Terry, the N-word, and a fallen server.
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Re: Terry, the N-word, and a fallen server.
I was in that round. The spam was absolutely insane. It was around 9 pages of N-words spammed on comms every second. It's probably the reason why Terry won the N-word contest that term.
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Re: Terry, the N-word, and a fallen server.
what a peaceful method of protesting this noble terryite has chosen
respect (let him do his thing)
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Re: Terry, the N-word, and a fallen server.
Terry is healing
Jonathan Gupta wrote: ↑Sat Jan 22, 2022 6:32 pm all you godamn do is whine and complain come up with ideas, stop bitching for christs sake.
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Re: Terry, the N-word, and a fallen server.
A permanent ban for doing a little bit of nanite-style trolling... I don't even know what to say anymore.
Yet another example of why permanent bans should be replaced in 99% of cases with 1 year bans.
Yet another example of why permanent bans should be replaced in 99% of cases with 1 year bans.
I have a confirmed grand total of 1 merged PR. That basically means I'm a c*der now.
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Re: Terry, the N-word, and a fallen server.
im going to take a rolling pin and flatten you out to cartoonish proportions, ekat
im gay (and also play the moth “bugger”)
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Re: Terry, the N-word, and a fallen server.
He should be denied for writing that long of an appeal
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Re: Terry, the N-word, and a fallen server.
It absolutely flooded the chat instantly and lasted for a long time. It was very obvious griefing. Permanent bans are better than one year bans because the player has to show good faith and understanding of what they did wrong.
Yet another example of a terrible ekaterina take.
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Re: Terry, the N-word, and a fallen server.
lol gaddeem!Bucovineanu wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 12:01 pm Anything else we should know: For a rather long period of time I have contributed to, played on and adminned for a server explicitly built to rival tg. At this moment, the server (Merchant) is largely dead.
>burn down bridge to make server with blackjack and slurs
>server only pulls people who have been removed from tg
>it's unplayable and gets griefed constantly
>can i come back to tgstation?
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Re: Terry, the N-word, and a fallen server.
How does a word, not directed at anyone in particular, cause you grief?
If it's true that it caused lag, and you can prove he did it knowing it would cause lag, then I'd understand a permanent ban, but, without that element, this is excessive.
I have a confirmed grand total of 1 merged PR. That basically means I'm a c*der now.
sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 2:03 am Marina is actually a very high quality roleplayer, believe it or not, and a pretty fun and good-faith player in my experience.
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Re: Terry, the N-word, and a fallen server.
he was spamming the n word. I would even go as far as to say an admin wouldve been in the right to just rule 0 this guy and tell him to make an appeal when he's done being immature
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Re: Terry, the N-word, and a fallen server.
Just look at the say logs for that round before blindly criticising the administration about something you clearly don't understand.
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Re: Terry, the N-word, and a fallen server.
Why do you say this like he's some sort of war criminal? It's a word, not a magic spell - it only hurts you if you let it. It's no worse than any other spam.TheLoLSwat wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 3:57 pm He was spamming the n word. I would even go as far as to say an admin wouldve been in the right to just rule 0 this guy and tell him to make an appeal when he's done being immature
I have a confirmed grand total of 1 merged PR. That basically means I'm a c*der now.
sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 2:03 am Marina is actually a very high quality roleplayer, believe it or not, and a pretty fun and good-faith player in my experience.
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 8:50 am No deviations allowed. All must know the meta. All must power the game.
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Re: Terry, the N-word, and a fallen server.
ekaterina wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 2:09 pmThe whole point of the clarification included in the rule, which seemingly flew over your head at supersonic speeds, is that no word is inherently harmful - its use is what determines whether it's harmful or not.
And yet it literally does exactly that. Ligger is a slur for lizards, not for black people. Nobody uses it for black people, nor was it ever intended to be used for black people, nor would it make sense to use it in that context.
I can't tell whether you actually believe this insanity, like the Twitter people who take offence on others' behalf, or are just trying to start drama.
At least a broken racist clock is consistently wrong and racist. Some things never change.
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Re: Terry, the N-word, and a fallen server.
Jumping to insults, like you did just now calling me racist, is a telltale sign that you have no arguments to refute what I said. That's because I'm right and you know it.
"Nooooo how dare you not have a visceral irrational emotional reaction to a WORD like us?1!?!1?!"
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I have a confirmed grand total of 1 merged PR. That basically means I'm a c*der now.
sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 2:03 am Marina is actually a very high quality roleplayer, believe it or not, and a pretty fun and good-faith player in my experience.
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 8:50 am No deviations allowed. All must know the meta. All must power the game.
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Re: Terry, the N-word, and a fallen server.
Its not directed to anyone in particular but its like putting on a blindfold, walking into a city and then screaming the N-word at the top of your lungs. Yeah you could argue its not targeted but come on. It was also a BCI so he could have gotten other people in trouble since it pops up as the implanted person saying the N-word. This could be argued as a case of banbaiting aswell
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Re: Terry, the N-word, and a fallen server.
That would make it more serious if it were the case, no doubt, but do we have any indications this was his intention? This seems like pure speculation at this point.TheRex9001 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 4:07 pm It was also a BCI so he could have gotten other people in trouble since it pops up as the implanted person saying the N-word. This could be argued as a case of banbaiting aswell
I have a confirmed grand total of 1 merged PR. That basically means I'm a c*der now.
sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 2:03 am Marina is actually a very high quality roleplayer, believe it or not, and a pretty fun and good-faith player in my experience.
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 8:50 am No deviations allowed. All must know the meta. All must power the game.
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Re: Terry, the N-word, and a fallen server.
Who woulda thunk a server made to accept tg orphans would crash and burn under the weight of its own griefing lmao
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Armhulen wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2023 11:08 pmThe Spessmen Times wrote:Prohibition agent Sam Salamander bragged that he could find a metacord in any server in under 30 minutes. In Bagil it took him 21 minutes. In Sybil 17 minutes, and Manuel just 11 minutes. But Terry set the record of 35 seconds. Sam asked an assistant on the arrivals shuttle where to get a discord invite, and the assistant linked him one.
RedBaronFlyer wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:52 pmIt would somehow manage to pick Birdshot Station for headmin if we did that
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Re: Terry, the N-word, and a fallen server.
I wonder how long you hesitated to complete the onboarding test to get into merchant station.ekaterina wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 4:06 pmJumping to insults, like you did just now calling me racist, is a telltale sign that you have no arguments to refute what I said. That's because I'm right and you know it.
"Nooooo how dare you not have a visceral irrational emotional reaction to a WORD like us?1!?!1?!"
- ekaterina
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Re: Terry, the N-word, and a fallen server.
Is this word soup supposed to have meaning?
I never played on his server, which is the only clear part of what you said.
I have a confirmed grand total of 1 merged PR. That basically means I'm a c*der now.
sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 2:03 am Marina is actually a very high quality roleplayer, believe it or not, and a pretty fun and good-faith player in my experience.
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 8:50 am No deviations allowed. All must know the meta. All must power the game.
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Re: Terry, the N-word, and a fallen server.
can someone ban this retard i'm sick of him making every thread downs syndromeekaterina wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 4:06 pmJumping to insults, like you did just now calling me racist, is a telltale sign that you have no arguments to refute what I said. That's because I'm right and you know it.
"Nooooo how dare you not have a visceral irrational emotional reaction to a WORD like us?1!?!1?!"
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Re: Terry, the N-word, and a fallen server.
Does the intent matter? They forced others to spam the n-word, if I punch you no matter the intent you get punched/hurtekaterina wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 4:09 pmThat would make it more serious if it were the case, no doubt, but do we have any indications this was his intention? This seems like pure speculation at this point.TheRex9001 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 4:07 pm It was also a BCI so he could have gotten other people in trouble since it pops up as the implanted person saying the N-word. This could be argued as a case of banbaiting aswell
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Re: Terry, the N-word, and a fallen server.
You're right, I don't really need to wonder. I know you probably didn't hesitate.
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Re: Terry, the N-word, and a fallen server.
To be fair I'm lobbing some pretty cold takes in their direction so the defensiveness shouldn't be held against them.Super Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 4:13 pmcan someone ban this retard i'm sick of him making every thread downs syndromeekaterina wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 4:06 pmJumping to insults, like you did just now calling me racist, is a telltale sign that you have no arguments to refute what I said. That's because I'm right and you know it.
"Nooooo how dare you not have a visceral irrational emotional reaction to a WORD like us?1!?!1?!"
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Re: Terry, the N-word, and a fallen server.
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Re: Terry, the N-word, and a fallen server.
How does a word compare to a punch?TheRex9001 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 4:13 pm Does the intent matter? They forced others to spam the n-word, if I punch you no matter the intent you get punched/hurt
Forcing other people to say things, especially things that make them look bad, is not a helpful action, but it could be a harmless prank... just as it could actually get them in trouble, in which case it could be griefing.
Didn't hesitate TO WHAT?
No, but I get a little red W.
I have a confirmed grand total of 1 merged PR. That basically means I'm a c*der now.
sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 2:03 am Marina is actually a very high quality roleplayer, believe it or not, and a pretty fun and good-faith player in my experience.
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 8:50 am No deviations allowed. All must know the meta. All must power the game.
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Re: Terry, the N-word, and a fallen server.
edit: something something i dont condone these words blah blah you get itSuper Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 4:13 pm can someone ban this retard i'm sick of him making every thread downs syndrome
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im gay (and also play the moth “bugger”)
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Re: Terry, the N-word, and a fallen server.
Just go to Merchant already. It seems like your ideal server.ekaterina wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 4:17 pmHow does a word compare to a punch?TheRex9001 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 4:13 pm Does the intent matter? They forced others to spam the n-word, if I punch you no matter the intent you get punched/hurt
Forcing other people to say things, especially things that make them look bad, is not a helpful action, but it could be a harmless prank... just as it could actually get them in trouble, in which case it could be griefing.
Didn't hesitate TO WHAT?
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Re: Terry, the N-word, and a fallen server.
You do not know me. A server that's even more NRP than Terry (according to the accounts here) is in no way ideal.
I have a confirmed grand total of 1 merged PR. That basically means I'm a c*der now.
sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 2:03 am Marina is actually a very high quality roleplayer, believe it or not, and a pretty fun and good-faith player in my experience.
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 8:50 am No deviations allowed. All must know the meta. All must power the game.
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Re: Terry, the N-word, and a fallen server.
Then why are you complaining that someone causing massive spam (just like all of your takes) got banned?
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Re: Terry, the N-word, and a fallen server.
i guess i should do my civic duty and gently remind people to keep it civil! just because i see where this is slowly going
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Re: Terry, the N-word, and a fallen server.
I'm not. I'm complaining he got permanently banned.
I have a confirmed grand total of 1 merged PR. That basically means I'm a c*der now.
sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 2:03 am Marina is actually a very high quality roleplayer, believe it or not, and a pretty fun and good-faith player in my experience.
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 8:50 am No deviations allowed. All must know the meta. All must power the game.
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Re: Terry, the N-word, and a fallen server.
a perma ban takes like 15 minutes of work to get overturned calm down you dung beetle
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Re: Terry, the N-word, and a fallen server.
considering he went on to merchant station something tells me we missed very little in the time he was permanently banned. like you know what that server was like, right?
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Re: Terry, the N-word, and a fallen server.
-Super Aggro Crag, In Game PermaBannedSuper Aggro Crag wrote: a perma ban takes like 15 minutes of work to get overturned calm down you dung beetle
I have a confirmed grand total of 1 merged PR. That basically means I'm a c*der now.
sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 2:03 am Marina is actually a very high quality roleplayer, believe it or not, and a pretty fun and good-faith player in my experience.
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 8:50 am No deviations allowed. All must know the meta. All must power the game.
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Re: Terry, the N-word, and a fallen server.
What's wrong with getting a permanent ban instead of a one year ban? A permanent ban means he can't come back without showing good faith. It really doesn't take a lot of effort to make an appeal.
It's a free game, and access to the servers is a privilege, not a right. If he wants to come back after being so disruptive, he'll have to prove he can play in good faith. It's not like he gave anything to the community.
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Re: Terry, the N-word, and a fallen server.
exactly you dunwich horror how do you think i know?ekaterina wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 4:29 pm-Super Aggro Crag, In Game PermaBannedSuper Aggro Crag wrote: a perma ban takes like 15 minutes of work to get overturned calm down you dung beetle
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Re: Terry, the N-word, and a fallen server.
damn that round is an old one
the spam that got out of that was horrible, the entire comms was full of it
if i remember correctly people even took to discord and complained there later
the spam that got out of that was horrible, the entire comms was full of it
if i remember correctly people even took to discord and complained there later
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Re: Terry, the N-word, and a fallen server.
Forcing someone to humiliate himself on a public forum to be let back in rubs me the wrong way.
I disagree with this logic and attitude. If it were a whitelist server (i.e. private), this would make total sense - but it is a server open to the public.
I believe when you open something up to the public, you should have a fair reason to exclude one person (or several) in particular (which is what happens right now), not do it willy-nilly (which is what what you wrote seems to imply).
Considering he (allegedly) caused actual lag, you raise a reasonable point.
Not beyond what I read. Feel free to enlighten me.
I have a confirmed grand total of 1 merged PR. That basically means I'm a c*der now.
sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 2:03 am Marina is actually a very high quality roleplayer, believe it or not, and a pretty fun and good-faith player in my experience.
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 8:50 am No deviations allowed. All must know the meta. All must power the game.
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Re: Terry, the N-word, and a fallen server.
It was his choice to burn bridges with /tg/ to server hop to a server that openly welcomed racists, he humiliated himself. Frankly the move to merchantstation and becoming an admin just tells me that the common sense sniff test about his behaviors was 100% correct. Allowing people to slur without any intent behind them ("i'm just going to make people spam it lol") is not removing bigotry from the community even if the words aren't targeted at anyone in particular. if you are someone who spews slurs "randomly" and "without any intention behind them" you're just contributing to a community atmosphere where certain people feel very unwelcome.
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Re: Terry, the N-word, and a fallen server.
There really is no great way to explain that normalizing the meaningless use of slurs also normalizes an atmosphere of keeping the people those slurs are intended to demean out and if we did a lot of great players in our community would not want to play here. We should lose good community members over what?
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Re: Terry, the N-word, and a fallen server.
top 5 post count on the forum grindset, and i want to reach top 1
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Re: Terry, the N-word, and a fallen server.
where can we even see top post counts
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Re: Terry, the N-word, and a fallen server.
quick links -> members -> click posts to sort by posts descending
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Re: Terry, the N-word, and a fallen server.
shit's broken i have 926 posts when i search up my posts but it says i only have 139 on my profile and on the member list
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Re: Terry, the N-word, and a fallen server.
and where are you getting this 926 posts number from? actually, one explanation is that we've had boards that did not count your posts. the hut for example, doesn't increase posts because it was like player club spam but on crack
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Re: Terry, the N-word, and a fallen server.
i've never posted in the hut. i have like three posts in admin subforums. i guess it just doesn't count player club posts? lots of peanuts were moved over to the player's club.
if you click on my profile and click "search user's posts" it gives you "Search found 927 matches" (now 928)
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