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Completely ignoring the entire thing what the hell did he mean by the last line.its a joke right? it has to be a joke
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Completely ignoring the entire thing what the hell did he mean by the last line.Timberpoes wrote: Lepi was right all along.
Size and behavior are absolutely "causal" and the rest of this is just irrelevant
This is like saying that poverty doesn't cause crime because "Some poor populations commit less crime than some rich populations" Completely incoherent logic
the statement "Men commit more crime than women because they're biologically inclined towards violence and aggression" is indisputably true, the existence of various socio-economic factors that result in crime don't change the reality of this
I'm not going to do that, I'm not in the discord.
Boy, I wonder how many fallacies this single reply has.Fren256 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 11:32 pmSee guys this is why we should befriend neo-nazisdendydoom wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 3:20 am the thing that will change you and better you in this regard is to make friends with everyone, even those you might disagree with. they will see you as a real person, not some political opposition that's dangerous to them, and you will see the same in them too, and both of you will grow from sharing your experiences and your struggles.
i'm glad you brought this up, thank you.Fren256 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 11:32 pmSee guys this is why we should befriend neo-nazisdendydoom wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 3:20 am the thing that will change you and better you in this regard is to make friends with everyone, even those you might disagree with. they will see you as a real person, not some political opposition that's dangerous to them, and you will see the same in them too, and both of you will grow from sharing your experiences and your struggles.
MrStonedOne wrote:I always read dendy's walls of text
bro you should read dendy she's spitting straight fireMrStonedOne wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 12:39 am Hey everybody, its nice to see some healthy debate about man's place in society but all of the crime statistics talk really smells like some "despite making up 13% ..." tier shit and i'm not sure why anybody thinks it's acceptable to justify bigotry with statistics given the whole point of being anti-bigotry is to stop erasing individuals with the stereotypes of their demographics.
There are a lot of walls of text i don't have the mental energy to read thru right now to figure out who needs a timeout so i'm just gonna suggest everybody relax on that a bit.
dendydoom wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 11:56 pmi'm glad you brought this up, thank you.Fren256 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 11:32 pmSee guys this is why we should befriend neo-nazisdendydoom wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 3:20 am the thing that will change you and better you in this regard is to make friends with everyone, even those you might disagree with. they will see you as a real person, not some political opposition that's dangerous to them, and you will see the same in them too, and both of you will grow from sharing your experiences and your struggles.
i'm not insinuating that anyone should be a doormat to intolerance and bigotry. righteous anger, acting in defence of people you care about and elevating the causes of others who face intolerance and oppression are noble causes.
my concern comes from the fact that while the internet is an incredible tool for communication, it strips the human element from its users and merges us all into an amorphous, ephemeral entity that becomes an easy opposition to point to and loses any sense of nuance or consideration for the complexity and depth of the person behind the screen.
what that sometimes means is showing an ounce of vulnerability is an opportunity to connect with you on a human level. to understand that in many ways our fears themselves come from a place of vulnerability, and to share that vulnerability helps us to expand our worldview and shed ignorance. it takes that amorphous, scary oppositional entity in someone's mind and replaces it with a real flesh and blood human being. the next time they may try to access that place of ignorance, in its stead they will see you, someone they now care about who is different to them, your struggles and your experiences, and they will think twice. an open palm is a tool with many uses, a fist can only do one thing.
obviously not everyone can do this in every situation with every person they meet. it is an example of one of many points of privilege to be able to do this, and if it brings you harm to open yourself up to people who display ignorance, then to protect yourself on that basis is a good choice that is part of your own journey. i am saying that when it's possible, it should be something to be seriously considered.
my mother is brown, and a first generation immigrant. she is the one who taught me these things. it just took me a good amount of years and a fair amount of my own mistakes to finally listen to her.
I always read dendy's walls of textSuper Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 1:15 ambro you should read dendy she's spitting straight fireMrStonedOne wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 12:39 am Hey everybody, its nice to see some healthy debate about man's place in society but all of the crime statistics talk really smells like some "despite making up 13% ..." tier shit and i'm not sure why anybody thinks it's acceptable to justify bigotry with statistics given the whole point of being anti-bigotry is to stop erasing individuals with the stereotypes of their demographics.
There are a lot of walls of text i don't have the mental energy to read thru right now to figure out who needs a timeout so i'm just gonna suggest everybody relax on that a bit.
I'd like to clarify that I do agree with what you've said so far, I just saw that sentence and I remembered it's used by centrists, so I had to make a sarcastic comment.dendydoom wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 11:56 pmi'm glad you brought this up, thank you.Fren256 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 11:32 pmSee guys this is why we should befriend neo-nazisdendydoom wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 3:20 am the thing that will change you and better you in this regard is to make friends with everyone, even those you might disagree with. they will see you as a real person, not some political opposition that's dangerous to them, and you will see the same in them too, and both of you will grow from sharing your experiences and your struggles.
i'm not insinuating that anyone should be a doormat to intolerance and bigotry. righteous anger, acting in defence of people you care about and elevating the causes of others who face intolerance and oppression are noble causes.
my concern comes from the fact that while the internet is an incredible tool for communication, it strips the human element from its users and merges us all into an amorphous, ephemeral entity that becomes an easy opposition to point to and loses any sense of nuance or consideration for the complexity and depth of the person behind the screen.
what that sometimes means is showing an ounce of vulnerability is an opportunity to connect with you on a human level. to understand that in many ways our fears themselves come from a place of vulnerability, and to share that vulnerability helps us to expand our worldview and shed ignorance. it takes that amorphous, scary oppositional entity in someone's mind and replaces it with a real flesh and blood human being. the next time they may try to access that place of ignorance, in its stead they will see you, someone they now care about who is different to them, your struggles and your experiences, and they will think twice. an open palm is a tool with many uses, a fist can only do one thing.
obviously not everyone can do this in every situation with every person they meet. it is an example of one of many points of privilege to be able to do this, and if it brings you harm to open yourself up to people who display ignorance, then to protect yourself on that basis is a good choice that is part of your own journey. i am saying that when it's possible, it should be something to be seriously considered.
my mother is brown, and a first generation immigrant. she is the one who taught me these things. it just took me a good amount of years and a fair amount of my own mistakes to finally listen to her.
Armhulen wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2023 11:08 pmThe Spessmen Times wrote:Prohibition agent Sam Salamander bragged that he could find a metacord in any server in under 30 minutes. In Bagil it took him 21 minutes. In Sybil 17 minutes, and Manuel just 11 minutes. But Terry set the record of 35 seconds. Sam asked an assistant on the arrivals shuttle where to get a discord invite, and the assistant linked him one.
RedBaronFlyer wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:52 pmIt would somehow manage to pick Birdshot Station for headmin if we did that
"Be open to good people. Be closed off to bad people."Fren256 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 6:25 amI'd like to clarify that I do agree with what you've said so far, I just saw that sentence and I remembered it's used by centrists, so I had to make a sarcastic comment.dendydoom wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 11:56 pmi'm glad you brought this up, thank you.Fren256 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 11:32 pmSee guys this is why we should befriend neo-nazisdendydoom wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 3:20 am the thing that will change you and better you in this regard is to make friends with everyone, even those you might disagree with. they will see you as a real person, not some political opposition that's dangerous to them, and you will see the same in them too, and both of you will grow from sharing your experiences and your struggles.
i'm not insinuating that anyone should be a doormat to intolerance and bigotry. righteous anger, acting in defence of people you care about and elevating the causes of others who face intolerance and oppression are noble causes.
my concern comes from the fact that while the internet is an incredible tool for communication, it strips the human element from its users and merges us all into an amorphous, ephemeral entity that becomes an easy opposition to point to and loses any sense of nuance or consideration for the complexity and depth of the person behind the screen.
what that sometimes means is showing an ounce of vulnerability is an opportunity to connect with you on a human level. to understand that in many ways our fears themselves come from a place of vulnerability, and to share that vulnerability helps us to expand our worldview and shed ignorance. it takes that amorphous, scary oppositional entity in someone's mind and replaces it with a real flesh and blood human being. the next time they may try to access that place of ignorance, in its stead they will see you, someone they now care about who is different to them, your struggles and your experiences, and they will think twice. an open palm is a tool with many uses, a fist can only do one thing.
obviously not everyone can do this in every situation with every person they meet. it is an example of one of many points of privilege to be able to do this, and if it brings you harm to open yourself up to people who display ignorance, then to protect yourself on that basis is a good choice that is part of your own journey. i am saying that when it's possible, it should be something to be seriously considered.
my mother is brown, and a first generation immigrant. she is the one who taught me these things. it just took me a good amount of years and a fair amount of my own mistakes to finally listen to her.
Taking bad people off the equation, keeping an open mind and meeting people with different thoughts, customs and ideals is very good advice, especially on the internet. It helps reinforce, or even transform, your own values through points of view and knowledge gained from outside perspectives.
Thank you for taking the time to expand your thoughts through my response, and I apologize if it came off as aggressive.
thank you so much for the kind words BONERMASTER! i'd be happy to be your friend. i'm a big fan of your posts too, they're always a treat to stumble upon.BONERMASTER wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 2:34 am I have added you to my friends list because of the posts you made in this thread. I had no idea that you were this based and really like how you're putting forth a very nuanced, open-minded worldview and encouraging everyone to see the other's point of view, so to speak.
Needless to say that I fully agree and there should be more of that in the world. Go Dendy!
With friendly regards
-BONERMASTER
there is no apology necessary, you brought up a valid point and i'm genuinely thankful that you did. thank you for coming back and reaching out.Fren256 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 6:25 am I'd like to clarify that I do agree with what you've said so far, I just saw that sentence and I remembered it's used by centrists, so I had to make a sarcastic comment.
Taking bad people off the equation, keeping an open mind and meeting people with different thoughts, customs and ideals is very good advice, especially on the internet. It helps reinforce, or even transform, your own values through points of view and knowledge gained from outside perspectives.
Thank you for taking the time to expand your thoughts through my response, and I apologize if it came off as aggressive.
thanks for posting that link! it was an enlightening and interesting read that i've not seen before.Boot wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 7:20 am "Be open to good people. Be closed off to bad people."
You don't need to make an effort to be open to good people. You already think they are good!!!
This whole meme of "online people may seem to be very easy to understand data points but each and every one of them is a unique human with a story all of their own that we can never know the nuances of so we should be open to that" doesn't have "but throw all that out the window if they are the out group because they are bad!" Stapled onto the end.
Edit:https://slatestarcodex.com/2014/09/30/i ... e-outgroup this is a good read about the topic.
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Armhulen wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2023 11:08 pmThe Spessmen Times wrote:Prohibition agent Sam Salamander bragged that he could find a metacord in any server in under 30 minutes. In Bagil it took him 21 minutes. In Sybil 17 minutes, and Manuel just 11 minutes. But Terry set the record of 35 seconds. Sam asked an assistant on the arrivals shuttle where to get a discord invite, and the assistant linked him one.
RedBaronFlyer wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:52 pmIt would somehow manage to pick Birdshot Station for headmin if we did that
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