that the process is impartial and fair. It's how you foster a healthy community of trust.sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 1:05 pm mso already intimated he plans reduce it to a temp ban
ain’t that big a deal. would be cool for it to be declassified though for transparency reasons (viz: continued peanuting)
So if an admin were to get banned (say 1 day for an invalid kill) they can just play anyways? Or would an admin ban be applied in that situation? If its a regular ban is it applied with an expectation of good faith that the admin wouldn't play and would only join to handle ahelps/observe?WineAllWine wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 1:30 pmIt means it applied to admins. Normally bans don't apply to admins, you have to press a special button to make it stick
Honestly I don't really know why it exists, if an admin is being banned we'd press the admin ban button.SkeletalElite wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 1:41 pmSo if an admin were to get banned (say 1 day for an invalid kill) they can just play anyways? Or would an admin ban be applied in that situation? If its a regular ban is it applied with an expectation of good faith that the admin wouldn't play and would only join to handle ahelps/observe?WineAllWine wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 1:30 pmIt means it applied to admins. Normally bans don't apply to admins, you have to press a special button to make it stick
Not really important, I'm just curious
kieth4 wrote: infrequently shitting yourself is fine imo
There is a lot of very bizarre nonsense being talked on this forum. I shall now remain silent and logoff until my points are vindicated.
Player who complainted over being killed for looting cap office wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2023 1:33 am Hey there, I'm Virescent, the super evil person who made the stupid appeal and didn't think it through enough. Just came here to say: screech, retards. Screech and writhe like the worms you are. Your pathetic little cries will keep echoing around for a while before quietting down. There is one great outcome from this: I rised up the blood pressure of some of you shitheads and lowered your lifespan. I'm honestly tempted to do this more often just to see you screech and writhe more, but that wouldn't be cool of me. So come on haters, show me some more of your high blood pressure please.
Pretty sure it exists as one of precautions to the entire "one person gets their account hijacked every admin gets instantly banned" problemWineAllWine wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 1:54 pmHonestly I don't really know why it exists, if an admin is being banned we'd press the admin ban button.SkeletalElite wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 1:41 pmSo if an admin were to get banned (say 1 day for an invalid kill) they can just play anyways? Or would an admin ban be applied in that situation? If its a regular ban is it applied with an expectation of good faith that the admin wouldn't play and would only join to handle ahelps/observe?WineAllWine wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 1:30 pmIt means it applied to admins. Normally bans don't apply to admins, you have to press a special button to make it stick
Not really important, I'm just curious
So the rules don't apply if you play long enough?NecromancerAnne wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 1:38 pmI think the issue is less how it is going to be resolved, but how this came to be in the first place. Any pretty severe incident like this should be a learning opportunity and a chance for maybe changing things to make sure that the process is impartial and fair. It's how you foster a healthy community of trust.sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 1:05 pm mso already intimated he plans reduce it to a temp ban
ain’t that big a deal. would be cool for it to be declassified though for transparency reasons (viz: continued peanuting)
I would want and hope that the system from top to bottom is one where everyone is on the same page, and there are equal expectations of professional conduct and limitations. It's a volunteer role. Nothing is binding anyone to this, but everyone wants to see it succeed, right? I don't think it is a radical statement to say 'let's be fair and professional about how we handle disagreements'.
Yesdirk_mcblade wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 3:23 pmSo the rules don't apply if you play long enough?NecromancerAnne wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 1:38 pmI think the issue is less how it is going to be resolved, but how this came to be in the first place. Any pretty severe incident like this should be a learning opportunity and a chance for maybe changing things to make sure that the process is impartial and fair. It's how you foster a healthy community of trust.sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 1:05 pm mso already intimated he plans reduce it to a temp ban
ain’t that big a deal. would be cool for it to be declassified though for transparency reasons (viz: continued peanuting)
I would want and hope that the system from top to bottom is one where everyone is on the same page, and there are equal expectations of professional conduct and limitations. It's a volunteer role. Nothing is binding anyone to this, but everyone wants to see it succeed, right? I don't think it is a radical statement to say 'let's be fair and professional about how we handle disagreements'.
Lvl 99 bossSuper Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 3:35 pmYesdirk_mcblade wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 3:23 pmSo the rules don't apply if you play long enough?NecromancerAnne wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 1:38 pmI think the issue is less how it is going to be resolved, but how this came to be in the first place. Any pretty severe incident like this should be a learning opportunity and a chance for maybe changing things to make sure that the process is impartial and fair. It's how you foster a healthy community of trust.sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 1:05 pm mso already intimated he plans reduce it to a temp ban
ain’t that big a deal. would be cool for it to be declassified though for transparency reasons (viz: continued peanuting)
I would want and hope that the system from top to bottom is one where everyone is on the same page, and there are equal expectations of professional conduct and limitations. It's a volunteer role. Nothing is binding anyone to this, but everyone wants to see it succeed, right? I don't think it is a radical statement to say 'let's be fair and professional about how we handle disagreements'.
Hey dude in sent you a really funny youtube video in discord DMs. You should click the link and watch it ASAP. Trust me it's really good. Click the linkKubisopplay wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 2:33 pm
Pretty sure it exists as one of precautions to the entire "one person gets their account hijacked every admin gets instantly banned" problem
I'm absolutely fucking floored that you'd say this given how many times I've answered urgent adminhelps brought up against you.
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