Why do people hate being an antagonist on mrp?
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Why do people hate being an antagonist on mrp?
With IMMENSE discussion regarding friendtagging in the policy discussion section, i must ask yall.
Why do people hate being an antagonist on mrp?
I treat my antagonist status as a license to fuck with the crew and do many things that would normally not be allowed, such as making my own custom AI law set that kills people based on a vote, Build turrets with hellfire lasers and emag them, Poison people and watch as they scream and cry that they're going to die of amanitin, and all around get people to escalate in armament, whether it be researching weapon tech, getting guns at cargo, or carrying a stunbaton. Or the overdone joke of emagging a recycler.
You, as an antagonist are empowered to make living on a space station more dangerous, why are people throwing it away?
Why do people hate being an antagonist on mrp?
I treat my antagonist status as a license to fuck with the crew and do many things that would normally not be allowed, such as making my own custom AI law set that kills people based on a vote, Build turrets with hellfire lasers and emag them, Poison people and watch as they scream and cry that they're going to die of amanitin, and all around get people to escalate in armament, whether it be researching weapon tech, getting guns at cargo, or carrying a stunbaton. Or the overdone joke of emagging a recycler.
You, as an antagonist are empowered to make living on a space station more dangerous, why are people throwing it away?
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Re: Why do people hate being an antagonist on mrp?
what are these questions?
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Re: Why do people hate being an antagonist on mrp?
They really don't. They're just shit at being antags.
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Armhulen wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2023 11:08 pmThe Spessmen Times wrote:Prohibition agent Sam Salamander bragged that he could find a metacord in any server in under 30 minutes. In Bagil it took him 21 minutes. In Sybil 17 minutes, and Manuel just 11 minutes. But Terry set the record of 35 seconds. Sam asked an assistant on the arrivals shuttle where to get a discord invite, and the assistant linked him one.
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Re: Why do people hate being an antagonist on mrp?
It's not about hating being an antag, it's just that Manuel culture prefers to try to talk first shoot later, which causes an unfortunate sidemeta of friendtagging allowing you to delay your murder spree until the crew have accommodated you and gotten bored enough to lower their guard.
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Re: Why do people hate being an antagonist on mrp?
Loosened escalation rules are the fun part of rolling antag.
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Re: Why do people hate being an antagonist on mrp?
A big chunk of crew play characters that are super friendly and kind normally, so when they get antag they have trouble changing how their character acts. Personally with me I prefer the sneaky beeky playstyle so nobody notices I am an antag. I do like to do engineer craziness though. Disposals cannon anybody?
When I am a heretic I like acting all evil. Friendly heretics are cringe. You are being mind manipulated by a forgotten god for God's sake.
Wait.. I am sensing.. a rant!
PEOPLE IN MANUEL STOP ASKING ME NICELY IF YOU WANT TO SACRIFICE ME I WILL SAY NO EVERY TIME THEN START GETTING STUFF TO DEFEND MYSELF. JUST BAIT ME SOMEWHERE THEN KILL ME SUDDENLY. IT'S A MUCH MORE INTERESTING EXPERIENCE THAN: "Hey... Want to be sacrificed? No? Ookay.. I will reroll it then!" CRINGEE. THAT HAS HAPPENED FAR TOO MANY TIMES. ITS MORE INTERESTING FOR ME TO HAVE A PERSON JUMP OUT OF A LOCKER AND SCARE ME THAN THAT!
now watch manuelites jump out of lockers without any intent to harm me just to scare me
Now. I do realise I have fallen for that trap of asking nicely. It can be done well but I know I haven't done it well that one time I did it so here it is:
From now on when I am a heretic. Even if you are my friend I will go all out with the crazies and fight you. Only when I have enough power to handle sec, though. I like being all sneeeky at first. There will be no asking nicely. Just declarations that YOU are my target and YOU must die. Much more cool, ain't it?
When I am a heretic I like acting all evil. Friendly heretics are cringe. You are being mind manipulated by a forgotten god for God's sake.
Wait.. I am sensing.. a rant!
PEOPLE IN MANUEL STOP ASKING ME NICELY IF YOU WANT TO SACRIFICE ME I WILL SAY NO EVERY TIME THEN START GETTING STUFF TO DEFEND MYSELF. JUST BAIT ME SOMEWHERE THEN KILL ME SUDDENLY. IT'S A MUCH MORE INTERESTING EXPERIENCE THAN: "Hey... Want to be sacrificed? No? Ookay.. I will reroll it then!" CRINGEE. THAT HAS HAPPENED FAR TOO MANY TIMES. ITS MORE INTERESTING FOR ME TO HAVE A PERSON JUMP OUT OF A LOCKER AND SCARE ME THAN THAT!
now watch manuelites jump out of lockers without any intent to harm me just to scare me
Now. I do realise I have fallen for that trap of asking nicely. It can be done well but I know I haven't done it well that one time I did it so here it is:
From now on when I am a heretic. Even if you are my friend I will go all out with the crazies and fight you. Only when I have enough power to handle sec, though. I like being all sneeeky at first. There will be no asking nicely. Just declarations that YOU are my target and YOU must die. Much more cool, ain't it?
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Re: Why do people hate being an antagonist on mrp?
friendly antagonists are stupid. and you know what? greentexting is stupid too.
guess what happens in the majority of satisfying stories? the bad guys lose and the good guys win. roll antag, go in with a plan, make it good, and die trying. meekly trying to ask people for a win or tryharding and scurrying around all shift wordlessly checking off objectives are both low effort and contribute little to the round.
guess what happens in the majority of satisfying stories? the bad guys lose and the good guys win. roll antag, go in with a plan, make it good, and die trying. meekly trying to ask people for a win or tryharding and scurrying around all shift wordlessly checking off objectives are both low effort and contribute little to the round.
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Re: Why do people hate being an antagonist on mrp?
Manuel is not MRP: it's peaceful mode LRP
More genuinely:
MRP should mean more thrills, action, and excitement because there are stakes behind things happening... that's not what Manuel culture is really about
More genuinely:
MRP should mean more thrills, action, and excitement because there are stakes behind things happening... that's not what Manuel culture is really about
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Re: Why do people hate being an antagonist on mrp?
I wouldn't agree with that, there's still plenty of murder and conflictBawhoppennn wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 1:07 am Manuel is not MRP: it's peaceful mode LRP
More genuinely:
MRP should mean more thrills, action, and excitement because there are stakes behind things happening... that's not what Manuel culture is really about
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Re: Why do people hate being an antagonist on mrp?
I do this on sybil, I went on a rant and the first sentence i get out turns out the captain is a ling
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Re: Why do people hate being an antagonist on mrp?
ive seen some good antag roleplay on manuel but most of the time it's insta-funnyhand you're round removed. i dont know what these guys are talking about friendtagging, maybe i don't have enough friends to notice it.
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Re: Why do people hate being an antagonist on mrp?
I don't hate being an antagonist but I try to avoid it when I can. I'm not entirely sure why, but I prefer being a prey in a hunter situation. To me it's way more fun to have to find your way out of a dangerous situation as opposed to making the dangerous situation yourself. I have way more game knowledge in regards to ways to hide or psych people out to get away from a super dangerous threat, but I don't really have that when playing as an antagonist. Granted, it doesn't help that 90% of my antagonist rounds are being a converted revolutionary or cultist that either gets converted right as the revolution/cult are about to win or about to die.
It kind of goes in line with how I play as a normal crewmember, very rarely in the action and usually more on the backlines (running lasers up to the frontlines, recharging guns while people fight, dragging wounded/dead back to medical, etc.) The most amount of crew members I've been directly involved with killing in a single round is probably, like, four or five during a cult round where we killed the security raiding party.
Also, it's super fucking embarrassing to die pathetically as an antagonist compared to when you're a normal crew member.
It kind of goes in line with how I play as a normal crewmember, very rarely in the action and usually more on the backlines (running lasers up to the frontlines, recharging guns while people fight, dragging wounded/dead back to medical, etc.) The most amount of crew members I've been directly involved with killing in a single round is probably, like, four or five during a cult round where we killed the security raiding party.
Also, it's super fucking embarrassing to die pathetically as an antagonist compared to when you're a normal crew member.
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Super Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 5:11 pm I assume he did it elsewhere because it's fucking goofball and he never half-asses his shitty ideas, he full asses them so both cheeks are absolutely slathered in shit
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Re: Why do people hate being an antagonist on mrp?
You should try antag more if it's embarrassment holding you back.RedBaronFlyer wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 2:03 am I don't hate being an antagonist but I try to avoid it when I can. I'm not entirely sure why, but I prefer being a prey in a hunter situation. To me it's way more fun to have to find your way out of a dangerous situation as opposed to making the dangerous situation yourself. I have way more game knowledge in regards to ways to hide or psych people out to get away from a super dangerous threat, but I don't really have that when playing as an antagonist. Granted, it doesn't help that 90% of my antagonist rounds are being a converted revolutionary or cultist that either gets converted right as the revolution/cult are about to win or about to die.
It kind of goes in line with how I play as a normal crewmember, very rarely in the action and usually more on the backlines (running lasers up to the frontlines, recharging guns while people fight, dragging wounded/dead back to medical, etc.) The most amount of crew members I've been directly involved with killing in a single round is probably, like, four or five during a cult round where we killed the security raiding party.
Also, it's super fucking embarrassing to die pathetically as an antagonist compared to when you're a normal crew member.
Let me share you a story. Cecilia Vujic, heretic, sacced 5 crew, ascended.
Attacks a clown after they say "fight me bitch", clown commits suicide and blows me up. An hour of work gone in 5 seconds.
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Re: Why do people hate being an antagonist on mrp?
I don't like antag rounds going on for longer than necessary. I like to just do my gimmick and go out in a blaze of glory. I can't guarantee having a microbombs in me at all times so I just don't play it.
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Re: Why do people hate being an antagonist on mrp?
To be fair, you basically already won if you ascended. The rest of the round was basically your post-victory slaughter.vect0r wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 4:23 amYou should try antag more if it's embarrassment holding you back.RedBaronFlyer wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 2:03 am I don't hate being an antagonist but I try to avoid it when I can. I'm not entirely sure why, but I prefer being a prey in a hunter situation. To me it's way more fun to have to find your way out of a dangerous situation as opposed to making the dangerous situation yourself. I have way more game knowledge in regards to ways to hide or psych people out to get away from a super dangerous threat, but I don't really have that when playing as an antagonist. Granted, it doesn't help that 90% of my antagonist rounds are being a converted revolutionary or cultist that either gets converted right as the revolution/cult are about to win or about to die.
It kind of goes in line with how I play as a normal crewmember, very rarely in the action and usually more on the backlines (running lasers up to the frontlines, recharging guns while people fight, dragging wounded/dead back to medical, etc.) The most amount of crew members I've been directly involved with killing in a single round is probably, like, four or five during a cult round where we killed the security raiding party.
Also, it's super fucking embarrassing to die pathetically as an antagonist compared to when you're a normal crew member.
Let me share you a story. Cecilia Vujic, heretic, sacced 5 crew, ascended.
Attacks a clown after they say "fight me bitch", clown commits suicide and blows me up. An hour of work gone in 5 seconds.
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Re: Why do people hate being an antagonist on mrp?
to be fair i haven’t played in mrp since the policy was revised, but it was pretty annoying feeling like I had to watch my step all the time. It felt harder to be “spontaneously antagonistic”
The social pressures and meta cliques definitely don’t help with that aspect either.
The social pressures and meta cliques definitely don’t help with that aspect either.
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Re: Why do people hate being an antagonist on mrp?
No, I know, I am just saying that we all have embarrassing moments, and playing antag is fun if you learn to embrace the dumb ways you die.Archie700 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:39 amTo be fair, you basically already won if you ascended. The rest of the round was basically your post-victory slaughter.vect0r wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 4:23 amYou should try antag more if it's embarrassment holding you back.RedBaronFlyer wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 2:03 am I don't hate being an antagonist but I try to avoid it when I can. I'm not entirely sure why, but I prefer being a prey in a hunter situation. To me it's way more fun to have to find your way out of a dangerous situation as opposed to making the dangerous situation yourself. I have way more game knowledge in regards to ways to hide or psych people out to get away from a super dangerous threat, but I don't really have that when playing as an antagonist. Granted, it doesn't help that 90% of my antagonist rounds are being a converted revolutionary or cultist that either gets converted right as the revolution/cult are about to win or about to die.
It kind of goes in line with how I play as a normal crewmember, very rarely in the action and usually more on the backlines (running lasers up to the frontlines, recharging guns while people fight, dragging wounded/dead back to medical, etc.) The most amount of crew members I've been directly involved with killing in a single round is probably, like, four or five during a cult round where we killed the security raiding party.
Also, it's super fucking embarrassing to die pathetically as an antagonist compared to when you're a normal crew member.
Let me share you a story. Cecilia Vujic, heretic, sacced 5 crew, ascended.
Attacks a clown after they say "fight me bitch", clown commits suicide and blows me up. An hour of work gone in 5 seconds.
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Re: Why do people hate being an antagonist on mrp?
Tell me Manuel security is unrobust without telling me Manuel security is unrobust.RedBaronFlyer wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 2:03 am I have way more game knowledge in regards to ways to hide or psych people out to get away from a super dangerous threat, but I don't really have that when playing as an antagonist
I've had plenty of exciting pursuits of antagonists as HOS on Terry. I am not in danger, valid, I am the danger.
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Re: Why do people hate being an antagonist on mrp?
i should roll antag more youre rightvect0r wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 4:23 amYou should try antag more if it's embarrassment holding you back.RedBaronFlyer wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 2:03 am I don't hate being an antagonist but I try to avoid it when I can. I'm not entirely sure why, but I prefer being a prey in a hunter situation. To me it's way more fun to have to find your way out of a dangerous situation as opposed to making the dangerous situation yourself. I have way more game knowledge in regards to ways to hide or psych people out to get away from a super dangerous threat, but I don't really have that when playing as an antagonist. Granted, it doesn't help that 90% of my antagonist rounds are being a converted revolutionary or cultist that either gets converted right as the revolution/cult are about to win or about to die.
It kind of goes in line with how I play as a normal crewmember, very rarely in the action and usually more on the backlines (running lasers up to the frontlines, recharging guns while people fight, dragging wounded/dead back to medical, etc.) The most amount of crew members I've been directly involved with killing in a single round is probably, like, four or five during a cult round where we killed the security raiding party.
Also, it's super fucking embarrassing to die pathetically as an antagonist compared to when you're a normal crew member.
Let me share you a story. Cecilia Vujic, heretic, sacced 5 crew, ascended.
Attacks a clown after they say "fight me bitch", clown commits suicide and blows me up. An hour of work gone in 5 seconds.
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Re: Why do people hate being an antagonist on mrp?
same reason people turn antag off, it’s more stress because your round is sacred now so the stakes are greater if you dieLongestarmlonglaw wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 10:22 pm You, as an antagonist are empowered to make living on a space station more dangerous, why are people throwing it away?
no one wants to be the guy that gets wordlessly batonged in the first 5min, arming sec with 20 TC
but it’s boring to turn antag off, so some people just keep it on but play it like they’re nonantag to get the fun of antag without any of the stress or stakes
it’s their antag round so fair enough. you can do what you want with it
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Re: Why do people hate being an antagonist on mrp?
My brother in Christ I play janitor and cargo tech. Not everyone plays security, and you don’t tend to get into ‘tard death spirals over getting pushed in a hallway on MRP.ekaterina wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 1:56 pmTell me Manuel security is unrobust without telling me Manuel security is unrobust.RedBaronFlyer wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 2:03 am I have way more game knowledge in regards to ways to hide or psych people out to get away from a super dangerous threat, but I don't really have that when playing as an antagonist
I've had plenty of exciting pursuits of antagonists as HOS on Terry. I am not in danger, valid, I am the danger.
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Super Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 5:11 pm I assume he did it elsewhere because it's fucking goofball and he never half-asses his shitty ideas, he full asses them so both cheeks are absolutely slathered in shit
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Re: Why do people hate being an antagonist on mrp?
lmao
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Re: Why do people hate being an antagonist on mrp?
good to see this thread be productive and not go the way of all other threads where people who don't play mrp say how much they hate it because it's pure evil and unfun for x reason and then all the actual players try fruitlessly to say that x doesn't actually happen
i'd hate it if this thread turned out like those
i'd hate it if this thread turned out like those
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Re: Why do people hate being an antagonist on mrp?
I don't play antag because the last time I was heretic I was personally attacked as a person and an admin when I ascended. This was after another confrontation a few days before because I acquired somewhat hefty body count as a traitor. I don't like constantly arguing with people who suffer from a severe skill issue, and don't remember core rule 10 exists.
GRANTED: The social environment might be a bit different, it's been a while since I played consistently. That's just the reason why I stopped trying to play solo antag.
Now I just be gay and do petty crime. (I'll still play antag on LRP, or team antag like cult or nukies)
GRANTED: The social environment might be a bit different, it's been a while since I played consistently. That's just the reason why I stopped trying to play solo antag.
Now I just be gay and do petty crime. (I'll still play antag on LRP, or team antag like cult or nukies)
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Re: Why do people hate being an antagonist on mrp?
The difference is MRP will typically write an essay complaining about how the LRP players stereotype of MRP being a peaceful sandbox where everyone is kind to each other and gives each other pats on the head with no killing allowed is inaccurate because some rounds are peaceful and some aren’t.dendydoom wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:42 pm good to see this thread be productive and not go the way of all other threads where people who don't play mrp say how much they hate it because it's pure evil and unfun for x reason and then all the actual players try fruitlessly to say that x doesn't actually happen
i'd hate it if this thread turned out like those
Meanwhile LRP players typically respond with “yes, and?” when LRP is stereotyped as being a violent death match every shift by MRP players.
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Super Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 5:11 pm I assume he did it elsewhere because it's fucking goofball and he never half-asses his shitty ideas, he full asses them so both cheeks are absolutely slathered in shit
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Re: Why do people hate being an antagonist on mrp?
this is pretty common on LRP too in my experience, altho maybe it’s worse on MRP because it’s closer knit and drags into the discord afterDrag wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:48 pm I don't play antag because the last time I was heretic I was personally attacked as a person and an admin when I ascended. This was after another confrontation a few days before because I acquired somewhat hefty body count as a traitor. I don't like constantly arguing with people who suffer from a severe skill issue, and don't remember core rule 10 exists.
my recommendation is to simply not engage. they’re angy and there’s nothing you can say to help them get over it
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Re: Why do people hate being an antagonist on mrp?
Based.RedBaronFlyer wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:50 pm Meanwhile LRP players typically respond with “yes, and?” when LRP is stereotyped as being a violent death match every shift by MRP players.
Doesn't matter. For me to be chasing someone as sec, someone has to be chased, who can have any kind of job.RedBaronFlyer wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:16 pm My brother in Christ I play janitor and cargo tech. Not everyone plays security,
Yes, and?RedBaronFlyer wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:16 pm [LRP tends] to get into ‘tard death spirals over getting pushed in a hallway
MRP gamer cries about the lack of conflict, then boasts about not having conflict like LRP.
I've never tried Manuel but I have tried fulp, which is MRP, and I imagine Manuel has the same problems. People like to crap on fulp's admins but the admins aren't even the worst part of fulp. Horatio is not perfect but he's a fairly good headmin. The problem is everything else - the admins are just enforcing the rules, which in turn are one of the problems. The rules are too restrictive (like Manuel), the players are unrobust (like Manuel), interesting stuff barely ever happens (like Manuel?), you either have to play security or get victimised by powertripping security... you don't even have better RP, Sybil has better RP than you, the difference is that you're playing on peaceful mode.
I have a confirmed grand total of 1 merged PR. That basically means I'm a c*der now.
sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 2:03 am Marina is actually a very high quality roleplayer, believe it or not, and a pretty fun and good-faith player in my experience.
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I can't believe admins exist to enforce the rules, this just like British society but dystopian.
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Super Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 5:11 pm I assume he did it elsewhere because it's fucking goofball and he never half-asses his shitty ideas, he full asses them so both cheeks are absolutely slathered in shit
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aight good post dude thanks for proving my point.
tribalism is pointless. you prefer lrp: i respect that. it doesn't mean mrp is the opposite of all that you find good and decent and so infringes on your ability to enjoy what you enjoy. it's lrp with a few more rules around conflict thrown in so that people have more opportunities to talk before getting put on ice. that's it. acting like it's anything more than that is melodramatic nonsense (something which you claim to come from mrp players, but here we are seeing it from an lrp player. could it be that we're not so different after all?)
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Could it maybe be that LRP also has some more peaceful shifts? And could it be that you are focusing on a small minority of LRP players? In my own experience the MRP and LRP communities are very quick to stereotype the other whilst being very fucking similar. Really we should just be the TG community and not just draw arbitrary lines due to some extra rules and a single shift in one letter.RedBaronFlyer wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:50 pmThe difference is MRP will typically write an essay complaining about how the LRP players stereotype of MRP being a peaceful sandbox where everyone is kind to each other and gives each other pats on the head with no killing allowed is inaccurate because some rounds are peaceful and some aren’t.dendydoom wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:42 pm good to see this thread be productive and not go the way of all other threads where people who don't play mrp say how much they hate it because it's pure evil and unfun for x reason and then all the actual players try fruitlessly to say that x doesn't actually happen
i'd hate it if this thread turned out like those
Meanwhile LRP players typically respond with “yes, and?” when LRP is stereotyped as being a violent death match every shift by MRP players.
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Imagine catapulting dead horses over an imaginary wall into a region of TG you don't even go to lmao
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Armhulen wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2023 11:08 pmThe Spessmen Times wrote:Prohibition agent Sam Salamander bragged that he could find a metacord in any server in under 30 minutes. In Bagil it took him 21 minutes. In Sybil 17 minutes, and Manuel just 11 minutes. But Terry set the record of 35 seconds. Sam asked an assistant on the arrivals shuttle where to get a discord invite, and the assistant linked him one.
RedBaronFlyer wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:52 pmIt would somehow manage to pick Birdshot Station for headmin if we did that
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Double posting 'cos I wanna join the bandwagon.
Fuck event hall. Stupid server is so bad it's not even on anymore.
Fuck event hall. Stupid server is so bad it's not even on anymore.
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Armhulen wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2023 11:08 pmThe Spessmen Times wrote:Prohibition agent Sam Salamander bragged that he could find a metacord in any server in under 30 minutes. In Bagil it took him 21 minutes. In Sybil 17 minutes, and Manuel just 11 minutes. But Terry set the record of 35 seconds. Sam asked an assistant on the arrivals shuttle where to get a discord invite, and the assistant linked him one.
RedBaronFlyer wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:52 pmIt would somehow manage to pick Birdshot Station for headmin if we did that
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No I'll just go to event hall related forum threads and say it's dogshit even though I never ever played a single round there.TheRex9001 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 9:12 pmJust you wait, ehall will rise again and when the tide cometh you will run for the mountain of ehall
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Armhulen wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2023 11:08 pmThe Spessmen Times wrote:Prohibition agent Sam Salamander bragged that he could find a metacord in any server in under 30 minutes. In Bagil it took him 21 minutes. In Sybil 17 minutes, and Manuel just 11 minutes. But Terry set the record of 35 seconds. Sam asked an assistant on the arrivals shuttle where to get a discord invite, and the assistant linked him one.
RedBaronFlyer wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:52 pmIt would somehow manage to pick Birdshot Station for headmin if we did that
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to be fair there was some interesting discussion until you derailed it by responding to ekaterina bait.dendydoom wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:42 pm good to see this thread be productive and not go the way of all other threads where people who don't play mrp say how much they hate it because it's pure evil and unfun for x reason and then all the actual players try fruitlessly to say that x doesn't actually happen
i'd hate it if this thread turned out like those
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We do and we hate them. Everyone not working on some atmos/xeno project (where you don't even notice the round unfold) is bored to hell until someone inevitably self-antags.TheRex9001 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 9:06 pm Could it maybe be that LRP also has some more peaceful shifts?
If it's anything like fulp, yes it does. SS13 without conflict is like a car without an engine. A round without proper antagonists is like a car without gas.
From what I read on the forums, tg MRP plays like the living hell that is LRP greenshift, but every round.
I thought that "are" would've let any English speaker know I meant the rules are the problem. Nice reading comprehension, bruv.
Way to ignore the important part.
I have a confirmed grand total of 1 merged PR. That basically means I'm a c*der now.
sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 2:03 am Marina is actually a very high quality roleplayer, believe it or not, and a pretty fun and good-faith player in my experience.
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I’ll also note here that you don’t speak for every LRP player, if you dislike greenshifts thats completly fine but not everyone does, I like em cause I get time to experiment with stuff without as much chaos and it makes those chaotic rounds even more special.ekaterina wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 9:25 pmWe do and we hate them. Everyone not working on some atmos-type project (where you don't even notice the round unfold) is bored to hell until someone inevitably self-antagsTheRex9001 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 9:06 pm Could it maybe be that LRP also has some more peaceful shifts?
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You gotta remember that Ekaterina's forum persona is an delusional arrogant that believes they're the standard humanity should follow.TheRex9001 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 9:29 pmI’ll also note here that you don’t speak for every LRP player, if you dislike greenshifts thats completly fine but not everyone does, I like em cause I get time to experiment with stuff without as much chaos and it makes those chaotic rounds even more special.ekaterina wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 9:25 pmWe do and we hate them. Everyone not working on some atmos-type project (where you don't even notice the round unfold) is bored to hell until someone inevitably self-antagsTheRex9001 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 9:06 pm Could it maybe be that LRP also has some more peaceful shifts?
If it looks like bait, flies like bait and quacks like bait, don't go ahead and test if it tastes like bait.
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Armhulen wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2023 11:08 pmThe Spessmen Times wrote:Prohibition agent Sam Salamander bragged that he could find a metacord in any server in under 30 minutes. In Bagil it took him 21 minutes. In Sybil 17 minutes, and Manuel just 11 minutes. But Terry set the record of 35 seconds. Sam asked an assistant on the arrivals shuttle where to get a discord invite, and the assistant linked him one.
RedBaronFlyer wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:52 pmIt would somehow manage to pick Birdshot Station for headmin if we did that
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you're right, i should've known better...oranges wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 9:21 pmto be fair there was some interesting discussion until you derailed it by responding to ekaterina bait.dendydoom wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:42 pm good to see this thread be productive and not go the way of all other threads where people who don't play mrp say how much they hate it because it's pure evil and unfun for x reason and then all the actual players try fruitlessly to say that x doesn't actually happen
i'd hate it if this thread turned out like those
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This happened to me once too.Drag wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:48 pm I don't play antag because the last time I was heretic I was personally attacked as a person and an admin when I ascended. This was after another confrontation a few days before because I acquired somewhat hefty body count as a traitor. I don't like constantly arguing with people who suffer from a severe skill issue, and don't remember core rule 10 exists.
I soon realised that player was not a good player to play with anyway. I continued turning on antag to spite them.
Some days I have it off because I don't feel like being evil that day. When I am antag I want to make an impact. (Even if it's to one or two players) If I'm not feeling it it always falls flat.
Tip guys. My most memorable rounds are when an atag picks on me specifically and messes with me for a bit and nobody else. Kidnapping, just fucking with my office non stop, etcetera. Picking on a single person is an easy way to be an evil antag without dealing with a crowd. Try it!
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i dont like being the secret role in social deduction games either
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Player who complainted over being killed for looting cap office wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2023 1:33 am Hey there, I'm Virescent, the super evil person who made the stupid appeal and didn't think it through enough. Just came here to say: screech, retards. Screech and writhe like the worms you are. Your pathetic little cries will keep echoing around for a while before quietting down. There is one great outcome from this: I rised up the blood pressure of some of you shitheads and lowered your lifespan. I'm honestly tempted to do this more often just to see you screech and writhe more, but that wouldn't be cool of me. So come on haters, show me some more of your high blood pressure please.
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Tribalism is pretty natural, plus you have the aspect that only a tiny percentage of players will frequently play both MRP and LRP. This, in turn, creates separation. Similar to how a singular lizard species dropped onto two islands will eventually become two different species given enough time, even if the islands are somewhat nearby, and especially if the islands are different in terrain, food, predators, prey, etc. Given that the LRP and MRP players are separate, this leads to a “us-versus-them” mentality.TheRex9001 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 9:06 pmCould it maybe be that LRP also has some more peaceful shifts? And could it be that you are focusing on a small minority of LRP players? In my own experience the MRP and LRP communities are very quick to stereotype the other whilst being very fucking similar. Really we should just be the TG community and not just draw arbitrary lines due to some extra rules and a single shift in one letter.RedBaronFlyer wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:50 pmThe difference is MRP will typically write an essay complaining about how the LRP players stereotype of MRP being a peaceful sandbox where everyone is kind to each other and gives each other pats on the head with no killing allowed is inaccurate because some rounds are peaceful and some aren’t.dendydoom wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:42 pm good to see this thread be productive and not go the way of all other threads where people who don't play mrp say how much they hate it because it's pure evil and unfun for x reason and then all the actual players try fruitlessly to say that x doesn't actually happen
i'd hate it if this thread turned out like those
Meanwhile LRP players typically respond with “yes, and?” when LRP is stereotyped as being a violent death match every shift by MRP players.
For instance, the most common thing I can think of is how LRP players have accused (rightfully or wrongly) the admins of trying to convert LRP to MRP or to kill the “traditional culture” (read: culture when I started playing) or spirit of LRP.
Meanwhile MRP players accuse LRP players (rightfully or wrongly) of essentially safari hunting by playing on Manuel specifically to dunk on the less robust player base.
Even if the rules were the same you’d still have cultural differences. I imagine there is some cultural shock that would occur if you forced a LRP player to play on MRP for a month, and likewise a MRP player forced to play on LRP for a month.
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Super Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 5:11 pm I assume he did it elsewhere because it's fucking goofball and he never half-asses his shitty ideas, he full asses them so both cheeks are absolutely slathered in shit
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I have to interrupt this intellectual discussion for a sec to just say the idea of antagrollers “Manuel-poaching” is fucking hilarious. Like fuckin sheep grazing on the grass (job content) looking up blankly before getting instantly noscoped by the 16 year old adderall filled Russian femboy on his 3rd monster at 5amRedBaronFlyer wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 7:56 am Meanwhile MRP players accuse LRP players (rightfully or wrongly) of essentially safari hunting by playing on Manuel specifically to dunk on the less robust player base.
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sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 8:21 amI have to interrupt this intellectual discussion for a sec to just say the idea of antagrollers “Manuel-poaching” is fucking hilarious. Like fuckin sheep grazing on the grass (job content) looking up blankly before getting instantly noscoped by the 16 year old adderall filled Russian femboy on his 3rd monster at 5amRedBaronFlyer wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 7:56 am Meanwhile MRP players accuse LRP players (rightfully or wrongly) of essentially safari hunting by playing on Manuel specifically to dunk on the less robust player base.
I mean you aren’t wrong.
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Super Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 5:11 pm I assume he did it elsewhere because it's fucking goofball and he never half-asses his shitty ideas, he full asses them so both cheeks are absolutely slathered in shit
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LOL that's a beautiful mental imagesinfulbliss wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 8:21 amI have to interrupt this intellectual discussion for a sec to just say the idea of antagrollers “Manuel-poaching” is fucking hilarious. Like fuckin sheep grazing on the grass (job content) looking up blankly before getting instantly noscoped by the 16 year old adderall filled Russian femboy on his 3rd monster at 5amRedBaronFlyer wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 7:56 am Meanwhile MRP players accuse LRP players (rightfully or wrongly) of essentially safari hunting by playing on Manuel specifically to dunk on the less robust player base.
honestly we have our own combat tryhards that both antag roll and run sec. yeah, there are ~roleplayers~ who abhor combat and try to avoid it, but i'm sure there are players on lrp too who don't just play to get in fights and enjoy other aspects of the game. a common argument from mad players in manuel dchat is "wow and they call this mrp?" just because they died. the two are really not all that different, all things considered.
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A long time ago I was forced to play MRP for 3 months before going back to LRP, the most difficult thing to adjust to were your actions being magnified.RedBaronFlyer wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 7:56 am I imagine there is some cultural shock that would occur if you forced a LRP player to play on MRP for a month, and likewise a MRP player forced to play on LRP for a month.
For instance on LRP you can pretty much act however you want (within the rules). The chemist blows up the dispenser like every round, toxins floods their department like every round, people are screaming random shit because they have brain damage IC (or OOC), a 4-way nonantag brawl breaks out in the main halls, someone shot themselves with the Russian Revolver 5 min into the round… You can do or say anything and blend in fine.
On MRP things are much more controlled. Plasmaflooding toxins by accident is like, a MASSIVE fuck-up, you WILL be hearing about that later on the Mannycord . How you talk is how you roleplay so interactions are treated a bit more seriously, particularly because the goal is for them to end up little roleplay scenes.
MRP has good mechanical players just like LRP does, and LRP has good roleplayers just like MRP does, it’s more about individuals than servers really. It’s literally just a handful of people on every server who make up the extrema, and everyone understands that. It’s just more fun for people to be like YOU WOULDNT LAST 3 FUCKING HOURS IN MY WORLD, PAL, I LIVE IN THE FUCKING HOOD MY ALARM CLOCK IS GUNFIRE ROLEPLAY WITH MY .44 HUGBOXER.dendydoom wrote:honestly we have our own combat tryhards that both antag roll and run sec.
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No way sinful, mentioning the mannycord? I heard if you piss the wrong people off, they'll shittalk and meta grudge you and overall make your life playing Manuel a bit more difficult.
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lmao, honestly, 100% agree. what a beautiful culture we have, ey?sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 9:19 am MRP has good mechanical players just like LRP does, and LRP has good roleplayers just like MRP does, it’s more about individuals than servers really. It’s literally just a handful of people on every server who make up the extrema, and everyone understands that. It’s just more fun for people to be like YOU WOULDNT LAST 3 FUCKING HOURS IN MY WORLD, PAL, I LIVE IN THE FUCKING HOOD MY ALARM CLOCK IS GUNFIRE ROLEPLAY WITH MY .44 HUGBOXER.
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