local headmin loses his marbles?!

[TypicalRig]

Now that I've had some internal experience with them my view has changed. As such, consider this my updated review! The comment I posted here when they first got admin no longer rings true.

Nameless seems to be- with no other way to explain it- thin-skinned, when things don't go their way they really don't like it and get upset. This is fine, but it's also frustrating when trying to discuss solutions to potential issues and nameless is there decrying how the high standards of tg are about to fall.

I don't think they're a bad person by any means, I just think them to be incredibly emotionally immature which makes it difficult to be on the other side of an argument to them as they will say some pretty outlandish things and act incredibly melodramatic.

if this isn't the most childish reaction lol

[dirk_mcblade]

Head janny claps back at janny. Eliminates one gold star. All parties continue to work for free.

[Timberpoes]

Well, you know what they say. "The only thing more accurate than incoming enemy fire is incoming friendly fire". If you want to see more instances of friendly fire, my candidate thread had shots fired from oranges, Alphonzo, Hulk, Coco, Arm and probably more.

Traditionalist headmins will piss off people that want change. Disruptive headmins will piss off people that want status quo. If Headmins disagree in public they get people questioning if the term is breaking down. If they don't disagree in public they get people questioning why, how and what the fuck they're doing with any controversial decision or change. Player-focused headmins piss off admins. Admin-focused headmins piss off players.

This term was always going to be player-favoured though. The players indirectly got their #1 and #2 votes onto the headmin team. Me and Keith both stood on anti-traditionalist platforms. Nameless is a very traditionalist admin.

I think you'll find this is more a clash of ideology and clash of personality.

As a headmin, we'll never make everyone happy and chasing after that goal is a fool's errand. Most terms just want to leave some aspect of the servers in a stronger place than when they started, and hope to be remembered for that succeeding.

[conrad]

words words words

Right. It's still retaliatory, making it lame.

[Timberpoes]

I think the alternative of the person to fire shots first having complete ownership over the narrative and attempts to bring an alternative perspective being shot down is even more lame, though.

The question is not "is Keith's retaliation lame?"

I think the question is "how much truth exists in Nameless's feedback and Kieth's responses?"

Probably ends up with the utterly boring outcome of: They kinda both probably have a point in their own subjective ways, and matching valid feedback with valid feedback shouldn't be discouraged when both parties are being honest.

[TypicalRig]

Disagreeing is fine but that post was clearly made as a potshot and to vent. There was no purpose behind it other than to be snooty, which isn't what feedback is for. I think he's just ranting and I think one day he'll look back and and think oh fuck I shouldn't have posted that. I wish him the absolute best, hope he works on himself, hope he becomes a master of his own emotions and then has a laugh at the goober he once was.

[Timberpoes]

Disagreeing is fine but that post was clearly made as a potshot and to vent. There was no purpose behind it other than to be snooty, which isn't what feedback is for. I think he's just ranting and I think one day he'll look back and and think oh fuck I shouldn't have posted that. I wish him the absolute best, hope he works on himself, hope he becomes a master of his own emotions and then has a laugh at the goober he once was.

I got that reference.

[conrad]

I think the alternative of the person to fire shots first having complete ownership over the narrative and attempts to bring an alternative perspective being shot down is even more lame, though.

The question is not "is Keith's retaliation lame?"

I think the question is "how much truth exists in Nameless's feedback and Kieth's responses?"

Probably ends up with the utterly boring outcome of: They kinda both probably have a point in their own subjective ways, and matching valid feedback with valid feedback shouldn't be discouraged when both parties are being honest.

There is no ownership of any narrative. There's Nameless ranting on a feedback thread about something we can all proceed to carry on with our lives, followed by Kieth doing the exact same thing.

Discussing truth in narrative is one thing. I think it's valid. Using feedback threads to lob dead cows is another.

[TypicalRig]

On a more serious note, nobody is arguing that the initial complainer should have control of the narrative. I also think NamelessFairy's criticism came from a place of anger. But the whole "he started it!!!" argument is worn out and doesn't really get anything done aside from people collecting their internal Tumblr clapback internet points. I could've just as easily made a "NamelessFairy loses their marbles?!" thread with their rant, but the difference between NamelessFairy's rant and Kieth's is that when I see NamelessFairy's rant about Kieth, I see someone who is frustrated because they care about the server and things are happening that they think is bad for the server. When I see Kieth's rant it's just someone lashing out because they got lashed out at. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind, and what not.

[Timberpoes]

Valid. But the time for diplomacy has ended. Now we go to war.

This grudge can only be settled in one way.

We will elect goof as an honourary fourth headmin and he will oversee the Nameless x Kieth thunderdome.

Two cats enter. One victor leaves.

Starring Burt Reynolds. Soundtrack by Tangerine Dream.

[Capsandi]

HOLY FUCK THE TERM IS DYING LMAO HAHAHAHAHAH
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAoR4h6SQGg

[Kendrickorium]

Valid. But the time for diplomacy has ended. Now we go to war.

This grudge can only be settled in one way.

We will elect goof as an honourary fourth headmin and he will oversee the Nameless x Kieth thunderdome.

Two cats enter. One victor leaves.

Starring Burt Reynolds. Soundtrack by Tangerine Dream.

as someone who suffered under goof's small term as owner of hippiestation, please for the love of god never put them in a position of power

[TypicalRig]

Valid. But the time for diplomacy has ended. Now we go to war.

This grudge can only be settled in one way.

We will elect goof as an honourary fourth headmin and he will oversee the Nameless x Kieth thunderdome.

Two cats enter. One victor leaves.

Starring Burt Reynolds. Soundtrack by Tangerine Dream.

as someone who suffered under goof's small term as owner of hippiestation, please for the love of god never put them in a position of power

as someone who suffered under goof's small term as owner of hippiestation, I say let history repeat its self. bring forth the chaos. goof for headmin 2023!!!!

[TheLoLSwat]

Valid. But the time for diplomacy has ended. Now we go to war.

This grudge can only be settled in one way.

We will elect goof as an honourary fourth headmin and he will oversee the Nameless x Kieth thunderdome.

Two cats enter. One victor leaves.

Starring Burt Reynolds. Soundtrack by Tangerine Dream.

as someone who prospered under goof's small term as owner of hippiestation, please for the love of god never put them in a position of power

as someone who prospered under goof's small term as owner of hippiestation, I say let history repeat its self. bring forth the chaos. goof for headmin 2023!!!!

weird way to say "prospered" but its ok i fixed it for you two

[Kendrickorium]

Valid. But the time for diplomacy has ended. Now we go to war.

This grudge can only be settled in one way.

We will elect goof as an honourary fourth headmin and he will oversee the Nameless x Kieth thunderdome.

Two cats enter. One victor leaves.

Starring Burt Reynolds. Soundtrack by Tangerine Dream.

as someone who prospered under goof's small term as owner of hippiestation, please for the love of god never put them in a position of power

as someone who prospered under goof's small term as owner of hippiestation, I say let history repeat its self. bring forth the chaos. goof for headmin 2023!!!!

weird way to say "prospered" but its ok i fixed it for you two

ew, alternate timeline lolswat detected

[Vekter]

This term's gotten shit done. I'm sorry to hear it hasn't been the most civil term, but that's what happens when you shove three people who were elected in a room and they disagree on a core mentality of how things should work.

It's politics, baybee

[saprasam]

who cares
terms been good enough

[yobihodazine2]

The absurdity of this team's emotionally fragile asses telling me not to come back until I have mastered my own emotions is not lost on me. Timberpoes needs people to kowtow to his superior attitude. I'm sorry if I'm "an odious cunt. A total fucking gremlin to deal with." Mr. Poes but if you're making decisions about players based on how they make you feel and not factual information then you are easily manipulated. If there's one thing I like less than a strict admin team, it's one that can be easily charmed.

[Timberpoes]

So anyway, you're an odious cunt. A total fucking gremlin to deal with.

[yobihodazine2]

Yeah and I really fail to see the necessity of that invective. You made no effort to hide that I was a target from then on. Nothing could make me happier than the way things turned out.

[The Wrench]

When you get Perma banned in game, you should be immediately Perma banned from the players club tbh

[TypicalRig]

When you get Perma banned in game, you should be immediately Perma banned from the players club tbh

but the content

[AwkwardStereo]

When you get Perma banned in game, you should be immediately Perma banned from the players club tbh

but the content

not all content is entertaining content

[datorangebottle]

When you get Perma banned in game, you should be immediately Perma banned from the players club tbh

but the content

not all content is entertaining content

and not all entertaining content is entertaining enough to justify its existence.

[yobihodazine2]

When you have control over something that other people love, a semblance of power is formed. This can warrant testing and serious discussion. I do have a certain respect for them all, because it is clear I am removed for being unpleasant. I just wish they would spell it out instead of trying to justify it with notes or ic conflicts. Because there is not a single note I have that I didn't learn from.

[oranges]

Disagreeing is fine but that post was clearly made as a potshot and to vent. There was no purpose behind it other than to be snooty

pretty sure this is all the admin feedback forum has ever been used for

[yobihodazine2]

[sinfulbliss]

If you ask me, it’s about bloody time the admin feedback threads were used for something other than admins’ friends saying how they are cool guys.

Let’s get some god damn REAL feedback in there for once, I’m all for it. Also let’s be real ain’t no player ever gonna leave negative admin feedback unless their level of “pissed” exceeds their more rational instinct to not shit on someone who will likely be deciding whether to ban or how to bwoink you later down the road.

[WineAllWine]

If you ask me, it’s about bloody time the admin feedback threads were used for something other than admins’ friends saying how they are cool guys.

Let’s get some god damn REAL feedback in there for once, I’m all for it. Also let’s be real ain’t no player ever gonna leave negative admin feedback unless their level of “pissed” exceeds their more rational instinct to not shit on someone who will likely be deciding whether to ban or how to bwoink you later down the road.

I would love negative feedback in my thread. Help me be a better admin!

[sinfulbliss]

If you ask me, it’s about bloody time the admin feedback threads were used for something other than admins’ friends saying how they are cool guys.

Let’s get some god damn REAL feedback in there for once, I’m all for it. Also let’s be real ain’t no player ever gonna leave negative admin feedback unless their level of “pissed” exceeds their more rational instinct to not shit on someone who will likely be deciding whether to ban or how to bwoink you later down the road.

I would love negative feedback in my thread. Help me be a better admin!

it’s a great paradox. admins that would gracefully accept negative feedback to improve, don’t need negative feedback because they’re good admins. admins that would accept it begrudgingly and keep the chip on their shoulder cause you left it, are the ones that need it most

[kinnebian]

If you ask me, it’s about bloody time the admin feedback threads were used for something other than admins’ friends saying how they are cool guys.

Let’s get some god damn REAL feedback in there for once, I’m all for it. Also let’s be real ain’t no player ever gonna leave negative admin feedback unless their level of “pissed” exceeds their more rational instinct to not shit on someone who will likely be deciding whether to ban or how to bwoink you later down the road.

I would love negative feedback in my thread. Help me be a better admin!

it’s a great paradox. admins that would gracefully accept negative feedback to improve, don’t need negative feedback because they’re good admins. admins that would accept it begrudgingly and keep the chip on their shoulder cause you left it, are the ones that need it most

then start putting feedback out nobodies stopping you
if i could put a link to it in my adminwho i would

[Lacran]

I think admins should definitely be calling each other out on their shit in feedback.

I think it is viewed as immature as it probably would've been better to place feedback after the headmin term as placing it turning kind of just makes it look like kieth is having a tantrum about nameless having a tantrum.

[sinfulbliss]

If you ask me, it’s about bloody time the admin feedback threads were used for something other than admins’ friends saying how they are cool guys.

Let’s get some god damn REAL feedback in there for once, I’m all for it. Also let’s be real ain’t no player ever gonna leave negative admin feedback unless their level of “pissed” exceeds their more rational instinct to not shit on someone who will likely be deciding whether to ban or how to bwoink you later down the road.

I would love negative feedback in my thread. Help me be a better admin!

it’s a great paradox. admins that would gracefully accept negative feedback to improve, don’t need negative feedback because they’re good admins. admins that would accept it begrudgingly and keep the chip on their shoulder cause you left it, are the ones that need it most

then start putting feedback out nobodies stopping you
if i could put a link to it in my adminwho i would

i think ya missed the point of the post kinneb

[oranges]

In this dystopian cyberpunk realm of 2077, my perception has undergone an internal shift, giving me a new perspective. Consider this an updated review, as the previous comment I shared upon their ascent to admin status no longer holds relevance in this augmented reality.

Nameless, in a world where identities blur and fade, exhibits an intriguing attribute - a thin-skinned nature that defies conventional explanation. When confronted with unfavorable outcomes, their response is visceral, reflecting a deep discomfort. While this response may be understandable, it becomes increasingly frustrating within the context of discussing potential issues and solutions. Nameless, draped in shadows of defiance, laments the impending downfall of TG's esteemed standards, shrouding the discourse in an aura of impending cybernetic chaos.

While I don't perceive them as malicious within the tangled web of this digital metropolis, their emotional immaturity shines through, casting an iridescent neon glow. Engaging in an argument with them feels like navigating a labyrinthine maze of distorted code, where their words manifest as glitched fragments and their actions unfold in an overblown, theatrical manner. Their melodramatic performance, reminiscent of shattered holograms flickering in the rain-soaked streets, adds an unsettling layer to our exchanges, leaving me questioning the authenticity of their responses.

[kinnebian]

If you ask me, it’s about bloody time the admin feedback threads were used for something other than admins’ friends saying how they are cool guys.

Let’s get some god damn REAL feedback in there for once, I’m all for it. Also let’s be real ain’t no player ever gonna leave negative admin feedback unless their level of “pissed” exceeds their more rational instinct to not shit on someone who will likely be deciding whether to ban or how to bwoink you later down the road.

I would love negative feedback in my thread. Help me be a better admin!

it’s a great paradox. admins that would gracefully accept negative feedback to improve, don’t need negative feedback because they’re good admins. admins that would accept it begrudgingly and keep the chip on their shoulder cause you left it, are the ones that need it most

then start putting feedback out nobodies stopping you
if i could put a link to it in my adminwho i would

i think ya missed the point of the post kinneb

i should stop posting when i wake up on early mornings

[conrad]

In this dystopian cyberpunk realm of 2077, my perception has undergone an internal shift, giving me a new perspective. Consider this an updated review, as the previous comment I shared upon their ascent to admin status no longer holds relevance in this augmented reality.

Nameless, in a world where identities blur and fade, exhibits an intriguing attribute - a thin-skinned nature that defies conventional explanation. When confronted with unfavorable outcomes, their response is visceral, reflecting a deep discomfort. While this response may be understandable, it becomes increasingly frustrating within the context of discussing potential issues and solutions. Nameless, draped in shadows of defiance, laments the impending downfall of TG's esteemed standards, shrouding the discourse in an aura of impending cybernetic chaos.

While I don't perceive them as malicious within the tangled web of this digital metropolis, their emotional immaturity shines through, casting an iridescent neon glow. Engaging in an argument with them feels like navigating a labyrinthine maze of distorted code, where their words manifest as glitched fragments and their actions unfold in an overblown, theatrical manner. Their melodramatic performance, reminiscent of shattered holograms flickering in the rain-soaked streets, adds an unsettling layer to our exchanges, leaving me questioning the authenticity of their responses.

In future world 2077, me see things different now. Nameless, they sensitive and get mad when things bad. They worry about chaos and act like big drama. Me not sure if they real.

[Drag]

If you ask me, it’s about bloody time the admin feedback threads were used for something other than admins’ friends saying how they are cool guys.

Let’s get some god damn REAL feedback in there for once, I’m all for it. Also let’s be real ain’t no player ever gonna leave negative admin feedback unless their level of “pissed” exceeds their more rational instinct to not shit on someone who will likely be deciding whether to ban or how to bwoink you later down the road.

Give me feedback then, nerd

[TypicalRig]

In this dystopian cyberpunk realm of 2077, my perception has undergone an internal shift, giving me a new perspective. Consider this an updated review, as the previous comment I shared upon their ascent to admin status no longer holds relevance in this augmented reality.

Nameless, in a world where identities blur and fade, exhibits an intriguing attribute - a thin-skinned nature that defies conventional explanation. When confronted with unfavorable outcomes, their response is visceral, reflecting a deep discomfort. While this response may be understandable, it becomes increasingly frustrating within the context of discussing potential issues and solutions. Nameless, draped in shadows of defiance, laments the impending downfall of TG's esteemed standards, shrouding the discourse in an aura of impending cybernetic chaos.

While I don't perceive them as malicious within the tangled web of this digital metropolis, their emotional immaturity shines through, casting an iridescent neon glow. Engaging in an argument with them feels like navigating a labyrinthine maze of distorted code, where their words manifest as glitched fragments and their actions unfold in an overblown, theatrical manner. Their melodramatic performance, reminiscent of shattered holograms flickering in the rain-soaked streets, adds an unsettling layer to our exchanges, leaving me questioning the authenticity of their responses.

write the book

[sinfulbliss]

If you ask me, it’s about bloody time the admin feedback threads were used for something other than admins’ friends saying how they are cool guys.

Let’s get some god damn REAL feedback in there for once, I’m all for it. Also let’s be real ain’t no player ever gonna leave negative admin feedback unless their level of “pissed” exceeds their more rational instinct to not shit on someone who will likely be deciding whether to ban or how to bwoink you later down the road.

Give me feedback then, nerd

one time i considered leaving feedback on every admin’s thread that i had an opinion about. decided that was a phenomenally dumb idea for obvious reasons

BWOINK
“Axle killed me FNR literally can u look into this”
Abmin: “ You bet your ass I can”

BWOINK
Abmin: “Hey hey Sinful! Can I ask why you killed John Nanotrasen?” (HUEHUEHUE WELL WELL WELL IF IT ISNT THE SON OF A BITCH WHO SOILED MY FEEDBACK THREAD… I WONDER WHO ILL BE GIVING THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT TO TODAY!! AHAHAHAHAHHAA!!!)

[conrad]

If you ask me, it’s about bloody time the admin feedback threads were used for something other than admins’ friends saying how they are cool guys.

Let’s get some god damn REAL feedback in there for once, I’m all for it. Also let’s be real ain’t no player ever gonna leave negative admin feedback unless their level of “pissed” exceeds their more rational instinct to not shit on someone who will likely be deciding whether to ban or how to bwoink you later down the road.

Give me feedback then, nerd

one time i considered leaving feedback on every admin’s thread that i had an opinion about. decided that was a phenomenally dumb idea for obvious reasons

BWOINK
“Axle killed me FNR literally can u look into this”
Abmin: “ You bet your ass I can”

BWOINK
Abmin: “Hey hey Sinful! Can I ask why you killed John Nanotrasen?” (HUEHUEHUE WELL WELL WELL IF IT ISNT THE SON OF A BITCH WHO SOILED MY FEEDBACK THREAD… I WONDER WHO ILL BE GIVING THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT TO TODAY!! AHAHAHAHAHHAA!!!)

Wuss

[Not-Dorsidarf]

i dont think i ever remembered the name of anyone who posted in my feedback thread when I was an admin so that's an unfounded fear. Admins are much more likely to know who you are from your constant peanut thread soapboxing

[Super Aggro Crag]

If you ask me, it’s about bloody time the admin feedback threads were used for something other than admins’ friends saying how they are cool guys.

Let’s get some god damn REAL feedback in there for once, I’m all for it. Also let’s be real ain’t no player ever gonna leave negative admin feedback unless their level of “pissed” exceeds their more rational instinct to not shit on someone who will likely be deciding whether to ban or how to bwoink you later down the road.

Give me feedback then, nerd

one time i considered leaving feedback on every admin’s thread that i had an opinion about. decided that was a phenomenally dumb idea for obvious reasons

BWOINK
“Axle killed me FNR literally can u look into this”
Abmin: “ You bet your ass I can”

BWOINK
Abmin: “Hey hey Sinful! Can I ask why you killed John Nanotrasen?” (HUEHUEHUE WELL WELL WELL IF IT ISNT THE SON OF A BITCH WHO SOILED MY FEEDBACK THREAD… I WONDER WHO ILL BE GIVING THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT TO TODAY!! AHAHAHAHAHHAA!!!)

You could ask for a different admin to handle your ticket and if you're accused of admin shopping you could tell the headmins on the forum that you will you are being specifically targeted by someone for saying they're a bad jannie in their feedback thread. The reason why people don't do negative feedback that much in feedback threads, in my belief, is that people who are ticked off that much by an admin are more likely to make a complaint thread than a feedback thread.

[sinfulbliss]

i dont think i ever remembered the name of anyone who posted in my feedback thread when I was an admin so that's an unfounded fear. Admins are much more likely to know who you are from your constant peanut thread soapboxing

of course you wouldn't remember anyone you were an admin like a decade ago pal. licherally was an admin before the n-word was banned
+ you prolly didn't get much if any negative feedback since it barely ever happens

[NecromancerAnne]

Iunno what the big deal is, kieth seems to be being pretty upfront and on the level with their feedback. It reads pretty constructively, and highlights the issues they have based on Nameless' conduct from their perspective. This doesn't seem confrontational except where people want to infer confrontation and drama-stirring.

Of course, as a headmin, they can approach the admin in question privately, but I think a feedback thread can its own historical record, which can be useful. There is a good degree of information lost as time rolls on and admins enter and depart, kieth included. He has had only his term in the headmin seat to have any experience in the tg admin team.

[Striders13]

If you ask me, it’s about bloody time the admin feedback threads were used for something other than admins’ friends saying how they are cool guys.

Let’s get some god damn REAL feedback in there for once, I’m all for it. Also let’s be real ain’t no player ever gonna leave negative admin feedback unless their level of “pissed” exceeds their more rational instinct to not shit on someone who will likely be deciding whether to ban or how to bwoink you later down the road.

Give me feedback then, nerd

one time i considered leaving feedback on every admin’s thread that i had an opinion about. decided that was a phenomenally dumb idea for obvious reasons

BWOINK
“Axle killed me FNR literally can u look into this”
Abmin: “ You bet your ass I can”

BWOINK
Abmin: “Hey hey Sinful! Can I ask why you killed John Nanotrasen?” (HUEHUEHUE WELL WELL WELL IF IT ISNT THE SON OF A BITCH WHO SOILED MY FEEDBACK THREAD… I WONDER WHO ILL BE GIVING THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT TO TODAY!! AHAHAHAHAHHAA!!!)

it's okay man admins hate all players anyway

[Justice12354]

one time i considered leaving feedback on every admin’s thread that i had an opinion about. decided that was a phenomenally dumb idea for obvious reasons

BWOINK
“Axle killed me FNR literally can u look into this”
Abmin: “ You bet your ass I can”

BWOINK
Abmin: “Hey hey Sinful! Can I ask why you killed John Nanotrasen?” (HUEHUEHUE WELL WELL WELL IF IT ISNT THE SON OF A BITCH WHO SOILED MY FEEDBACK THREAD… I WONDER WHO ILL BE GIVING THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT TO TODAY!! AHAHAHAHAHHAA!!!)

You're being silly, sinful. If you really believe an admin is that childish, you should just complain to the headmins so they can keep an eye out on them (don't tell this to the others, but you can DM them). There is nothing more toxic to the admin team (and consequentially the playerbase) than an admin who does shit incorrectly and cannot see their own mistake, followed up by begrudgingly punishing (directly or indirectly) the player who called them out.

However, this is a hard thing to prove anyway, so you shouldn't go around blindly accusing admins of being begrudging pieces of shit, because that won't lead you anywhere in the first place. In the case you don't have proof of that yourself, why assume the admins will hold a grudge against you? I wouldn't. I'd be like "Eh, what did I do to this guy?" but I'd then just deal with it and move on because acceptance is necessary to improve from our mistakes (100% confirmed true fact). I understand that maybe not every admin may see it the same way as I do, but I bet the majority of us just want to use that feedback to do stuff better. At the end of the day, we're not here because we enjoy the power trip (sometimes (many times) it's actually a fucking headache to admin), but because we want to improve the players' experience (or at least we try to).

[Archie700]

If you ask me, it’s about bloody time the admin feedback threads were used for something other than admins’ friends saying how they are cool guys.

Let’s get some god damn REAL feedback in there for once, I’m all for it. Also let’s be real ain’t no player ever gonna leave negative admin feedback unless their level of “pissed” exceeds their more rational instinct to not shit on someone who will likely be deciding whether to ban or how to bwoink you later down the road.

Give me feedback then, nerd

one time i considered leaving feedback on every admin’s thread that i had an opinion about. decided that was a phenomenally dumb idea for obvious reasons

BWOINK
“Axle killed me FNR literally can u look into this”
Abmin: “ You bet your ass I can”

BWOINK
Abmin: “Hey hey Sinful! Can I ask why you killed John Nanotrasen?” (HUEHUEHUE WELL WELL WELL IF IT ISNT THE SON OF A BITCH WHO SOILED MY FEEDBACK THREAD… I WONDER WHO ILL BE GIVING THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT TO TODAY!! AHAHAHAHAHHAA!!!)

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Scenario/Adminhelp
Firstly, the actual situation that was ahelped: Nabski made the wrong call here. Taking an ahelp involving someone with an open complaint against you is poor conduct itself (you should recuse yourself in this sort of scenario), but the actual situation was dealt with incorrectly, too. It wasn't unreasonable for the roboticist (SpookyPurpleCat) to make someone who was acting like an antagonist into a revolutionary, especially when ordered to by a security officer, who are generally thought to be an authority on crime/antagonists. Now, receiving an order to do something from security isn't always an excuse to do something, but the point is that the roboticist in this case clearly had sufficient IC reasoning to do what they did.

If you made a bad review on the admin and it directly affects a later ruling on you then it is grounds for an appeal and complaint.
For a person who's very outspoken I'm surprised you didn't even think of this.

[sinfulbliss]

You're being silly, sinful. If you really believe an admin is that childish, you should just complain to the headmins so they can keep an eye out on them (don't tell this to the others, but you can DM them). There is nothing more toxic to the admin team (and consequentially the playerbase) than an admin who does shit incorrectly and cannot see their own mistake, followed up by begrudgingly punishing (directly or indirectly) the player who called them out.

However, this is a hard thing to prove anyway, so you shouldn't go around blindly accusing admins of being begrudging pieces of shit, because that won't lead you anywhere in the first place. In the case you don't have proof of that yourself, why assume the admins will hold a grudge against you? I wouldn't. I'd be like "Eh, what did I do to this guy?" but I'd then just deal with it and move on because acceptance is necessary to improve from our mistakes (100% confirmed true fact). I understand that maybe not every admin may see it the same way as I do, but I bet the majority of us just want to use that feedback to do stuff better. At the end of the day, we're not here because we enjoy the power trip (sometimes (many times) it's actually a fucking headache to admin), but because we want to improve the players' experience (or at least we try to).

When I went to college, there was a feedback system for students to leave feedback on their professors. Not only was this anonymous, but the school went to even greater lengths -- your review wasn't even released to the professors until after your final grades were submitted. This was so that they couldn't deduce who the student that reviewed them was, and then possibly grade them differently.

I share this for one reason: if the powers that be decided that bias is a significant enough of a risk to PhD college professors to both anonymize and delay the release of their reviews, what makes you think SS13 admins are anymore immune?

[Archie700]

/tg/ Admins do not affect your future prospects in the job market.

You're comparing a degree in college to bans from one ss13 server.

[TheRex9001]

lol, lmao even.