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viewtopic.php?p=681940#p681940I dunno, I could go either way on this
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viewtopic.php?p=681940#p681940The point was that the HoS, in reality, has less authority than the captain does because at any point one of the people he has that authority over can click him twice with the stun baton that they start the round with and he loses all of it. No amount of departmental unity, actual or imagined, will change that. It takes vastly more effort for any non-security role to overthrow the captain than it takes for any security officer to overthrow the head of security. The officers are not obligated to respect the HoS out of gear, and are fully capable of overriding his decisions if they want to.ekaterina wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 8:02 pmThis ends up not being true in part because of what you say at the start, and in part because of security metaprotections. There's a higher level of expectation for security not abusing its superior gear to blatantly self-antag, and this includes attacking your own head randomly. In addition, security players generally understand that security forms a team and that we should be looking out for each other. This is compounded by the fact that security officers cannot be antagonists at round start, adding to that trust and sense of being on the same team. There are exceptions and problematic players, but this is the general rule in my experience. It might also have to do with the (correct) understanding that security is a paramilitary force, which makes its hierarchy more relevant for RP than in other departments.datorangebottle wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 6:03 pm The way it works is that every head only has as much authority as the person below them allows them to have (...) The HoS has less actual authority than the captain; ALL of his direct subordinates can take him down with two clicks roundstart, and the warden even has an advantage over him in close combat. The captain beats all other heads with a massive gear advantage, and ties with the HoS at worst.
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 9:16 pm I highly doubt any other admin on the team would have given you this chance, except maybe Kieth because his brain worms are almost as bad as mine.
Vekter wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 4:45 pm At what point does someone's refusal or failure to improve become malice in and of itself? If you give someone a year to stop shitting on the carpet and they keep doing it but get slightly closer to the bathroom every time and sometimes they get to the toilet before it happens, at what point does it become acceptable to just ask them to go shit in someone else's house?
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 7:00 pm I'm sorry, can we get a real player to resolve this appeal? I don't like this trial player. They can't even set their own name.
sinfulbliss wrote: ↑I almost prefer Rave's AI-generated "We cannot accept this appeal at this time. If you would like assistance appealing in the future, please dial 1-800-1984-1488."
Pandarsenic wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:25 pm I think we can all agree that someone throwing a reverse revolver at Zyb as a secret test of character, and Zyb immediately fucking himself with it, is the best thing we all could have received for Christmas this year
You are conflating authority with (relative) robustness. They are not the same. Authority is the power to command. If the security officers willingly listen to the HOS' orders without coercion on his part, he has authority even with a minute gap in equipment strength. Not all power derives from fear.datorangebottle wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 8:28 pm The point was that the HoS, in reality, has less authority than the captain does because at any point one of the people he has that authority over can click him twice with the stun baton that they start the round with and he loses all of it.
No, he really doesn't. Meme captains are a dime a dozen. Have you ever seen a meme HOS?datorangebottle wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 8:28 pm The Captain also gets the same metaprotections, inability to be antagonists, and higher expectations. The only difference is that you seem to arbitrarily justify disobeying the captain.
Capcurity? Really?datorangebottle wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 8:28 pm They should, in theory, be working with and be almost as reliant on the security team as the HoS is.
sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 2:03 am Marina is actually a very high quality roleplayer, believe it or not, and a pretty fun and good-faith player in my experience.
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 8:50 am No deviations allowed. All must know the meta. All must power the game.
Except, on the LRP servers, they are exactly the same. People are only required to respect you as far as they can throw you, and a baton takes quite a few feet off of that distance.ekaterina wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 9:16 pmYou are conflating authority with (relative) robustness. They are not the same. Authority is the power to command. If the security officers willingly listen to the HOS' orders without coercion on his part, he has authority even with a minute gap in equipment strength. Not all power derives from fear.datorangebottle wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 8:28 pm The point was that the HoS, in reality, has less authority than the captain does because at any point one of the people he has that authority over can click him twice with the stun baton that they start the round with and he loses all of it.
Hm. Maybe I'm misremembering, because I remember a headmin ruling saying specifically that heads of staff acting like security shared their metaprotections. Their standards are applied to anyone who acts as security, but that's a much looser thing and not satisfying enough for the sake of the argument.No, he really doesn't.datorangebottle wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 8:28 pm The Captain also gets the same metaprotections, inability to be antagonists, and higher expectations. The only difference is that you seem to arbitrarily justify disobeying the captain.
At least once, yes. And for every meme captain, there's a serious no-fun-allowed captain. There's a lot of variety among captain players, from your Old Johnsons to your Lisa Greens.Meme captains are a dime a dozen. Have you ever seen a meme HOS?
For the first point: that's a good thing to clarify and I wish you'd said it earlier.I'm not justifying disobeying the captain just because, I am justifying disobeying retarded orders. This goes regardless of whether they come from the captain, the HoS, or the warden.
If the captain, or the HoS, orders you to kill a random assistant for trespassing in botany, do you not think it is correct to disobey this?
Yup. He shouldn't be charging in to do the arrests personally and stealing their job content, but he should be enabling them to do so where he can, whether that's by opening doors, modifying the AI's laws to fit the situation and let them work together better, kicking cargo in the ass so they order more gun crates, etc.Capcurity? Really?datorangebottle wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 8:28 pm They should, in theory, be working with and be almost as reliant on the security team as the HoS is.
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 9:16 pm I highly doubt any other admin on the team would have given you this chance, except maybe Kieth because his brain worms are almost as bad as mine.
Vekter wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 4:45 pm At what point does someone's refusal or failure to improve become malice in and of itself? If you give someone a year to stop shitting on the carpet and they keep doing it but get slightly closer to the bathroom every time and sometimes they get to the toilet before it happens, at what point does it become acceptable to just ask them to go shit in someone else's house?
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 7:00 pm I'm sorry, can we get a real player to resolve this appeal? I don't like this trial player. They can't even set their own name.
sinfulbliss wrote: ↑I almost prefer Rave's AI-generated "We cannot accept this appeal at this time. If you would like assistance appealing in the future, please dial 1-800-1984-1488."
Pandarsenic wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:25 pm I think we can all agree that someone throwing a reverse revolver at Zyb as a secret test of character, and Zyb immediately fucking himself with it, is the best thing we all could have received for Christmas this year
I've played hos enough on lrp that I don't think this is an issue. I don't think I got couped once and I'm unrobust. Sec is all on the same team, and hos (at least how I play it) just reaffirms punishments and directs sec officers where to go. Most of the time I'm just updating sec records and watching cameras or checking in on the captain. You have to be really bad at hos to get the sec officers against you because to a certain extent you're just a rubber stamp for what they do.datorangebottle wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:06 pm Except, on the LRP servers, they are exactly the same. People are only required to respect you as far as they can throw you, and a baton takes quite a few feet off of that distance.
datorangebottle wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:06 pmAt least once, yes. And for every meme captain, there's a serious no-fun-allowed captain. There's a lot of variety among captain players, from your Old Johnsons to your Lisa Greens.
i dont think "bad" HOS's become victims of mutiny, more so the ones that way too engaged with sec and in a way that alienates the rest of the team. You can be a decent-good HOS but on lrp even simple disagreements can turn to one party stunning or shooting the other once and then all bets are off and two otherwise logical security members are overcome by ignorancedirk_mcblade wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:15 pm I've played hos enough on lrp that I don't think this is an issue. I don't think I got couped once and I'm unrobust. Sec is all on the same team, and hos (at least how I play it) just reaffirms punishments and directs sec officers where to go. Most of the time I'm just updating sec records and watching cameras or checking in on the captain. You have to be really bad at hos to get the sec officers against you because to a certain extent you're just a rubber stamp for what they do.
Because you're a pretty no-nonsense pro-sec captain from what I can tell.TheLoLSwat wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 11:08 pmdatorangebottle wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:06 pmAt least once, yes. And for every meme captain, there's a serious no-fun-allowed captain. There's a lot of variety among captain players, from your Old Johnsons to your Lisa Greens.
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 9:16 pm I highly doubt any other admin on the team would have given you this chance, except maybe Kieth because his brain worms are almost as bad as mine.
Vekter wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 4:45 pm At what point does someone's refusal or failure to improve become malice in and of itself? If you give someone a year to stop shitting on the carpet and they keep doing it but get slightly closer to the bathroom every time and sometimes they get to the toilet before it happens, at what point does it become acceptable to just ask them to go shit in someone else's house?
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 7:00 pm I'm sorry, can we get a real player to resolve this appeal? I don't like this trial player. They can't even set their own name.
sinfulbliss wrote: ↑I almost prefer Rave's AI-generated "We cannot accept this appeal at this time. If you would like assistance appealing in the future, please dial 1-800-1984-1488."
Pandarsenic wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:25 pm I think we can all agree that someone throwing a reverse revolver at Zyb as a secret test of character, and Zyb immediately fucking himself with it, is the best thing we all could have received for Christmas this year
*doesn't pay you anything*iwishforducks wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 11:23 pm bro wtf is going on in this thread you’re gonna have to pay me like 100 dollars to read any of this shit
tl;dr of the appeal relevant stuff: zyb didn't read the part in the headmin rulings where it said "if you torture people instead of giving them sane prison sentences, they're allowed to kill you in revenge", and the admin didn't realize either but is apologetic.iwishforducks wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 11:23 pm bro wtf is going on in this thread you’re gonna have to pay me like 100 dollars to read any of this shit
HOLY SHIT HE'S BROKEN OUT OF JAIL-
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 9:16 pm I highly doubt any other admin on the team would have given you this chance, except maybe Kieth because his brain worms are almost as bad as mine.
Vekter wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 4:45 pm At what point does someone's refusal or failure to improve become malice in and of itself? If you give someone a year to stop shitting on the carpet and they keep doing it but get slightly closer to the bathroom every time and sometimes they get to the toilet before it happens, at what point does it become acceptable to just ask them to go shit in someone else's house?
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 7:00 pm I'm sorry, can we get a real player to resolve this appeal? I don't like this trial player. They can't even set their own name.
sinfulbliss wrote: ↑I almost prefer Rave's AI-generated "We cannot accept this appeal at this time. If you would like assistance appealing in the future, please dial 1-800-1984-1488."
Pandarsenic wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:25 pm I think we can all agree that someone throwing a reverse revolver at Zyb as a secret test of character, and Zyb immediately fucking himself with it, is the best thing we all could have received for Christmas this year
well i would read this. but i can't. i simply cannot read anymore.datorangebottle wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 11:29 pmtl;dr of the appeal relevant stuff: zyb didn't read the part in the headmin rulings where it said "if you torture people instead of giving them sane prison sentences, they're allowed to kill you in revenge", and the admin didn't realize either but is apologetic.iwishforducks wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 11:23 pm bro wtf is going on in this thread you’re gonna have to pay me like 100 dollars to read any of this shit
tl;dr of me and ekaterina: words. words. yep yep yep yepyepyepyepyepyepyep
HOLY SHIT HE'S BROKEN OUT OF JAIL-
With interrupted regards
-datorangebottle
you a massive baby for doing that to him then ahelping when you got your comeuppance
Sure, I'll do it later today.Timberpoes wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:55 am Let's make hopcurity valid similar to talking mimes. Someone make the policy thread.
Armhulen wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2023 11:08 pmThe Spessmen Times wrote:Prohibition agent Sam Salamander bragged that he could find a metacord in any server in under 30 minutes. In Bagil it took him 21 minutes. In Sybil 17 minutes, and Manuel just 11 minutes. But Terry set the record of 35 seconds. Sam asked an assistant on the arrivals shuttle where to get a discord invite, and the assistant linked him one.
RedBaronFlyer wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:52 pmIt would somehow manage to pick Birdshot Station for headmin if we did that
Post a link here when you do so I can ironically quote your "we want heads to take a more active role" posts in your "hops catching a tider committing multiple capital offenses in their office should just wander off through the gateway" policy thread.Timberpoes wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:55 am Let's make hopcurity valid similar to talking mimes. Someone make the policy thread.
This is funny, but obviously he means a more active role in their jobs, not a more active role pretending to be security.Zybwivcz wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 11:00 amPost a link here when you do so I can ironically quote your "we want heads to take a more active role" posts in your "hops catching a tider committing multiple capital offenses in their office should just wander off through the gateway" policy thread.Timberpoes wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:55 am Let's make hopcurity valid similar to talking mimes. Someone make the policy thread.
sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 2:03 am Marina is actually a very high quality roleplayer, believe it or not, and a pretty fun and good-faith player in my experience.
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 8:50 am No deviations allowed. All must know the meta. All must power the game.
Thinking heads taking an active role means conducting arrests + punishments + gulaggings is exactly why you should've been banned for evading rather than Saprasm getting noted here.Zybwivcz wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 11:00 amPost a link here when you do so I can ironically quote your "we want heads to take a more active role" posts in your "hops catching a tider committing multiple capital offenses in their office should just wander off through the gateway" policy thread.Timberpoes wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:55 am Let's make hopcurity valid similar to talking mimes. Someone make the policy thread.
active role means getting more involved with your department, not parading someone around in cuffs instead of handing them to the wardenZybwivcz wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 11:00 amPost a link here when you do so I can ironically quote your "we want heads to take a more active role" posts in your "hops catching a tider committing multiple capital offenses in their office should just wander off through the gateway" policy thread.Timberpoes wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:55 am Let's make hopcurity valid similar to talking mimes. Someone make the policy thread.
Syndicate agents frequently attempt to steal cutting-edge technology. Examples include: intelligence or research samples, the Hand Teleporter, the Captain's Antique Laser, the Captain or the HoP's ID cards, or Mechs.
Mostly we're criticizing you for ahelping it, zyb.
I see how the wording "HoP's ID cards" could be confusing, but that means your ID card, not spare silver IDs. It was written back when the HoP's ID had the power to grant AA, hence its inclusion in grand theft. If stealing silver IDs constituted grand theft, not including actual head IDs but including empty silver IDs would make no sense.
sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 2:03 am Marina is actually a very high quality roleplayer, believe it or not, and a pretty fun and good-faith player in my experience.
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 8:50 am No deviations allowed. All must know the meta. All must power the game.
THIS GUY JUST QUOTED SPACE LAW LIKE IT'S POLICY. EVERYONE! LAUGH AT EKAT!!
THIS GUY IS COMPLETELY OBLIVIOUS TO THE FACT THAT I WAS RESPONDING TO Zybwivcz BRINGING UP SPACE LAW! LAUGH AT VIRGINLEY!
sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 2:03 am Marina is actually a very high quality roleplayer, believe it or not, and a pretty fun and good-faith player in my experience.
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 8:50 am No deviations allowed. All must know the meta. All must power the game.
Good news! Zyb poked his head into your appeal to give his 0.02c, so now I'm investigating him for evading his sec permaban via other roles in your appeal. How's that for some closure?
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2023-04-21 04:51:54 [mob_3768] (96,132,2) || Declan Stroble (zybwivcz) added Power and Engineering Equipment to an ID card belonging to Declan Stroble.
2023-04-21 04:51:57 [mob_3768] (96,132,2) || Declan Stroble (zybwivcz) added Security to an ID card belonging to Declan Stroble.
2023-04-21 04:51:58 [mob_3768] (96,132,2) || Declan Stroble (zybwivcz) added Holding Cells to an ID card belonging to Declan Stroble.
2023-04-21 04:52:01 [mob_3768] (96,132,2) || Declan Stroble (zybwivcz) added Armory to an ID card belonging to Declan Stroble.
the simplest of appeals seem to always end up being the most complicatedTimberpoes wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 7:51 pmGood news! Zyb poked his head into your appeal to give his 0.02c, so now I'm investigating him for evading his sec permaban via other roles in your appeal. How's that for some closure?
Digging up old skeletons to come up with a reason to ban Zybwivcz seems really shady.Timberpoes wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 7:51 pmGood news! Zyb poked his head into your appeal to give his 0.02c, so now I'm investigating him for evading his sec permaban via other roles in your appeal. How's that for some closure?
sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 2:03 am Marina is actually a very high quality roleplayer, believe it or not, and a pretty fun and good-faith player in my experience.
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 8:50 am No deviations allowed. All must know the meta. All must power the game.
Indeed, 1984. On a more serious note, however, it's different to act upon catching someone in the act and to go looking nearly a week after the fact for an excuse to ban someone, especially with "ban requests" not existing on tgstation (anymore?).
sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 2:03 am Marina is actually a very high quality roleplayer, believe it or not, and a pretty fun and good-faith player in my experience.
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 8:50 am No deviations allowed. All must know the meta. All must power the game.
Not the first time. There was a period where job bans were being fucky wucky that he used to sneak in a few Sec rounds some months ago. He skirted away without a ban since it was a bug.Timberpoes wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 7:51 pmGood news! Zyb poked his head into your appeal to give his 0.02c, so now I'm investigating him for evading his sec permaban via other roles in your appeal. How's that for some closure?
sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 2:03 am Marina is actually a very high quality roleplayer, believe it or not, and a pretty fun and good-faith player in my experience.
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 8:50 am No deviations allowed. All must know the meta. All must power the game.
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 9:16 pm I highly doubt any other admin on the team would have given you this chance, except maybe Kieth because his brain worms are almost as bad as mine.
Vekter wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 4:45 pm At what point does someone's refusal or failure to improve become malice in and of itself? If you give someone a year to stop shitting on the carpet and they keep doing it but get slightly closer to the bathroom every time and sometimes they get to the toilet before it happens, at what point does it become acceptable to just ask them to go shit in someone else's house?
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 7:00 pm I'm sorry, can we get a real player to resolve this appeal? I don't like this trial player. They can't even set their own name.
sinfulbliss wrote: ↑I almost prefer Rave's AI-generated "We cannot accept this appeal at this time. If you would like assistance appealing in the future, please dial 1-800-1984-1488."
Pandarsenic wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:25 pm I think we can all agree that someone throwing a reverse revolver at Zyb as a secret test of character, and Zyb immediately fucking himself with it, is the best thing we all could have received for Christmas this year
Would it make you feel any better if there are 5 instances of him giving himself sec accesses since this appeal was opened...ekaterina wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 8:28 pm This came up in another thread where someone claimed "we all" metacommed when we started out on SS13... and then everyone told this person that no, we did not, and an admin joked that the user would now be permabanned as there was no statute of limitations.
If there isn't one already, there should be a time limit after which bans can't be placed.
Yes. It does, indeed.Timberpoes wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 8:36 pm Would it make you feel any better if there are 5 instances of him giving himself sec accesses since this appeal was opened...
So I'm not actually digging back weeks, I'm actually digging forward into the future from the reported incident?
sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 2:03 am Marina is actually a very high quality roleplayer, believe it or not, and a pretty fun and good-faith player in my experience.
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 8:50 am No deviations allowed. All must know the meta. All must power the game.
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 8:36 pm ... and that I'm now investigating him choosing to gulag 4 other people since this appeal was opened?
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[2023-04-22 03:19:11.142] Zybwivcz \ Gael Graham \ Captain \ NONE \ LATEJOIN
Looks like ol' Zyb has gone rogue again. He's off the reservation! Acting like SEC with no authority!Code: Select all
Line 1946: [204247] [2023-04-22 21:20:04.491] GAME: Zybwivcz/(Jasper Coldsmith) teleported ShizzleGaming/(Zack Andreev) to the Labor Camp (69,32,5) for 690 points. (Brig (99,169,2))
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09:19:08 SAY Zybwivcz/(Jasper Coldsmith) "won't need a medkit in brazil" (110, 167, 2) Brig
09:19:13 SAY ShizzleGaming/(Zack Andreev) "the fuck you mean?" (102, 166, 2) Brig
09:19:21 SAY Zybwivcz/(Jasper Coldsmith) "this guy broke into the bridge and stole a baton and is probably a heretic" (103, 166, 2) Brig
09:19:22 SAY FoxUkraine/(Keith Alex) "Welp" (107, 163, 2) Brig Control
09:19:24 SAY Zybwivcz/(Jasper Coldsmith) "I'm going to gulag him" (103, 166, 2) Brig
09:19:24 SAY ShizzleGaming/(Zack Andreev) "what?" (102, 166, 2) Brig
09:19:29 EMOTE Zybwivcz/(Jasper Coldsmith) waves. (103, 166, 2) Brig
09:19:30 SAY ShizzleGaming/(Zack Andreev) "The fuck you mean?" (102, 166, 2) Brig
09:19:33 SAY FoxUkraine/(Keith Alex) "Granted" (107, 163, 2) Brig Control
09:19:33 EMOTE *no key*/(pug) chases her tail! (107, 166, 2) Brig Control
09:19:33 SAY ShizzleGaming/(Zack Andreev) "Baseless accusations?" (98, 170, 2) Brig
09:19:37 SAY ShizzleGaming/(Zack Andreev) "Actual dickheadery" (99, 167, 2) Brig
09:19:37 EMOTE Zybwivcz/(Jasper Coldsmith) points at Zack Andreev (99, 166, 2) Brig
09:19:40 SAY FoxUkraine/(Keith Alex) "Granted" (99, 165, 2) Brig
09:19:43 SAY FreshestSoup/(William Dornan) "heretic" (101, 166, 2) Brig
09:19:44 SAY FoxUkraine/(Keith Alex) "I'm warden" (98, 165, 2) Brig
09:19:46 SAY Zybwivcz/(Jasper Coldsmith) "what's the funniest number?" (99, 169, 2) Brig
09:19:50 SAY FreshestSoup/(William Dornan) "say 21" (98, 172, 2) Brig
09:19:54 SAY Zybwivcz/(Jasper Coldsmith) "69" (99, 169, 2) Brig
09:19:54 SAY ShizzleGaming/(Zack Andreev) "The fuck you mean funniest number?" (100, 169, 2) Brig
09:19:56 SAY FreshestSoup/(William Dornan) "last chance of redempption" (98, 172, 2) Brig
09:19:58 SAY FoxUkraine/(Keith Alex) "Good idea 69" (97, 168, 2) Brig
Already bored so I'll just say I'm acting captain and the mime's a traitor in this one.Code: Select all
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Are you familiar with the concept of motivated reasoning Timberpoes?So I'm not actually digging back weeks, I'm actually digging forward into the future from the reported incident?
I didn't ahelp until he decided to round remove me and lie about having traitor gear, which pushed it over the edge.
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