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Re: Officer asks roboticist to show it all (peanut)
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Edit: Actually no, it's very creepy they kept sending messages to the same person, and an asshole move doing it through someone else's PDA. Manuel's gossip is already bad as it is, being tagged as a pervert because of another shitter's actions would be horrible.
Edit: Actually no, it's very creepy they kept sending messages to the same person, and an asshole move doing it through someone else's PDA. Manuel's gossip is already bad as it is, being tagged as a pervert because of another shitter's actions would be horrible.
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Holy SHIT what a horrible ban. And backed by a headmin too! Y’all have completely lost sight of rule 8 at this point, it’s almost comical.
Alternatively: this would be laughed at by admins on LRP. What is it with Manuelmins and having zero sense of humor about anything remotely close to offensive? Only hugbox approved knock knock jokes allowed
This is extremely fucking real, and he is 100% right about everything he said here. Y’all need to lighten up and realize this is a videogame, “send nudes” sent from a stolen PDA is so inoffensive and harmless, I’m convinced at this point the goal isn’t to make the servers a better place but to just be a hardass for the hell of being a hardass. Probably the worst ban I’ve seen in a long time.I didn't think this qualified as ERP at all. I'm not making my 2D space man fuck another 2D space man. I said send nudes. You all are acting like I opened pandora's box though, which is why I'm confused on why this is a perma ban and not a warning or even a temp ban. If I had known just fucking saying send nudes a couple of times qualified a perma ban I most likely wouldn't have said it, but because the atmosphere of the game is inherently ridiculous, I didn't think that was an issue. So when I was contacted about it and you said you've got a better joke, I'm not gonna fight it, because I know you've probably already decided on what you'd do. That's how you guys operate.
Alternatively: this would be laughed at by admins on LRP. What is it with Manuelmins and having zero sense of humor about anything remotely close to offensive? Only hugbox approved knock knock jokes allowed
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Nah, Sinful. When we say "Restrictions around Rule 8 need to be loosened when it's harmless innuendo and jokes, but should stay when it becomes Sexual Harassment" this is pretty clearly it falling into the latter.
If he sent it to them once, that'd be fine. A little fucky wucky (given it's someone else's PDA, thus involving someone without their consent), but I'd say "just tell them not to do it again and move on." If it was someone to their friend on their own PDA I'd say there's literally zero problems with it.
But this is someone using someone else's PDA to send that MULTIPLE times. That showed up in the logs like, 5-6 times, and at that point it's no longer really a harmless joke or innuendo and can totally become sexual harassment. I wouldn't say someone's overreacting to say that they're a little uncomfortable about it.
If he sent it to them once, that'd be fine. A little fucky wucky (given it's someone else's PDA, thus involving someone without their consent), but I'd say "just tell them not to do it again and move on." If it was someone to their friend on their own PDA I'd say there's literally zero problems with it.
But this is someone using someone else's PDA to send that MULTIPLE times. That showed up in the logs like, 5-6 times, and at that point it's no longer really a harmless joke or innuendo and can totally become sexual harassment. I wouldn't say someone's overreacting to say that they're a little uncomfortable about it.
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I don't even understand why it's a bigger issue if it's attempting to pin this on someone else ic.
Are we suddenly gonna be worried about the consent of the captain if we see that he left the comms console logged in?
I play medical doctor and corner as a non-human you have no idea how many times I've snagged a human's PDA just so I could message the AI for some order or just to cause some drama.
This whole idea of "think about the perception of their static how could you be doing that you know what a monster you are timber ban him right away" is laughable.
Are we suddenly gonna be worried about the consent of the captain if we see that he left the comms console logged in?
I play medical doctor and corner as a non-human you have no idea how many times I've snagged a human's PDA just so I could message the AI for some order or just to cause some drama.
This whole idea of "think about the perception of their static how could you be doing that you know what a monster you are timber ban him right away" is laughable.
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sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 7:47 am Holy SHIT what a horrible ban. And backed by a headmin too! Y’all have completely lost sight of rule 8 at this point, it’s almost comical.
This is extremely fucking real, and he is 100% right about everything he said here. Y’all need to lighten up and realize this is a videogame, “send nudes” sent from a stolen PDA is so inoffensive and harmless, I’m convinced at this point the goal isn’t to make the servers a better place but to just be a hardass for the hell of being a hardass. Probably the worst ban I’ve seen in a long time.I didn't think this qualified as ERP at all. I'm not making my 2D space man fuck another 2D space man. I said send nudes. You all are acting like I opened pandora's box though, which is why I'm confused on why this is a perma ban and not a warning or even a temp ban. If I had known just fucking saying send nudes a couple of times qualified a perma ban I most likely wouldn't have said it, but because the atmosphere of the game is inherently ridiculous, I didn't think that was an issue. So when I was contacted about it and you said you've got a better joke, I'm not gonna fight it, because I know you've probably already decided on what you'd do. That's how you guys operate.
Alternatively: this would be laughed at by admins on LRP. What is it with Manuelmins and having zero sense of humor about anything remotely close to offensive? Only hugbox approved knock knock jokes allowed
You don't think this is creepy?( PDA: Andrew Withers to Alexa Maclagan (Roboticist)) "Send Nudes"
[2023-08-06 00:28:50] OmenVI/(Mike Walter) (Brig (113,166,2)) (Event #1)
( PDA: Andrew Withers to Alexa Maclagan (Roboticist)) "Send Nudes now please"
[2023-08-06 00:28:59] OmenVI/(Mike Walter) (Brig (114,166,2)) (Event #2)
( PDA: Andrew Withers to Alexa Maclagan (Roboticist)) "Send Your Nudes to me"
[2023-08-06 00:29:07] OmenVI/(Mike Walter) (Brig (114,165,2)) (Event #3)
( PDA: Andrew Withers to Alexa Maclagan (Roboticist)) "Let me see you naked"
[2023-08-06 00:29:33] OmenVI/(Mike Walter) (Brig (114,166,2)) (Event #4)
( PDA: Andrew Withers to Alexa Maclagan (Roboticist)) "Sends bobs and vagene"
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my opinion is thisFren256 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 3:35 am Edit: Actually no, it's very creepy they kept sending messages to the same person, and an asshole move doing it through someone else's PDA. Manuel's gossip is already bad as it is, being tagged as a pervert because of another shitter's actions would be horrible.
respect (let him do his thing)
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imagine getting banned for sending a station announcement of “send nudes” in the captain’s name
Let me ask you a few questions then and we can decide if this was a joke or sexual harassment.CMDR_Gungnir wrote:Nah, Sinful. When we say "Restrictions around Rule 8 need to be loosened when it's harmless innuendo and jokes, but should stay when it becomes Sexual Harassment" this is pretty clearly it falling into the latter.
1. Is it even possible to “send nudes” on SS13?
2. What do you think the goal of spamming “send nudes” was? A: because he really wanted nudes, B: to be funny and act stupid on someone else’s PDA
3. What would your reaction be to hearing “send nudes” spammed on your messages? Would you become uncomfortable and feel sexually harassed?
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Re: Officer asks roboticist to show it all (peanut)
i this this was in poor taste and possibly offensive but fine ruleswise
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in other words. IC issue
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Post by sinfulbliss » Sun Aug 06, 2023 8:47 am #697851
Holy SHIT what a horrible ban. And backed by a headmin too! Y’all have completely lost sight of rule 8 at this point, it’s almost comical.
I didn't think this qualified as ERP at all. I'm not making my 2D space man fuck another 2D space man. I said send nudes. You all are acting like I opened pandora's box though, which is why I'm confused on why this is a perma ban and not a warning or even a temp ban. If I had known just fucking saying send nudes a couple of times qualified a perma ban I most likely wouldn't have said it, but because the atmosphere of the game is inherently ridiculous, I didn't think that was an issue. So when I was contacted about it and you said you've got a better joke, I'm not gonna fight it, because I know you've probably already decided on what you'd do. That's how you guys operate.
This is extremely fucking real, and he is 100% right about everything he said here. Y’all need to lighten up and realize this is a videogame, “send nudes” sent from a stolen PDA is so inoffensive and harmless, I’m convinced at this point the goal isn’t to make the servers a better place but to just be a hardass for the hell of being a hardass. Probably the worst ban I’ve seen in a long time.
Alternatively: this would be laughed at by admins on LRP. What is it with Manuelmins and having zero sense of humor about anything remotely close to offensive? Only hugbox approved knock knock jokes allowed
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Post by sinfulbliss » Sun Aug 06, 2023 8:47 am #697851
Holy SHIT what a horrible ban. And backed by a headmin too! Y’all have completely lost sight of rule 8 at this point, it’s almost comical.
I didn't think this qualified as ERP at all. I'm not making my 2D space man fuck another 2D space man. I said send nudes. You all are acting like I opened pandora's box though, which is why I'm confused on why this is a perma ban and not a warning or even a temp ban. If I had known just fucking saying send nudes a couple of times qualified a perma ban I most likely wouldn't have said it, but because the atmosphere of the game is inherently ridiculous, I didn't think that was an issue. So when I was contacted about it and you said you've got a better joke, I'm not gonna fight it, because I know you've probably already decided on what you'd do. That's how you guys operate.
This is extremely fucking real, and he is 100% right about everything he said here. Y’all need to lighten up and realize this is a videogame, “send nudes” sent from a stolen PDA is so inoffensive and harmless, I’m convinced at this point the goal isn’t to make the servers a better place but to just be a hardass for the hell of being a hardass. Probably the worst ban I’ve seen in a long time.
Alternatively: this would be laughed at by admins on LRP. What is it with Manuelmins and having zero sense of humor about anything remotely close to offensive? Only hugbox approved knock knock jokes allowed
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decent ban, you shouldnt frame someone else as a genuine creep (especially as a joke when you dont even know them). The appeal shouldve been a simple "yeah the joke went a bit far, my apologies" but this individual spent 8 posts doing mental gymnastics in order to expertly shoot themselves in the foot
Chesh couldve handled the ticket much better but I have a sneaking suspicion that no matter how long the ticket was the result wouldve been the same.
Chesh couldve handled the ticket much better but I have a sneaking suspicion that no matter how long the ticket was the result wouldve been the same.
I dont think so, unwanted creepy things is a pretty hard line you dont cross, its just less likely to be ahelped on LRP. Even if you did, would the admins really take it lightly if you express that its making you uncomfortable?sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 7:47 am Alternatively: this would be laughed at by admins on LRP. What is it with Manuelmins and having zero sense of humor about anything remotely close to offensive? Only hugbox approved knock knock jokes allowed
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Post by sinfulbliss » Sun Aug 06, 2023 8:47 am #697851
Holy SHIT what a horrible ban. And backed by a headmin too! Y’all have completely lost sight of rule 8 at this point, it’s almost comical.
I didn't think this qualified as ERP at all. I'm not making my 2D space man fuck another 2D space man. I said send nudes. You all are acting like I opened pandora's box though, which is why I'm confused on why this is a perma ban and not a warning or even a temp ban. If I had known just fucking saying send nudes a couple of times qualified a perma ban I most likely wouldn't have said it, but because the atmosphere of the game is inherently ridiculous, I didn't think that was an issue. So when I was contacted about it and you said you've got a better joke, I'm not gonna fight it, because I know you've probably already decided on what you'd do. That's how you guys operate.
This is extremely fucking real, and he is 100% right about everything he said here. Y’all need to lighten up and realize this is a videogame, “send nudes” sent from a stolen PDA is so inoffensive and harmless, I’m convinced at this point the goal isn’t to make the servers a better place but to just be a hardass for the hell of being a hardass. Probably the worst ban I’ve seen in a long time.
Alternatively: this would be laughed at by admins on LRP. What is it with Manuelmins and having zero sense of humor about anything remotely close to offensive? Only hugbox approved knock knock jokes allowed
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No one in the history of spacemen would be made uncomfortable by something as silly as this, come on nowTheLoLSwat wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 4:05 pm decent ban, you shouldnt frame someone else as a genuine creep (especially as a joke when you dont even know them). The appeal shouldve been a simple "yeah the joke went a bit far, my apologies" but this individual spent 8 posts doing mental gymnastics in order to expertly shoot themselves in the foot
Chesh couldve handled the ticket much better but I have a sneaking suspicion that no matter how long the ticket was the result wouldve been the same.
I dont think so, unwanted creepy things is a pretty hard line you dont cross, its just less likely to be ahelped on LRP. Even if you did, would the admins really take it lightly if you express that its making you uncomfortable?sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 7:47 am Alternatively: this would be laughed at by admins on LRP. What is it with Manuelmins and having zero sense of humor about anything remotely close to offensive? Only hugbox approved knock knock jokes allowed
Unless it happened like multiple rounds in a row from the same person. Also yeah I think handling the ticket by saying “oh it was a joke was it? here’s my joke *ban*” shows just a lack of maturity
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I dont see how you or I could ever be made uncomfortable by something like that, but we cant speak for everyone and if someone is made uncomfortable by another player (who is doing it while impersonating another player), the absolute least the admin can do is bwoink the person to see if they understand that they went a bit far, which is what Chesh didsinfulbliss wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 4:20 pmNo one in the history of spacemen would be made uncomfortable by something as silly as this, come on nowTheLoLSwat wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 4:05 pm decent ban, you shouldnt frame someone else as a genuine creep (especially as a joke when you dont even know them). The appeal shouldve been a simple "yeah the joke went a bit far, my apologies" but this individual spent 8 posts doing mental gymnastics in order to expertly shoot themselves in the foot
Chesh couldve handled the ticket much better but I have a sneaking suspicion that no matter how long the ticket was the result wouldve been the same.
I dont think so, unwanted creepy things is a pretty hard line you dont cross, its just less likely to be ahelped on LRP. Even if you did, would the admins really take it lightly if you express that its making you uncomfortable?sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 7:47 am Alternatively: this would be laughed at by admins on LRP. What is it with Manuelmins and having zero sense of humor about anything remotely close to offensive? Only hugbox approved knock knock jokes allowed
Unless it happened like multiple rounds in a row from the same person. Also yeah I think handling the ticket by saying “oh it was a joke was it? here’s my joke *ban*” shows just a lack of maturity
The ticket was trolled but not in a "wow wtf" way imo, and after reading the appeal its hard to believe the ticket wouldve gone any differently even if Chesh didnt ban him quickly
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Was the texts literally just "send nudes" or was there more to it.
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So lemme get this straight. It doesn’t matter if it was intended to be sexual or creepy. It doesn’t matter if it was patently a joke made to mess with someone. It doesn’t even matter if someone actually was made uncomfortable! All that matters is if an admin thinks that, hypothetically, this could make someone uncomfortable, and now a permaban can be doled out for that?TheLoLSwat wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 4:31 pmI dont see how you or I could ever be made uncomfortable by something like that, but we cant speak for everyone and if someone is made uncomfortable by another player (who is doing it while impersonating another player), the absolute least the admin can do is bwoink the person to see if they understand that they went a bit far, which is what Chesh didsinfulbliss wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 4:20 pmNo one in the history of spacemen would be made uncomfortable by something as silly as this, come on nowTheLoLSwat wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 4:05 pm decent ban, you shouldnt frame someone else as a genuine creep (especially as a joke when you dont even know them). The appeal shouldve been a simple "yeah the joke went a bit far, my apologies" but this individual spent 8 posts doing mental gymnastics in order to expertly shoot themselves in the foot
Chesh couldve handled the ticket much better but I have a sneaking suspicion that no matter how long the ticket was the result wouldve been the same.
I dont think so, unwanted creepy things is a pretty hard line you dont cross, its just less likely to be ahelped on LRP. Even if you did, would the admins really take it lightly if you express that its making you uncomfortable?sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 7:47 am Alternatively: this would be laughed at by admins on LRP. What is it with Manuelmins and having zero sense of humor about anything remotely close to offensive? Only hugbox approved knock knock jokes allowed
That is just such a braindead gay baby way of enforcing rule 8. It’s fucking amazing to me a PDA message of “send nudez lul” is treated the same as two spacemen having loud 3-paragraph ERP emote oral sex in the dorms. Both permabans. Isn’t that in the least bit mental, be honest? Nope, someone could be made uncomfortable, 0 tolerance policy, enjoy your ban.
Perhaps if it wasn’t handled in such a bratty, immature way, the player would have been more inclined to approach the appeal more diplomatically.TheLoLSwat wrote:The ticket was trolled but not in a "wow wtf" way imo, and after reading the appeal its hard to believe the ticket wouldve gone any differently even if Chesh didnt ban him quickly
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Re: Officer asks roboticist to show it all (peanut)
“Let me see you naked” is pretty bad
But I stand by the belief that “send nudes” as a joke is a nothingburger
But I stand by the belief that “send nudes” as a joke is a nothingburger
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Asking someone to send nudes and making an ass of yourself is bad, sending people messages such as "Send Nudes now please", "Send Your Nudes to me", "Let me see you naked", and "Send Nudes" is textbook creep behaviour, and impersonating someone else as a security officer is just awful. The lack of care and empathy towards how your actions affect others is classic rule 1 breaking behaviour, doubly so since it's weirdly sexual.
I would not personally want anything less than an extended ban to the perp if I had this happened to me, and having all just be shrugged off as a joke sickens me.
I would not personally want anything less than an extended ban to the perp if I had this happened to me, and having all just be shrugged off as a joke sickens me.
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Guys guys, this may be a hot take, but...
Sexual harassment is bad
Sexual harassment is bad
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I think as a one-off it was dumb joke.
As a three-off it moved beyond dumb to becoming "cut this shit out" actionable.
Then combined with "let me see you naked" moved from becoming actionable to being unacceptable.
The ending of "Sends bobs and vagene" was just the doubling down on a bad decision. A man digging his own grave that wants it an extra foot deep just to be sure.
As a three-off it moved beyond dumb to becoming "cut this shit out" actionable.
Then combined with "let me see you naked" moved from becoming actionable to being unacceptable.
The ending of "Sends bobs and vagene" was just the doubling down on a bad decision. A man digging his own grave that wants it an extra foot deep just to be sure.
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Is this part a dumb joke or is it actionable?? Timber said this alone was a dumb joke and I agree, the rest makes it worse but Chesh says very clearly the “send nudes” alone was over the lineCheshify wrote:While this is partially related to rule 8, since asking someone for nude images (obviously in a joking manner in this case, hence the bobs and vagene) is so ERP adjacent that I'd ask anyone to stop with it.
Also I really dislike how the excuse for the hostile ticket was “i just care a lot about this issue” and “well you said afterwards to ban you.” They said that after you teased the ban over their head, what do you expect them to say? And now even though it’s pretty obvious they won’t repeat this, the appeal is denied because you started this whole thing off on hostile footing. Great work
In sum you should be able to steal the captain’s PDA and PDA “send nudes” to the whole station without an admin probing your ass over it
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I think this guy genuinely doesn't get it and would have liked to see more effort to make him understand before rejecting his appeal for a ban that was clearly meant to be appealed, and is excessive outside that context.
Rule 8 is and should be strict and doing things "as a joke" is still doing them.
Rule 8 is and should be strict and doing things "as a joke" is still doing them.
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Re: Officer asks roboticist to show it all (peanut)
Completely, 100% agree with this. Rule 8 really isn't something to be fucked with and linetoe on.
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Re: Officer asks roboticist to show it all (peanut)
you probably wont get flogged for going "send noodz lol" or similar jokes, and even if you do its a simple manner of seeing where you took the joke too far and either telling the admin you wont and you agree or that you wont and you dont agreesinfulbliss wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 6:36 pmIs this part a dumb joke or is it actionable?? Timber said this alone was a dumb joke and I agree, the rest makes it worse but Chesh says very clearly the “send nudes” alone was over the lineCheshify wrote:While this is partially related to rule 8, since asking someone for nude images (obviously in a joking manner in this case, hence the bobs and vagene) is so ERP adjacent that I'd ask anyone to stop with it.
Also I really dislike how the excuse for the hostile ticket was “i just care a lot about this issue” and “well you said afterwards to ban you.” They said that after you teased the ban over their head, what do you expect them to say? And now even though it’s pretty obvious they won’t repeat this, the appeal is denied because you started this whole thing off on hostile footing. Great work
In sum you should be able to steal the captain’s PDA and PDA “send nudes” to the whole station without an admin probing your ass over it
He is either being dense intentionally or just doesnt believe what he is doing is wrong, because...ekaterina wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 6:40 pm I think this guy genuinely doesn't get it and would have liked to see more effort to make him understand before rejecting his appeal for a ban that was clearly meant to be appealed, and is excessive outside that context.
Rule 8 is and should be strict and doing things "as a joke" is still doing them.
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 4:10 am I think the problem is that you did it as a joke, but still broke the rules and very strongly enforced rules at that.
But you're so focused on the idea you did it as a joke that you're missing the memo that this was unacceptable even as a joke.
You need to consider both the impact your actions could have had on the player getting creepy messages and on the person whom you pranked through using their PDA to do it.
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Re: Officer asks roboticist to show it all (peanut)
If he did it as himself, as a one-off, he'd have probably gotten a "That's weird man, come on"
Although I once saw a lawyer do a bit where he wore the jabroni outfit and spent the whole round advertising his OnlyLaws, PDAing people pictures of himself and faxing around pictures of his ass. I never saw him again but it was pretty funny.
Although I once saw a lawyer do a bit where he wore the jabroni outfit and spent the whole round advertising his OnlyLaws, PDAing people pictures of himself and faxing around pictures of his ass. I never saw him again but it was pretty funny.
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Re: Officer asks roboticist to show it all (peanut)
Dude's unbelievably pathetic. He just wants to see nude pixels lmao. He's self entitled and ain't coming back that's for sure!
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Re: Officer asks roboticist to show it all (peanut)
Oh damn, it was this guy. Yeah the only time he spoke normally to me in the brig was right before he got eforated. Was considering demotion before adminbus did their thing.Timberpoes wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 6:05 pm
As a side note, what is this guy's say logs? Is this dude a Pokémon or something?
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Re: Officer asks roboticist to show it all (peanut)
I agree with him being banned, but, I feel perma is too much for what happened, and also Cheshi really created a hostile atmosphere with that ticket conduct. I'm not surprised he doesn't want to apologize to Cheshi, Cheshi really didn't approach this one neutrally or professionally.
E: Okay, my original statement was a bit too harsh. The opening statement in the ticket was fine, but Cheshi should have been more inquisitive after that. "Okay, I understand it was a joke, but do you see how that sort of thing might come across as creepy?" or "Don't you think the guy whose PDA you stole would be upset you tried to frame him sexually?" or some other response which would have given him room to expound on his thoughts would have been better. "That's it?" was very dismissive and did not lend itself to productive conversation in the ticket, and is what shut down the appealant, and led to his current defiant attitude in the appeal.
E: Okay, my original statement was a bit too harsh. The opening statement in the ticket was fine, but Cheshi should have been more inquisitive after that. "Okay, I understand it was a joke, but do you see how that sort of thing might come across as creepy?" or "Don't you think the guy whose PDA you stole would be upset you tried to frame him sexually?" or some other response which would have given him room to expound on his thoughts would have been better. "That's it?" was very dismissive and did not lend itself to productive conversation in the ticket, and is what shut down the appealant, and led to his current defiant attitude in the appeal.
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you can see those in the library
i think this was an unnecessary ban and rule 8 doesn't need bans for people with no priors on history.
the admins' conduct in the ticket was bad and they didn't even try to lead the person to understanding what they had done wrong before deciding they were doing it on purpose (don't handle tickets you get emotive about, we have 70+ admins who can help you) and this all could have been handled with a dont' do this again + note.
The continuing trend of treating rule 8 violations as a ban for first offence without any attempt at guiding people to the right behaviours is an overreaction.
The only thing that makes this ban mildly defendable is the length of time this player has played, so they should know the rules, but given their inactive and sporadic, i can easily see them not keeping up to date with the norms of what's permitted on tg.
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Re: Officer asks roboticist to show it all (peanut)
Orange man is right you know. Rule 8 has gone way too far.
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Re: Officer asks roboticist to show it all (peanut)
The logs made him look like a thirsty nerd. It would be more believable as a joke if he wasn't so insistent while targeting a specific crew member.oranges wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 9:03 pmyou can see those in the library
i think this was an unnecessary ban and rule 8 doesn't need bans for people with no priors on history.
the admins' conduct in the ticket was bad and they didn't even try to lead the person to understanding what they had done wrong before deciding they were doing it on purpose (don't handle tickets you get emotive about, we have 70+ admins who can help you) and this all could have been handled with a dont' do this again + note.
The continuing trend of treating rule 8 violations as a ban for first offence without any attempt at guiding people to the right behaviours is an overreaction.
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Re: Officer asks roboticist to show it all (peanut)
I'm not going to pretend to know player names well enough to know if it's true that he was targeting someone specific or not but he said in his own first post that he saw they were already messaging someone and followed up on it.
which actually depending on when chesify's first set of logs occurred could be caught as a lie.
which actually depending on when chesify's first set of logs occurred could be caught as a lie.
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Re: Officer asks roboticist to show it all (peanut)
I think what led to his defiant attitude in the appeal was less the snippy “that’s it?” and more the powertripping “i got a joke for you too!” before permabanning. if an admin said this in public it’d be funny but the fact it’s said in private, to the player they’re right about to ban, comes off as genuine anger. just being an asshole because you’re wound upImitates-The-Lizards wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 8:25 pm […]and led to his current defiant attitude in the appeal.
come to think of it hasnt this exact type of shit happened with cheshify already
like remember the time they gibbed 3 pirates because one attacked arrivals with a cannon
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Re: Officer asks roboticist to show it all (peanut)
Nah bans valid. "send nudes" would've been totally fine but repeatedly asking for a them specifically is creepy and weird and we don't need it here
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Re: Officer asks roboticist to show it all (peanut)
Incorrect as all hell. They chose to target the emergency shuttle with explosive shells.sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 9:34 pmI think what led to his defiant attitude in the appeal was less the snippy “that’s it?” and more the powertripping “i got a joke for you too!” before permabanning. if an admin said this in public it’d be funny but the fact it’s said in private, to the player they’re right about to ban, comes off as genuine anger. just being an asshole because you’re wound upImitates-The-Lizards wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 8:25 pm […]and led to his current defiant attitude in the appeal.
come to think of it hasnt this exact type of shit happened with cheshify already
like remember the time they gibbed 3 pirates because one attacked arrivals with a cannon
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Re: Officer asks roboticist to show it all (peanut)
The ban is not incorrect. I could've been avoided, sure, by, idk, the other person photocopying their ass fifteen times, putting the pictures on a folder, throwing it at them and beating them up instead of ahelping, but that's not the obligation of someone that's being targeted by creepy behaviour.
There's a serious problem of perspective on this peanut thread where people go "YEH BAN BE BAD 'COS" when they fail to realize it wasn't them in the round.
There's a serious problem of perspective on this peanut thread where people go "YEH BAN BE BAD 'COS" when they fail to realize it wasn't them in the round.
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RedBaronFlyer wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:52 pmIt would somehow manage to pick Birdshot Station for headmin if we did that
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Re: Officer asks roboticist to show it all (peanut)
Dude why are you still defending thisCheshify wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 9:39 pmIncorrect as all hell. They chose to target the emergency shuttle with explosive shells.sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 9:34 pmI think what led to his defiant attitude in the appeal was less the snippy “that’s it?” and more the powertripping “i got a joke for you too!” before permabanning. if an admin said this in public it’d be funny but the fact it’s said in private, to the player they’re right about to ban, comes off as genuine anger. just being an asshole because you’re wound upImitates-The-Lizards wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 8:25 pm […]and led to his current defiant attitude in the appeal.
come to think of it hasnt this exact type of shit happened with cheshify already
like remember the time they gibbed 3 pirates because one attacked arrivals with a cannon
you don’t gib someone that hasn’t broken the rules! hello! don’t handle things while angry because they lead to bad decisions, just pass it off to someone elseArchie wrote:Also the third pirate, Mate Pulsarhelm/Sakke03 was never involved in firing the cannons according to logs, even though they were similarly gibbed.
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Re: Officer asks roboticist to show it all (peanut)
I do admit that I fucked up in the ticket, I'm not infallible and I make mistakes (like literally everyone else). I can't go back and change it, I can only explain what the issue is with their actions and try to let the appeal unfold. If they truly think it's just a joke and have no interest in changing the behaviour, I can't in good faith unban them.
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everyone makes mistakes but it’s one thing to recognize your mistakes and change them, it’s another to recognize them for the optics of recognizing them and then go on about how “well in the end I was justified” and not changing a damn thing about how you do things going into the future
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Big assumption, there. Very big.sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 9:50 pm and not changing a damn thing about how you do things going into the future
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Armhulen wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2023 11:08 pmThe Spessmen Times wrote:Prohibition agent Sam Salamander bragged that he could find a metacord in any server in under 30 minutes. In Bagil it took him 21 minutes. In Sybil 17 minutes, and Manuel just 11 minutes. But Terry set the record of 35 seconds. Sam asked an assistant on the arrivals shuttle where to get a discord invite, and the assistant linked him one.
RedBaronFlyer wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:52 pmIt would somehow manage to pick Birdshot Station for headmin if we did that
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Err I think i misquoted ches replying to sinful instead of me.
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Re: Officer asks roboticist to show it all (peanut)
going off of tickets they’ve had in the past (+ you do not gib an innocent man if you are not angry), it’s not an assumption. they genuinely need to just cool it and hand off tickets to other people when they get mad like thisconrad wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 9:52 pmBig assumption, there. Very big.sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 9:50 pm and not changing a damn thing about how you do things going into the future
FWIW it’s never happened to me, my bwoinks with them were amicable IIRC, and sure there are mistakes, but you need to CHANGE them or recognizing them means nothing
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Re: Officer asks roboticist to show it all (peanut)
It's okay Cheshi, we don't expect you to be perfect. You do good work. It's also good you admitted your faults in this case.Cheshify wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 9:46 pm I do admit that I fucked up in the ticket, I'm not infallible and I make mistakes (like literally everyone else). I can't go back and change it, I can only explain what the issue is with their actions and try to let the appeal unfold. If they truly think it's just a joke and have no interest in changing the behaviour, I can't in good faith unban them.
Still, don't you think you could do a bit more to try and reach an amicable resolution with this player?
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god damnit I thought this was conrad saying this at first and I was about to be so proud of himImitates-The-Lizards wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 10:40 pmIt's okay Cheshi, we don't expect you to be perfect. You do good work. It's also good you admitted your faults in this case.Cheshify wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 9:46 pm I do admit that I fucked up in the ticket, I'm not infallible and I make mistakes (like literally everyone else). I can't go back and change it, I can only explain what the issue is with their actions and try to let the appeal unfold. If they truly think it's just a joke and have no interest in changing the behaviour, I can't in good faith unban them.
Still, don't you think you could do a bit more to try and reach an amicable resolution with this player?
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Why do you hate me so?sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 10:43 pmgod damnit I thought this was conrad saying this at first and I was about to be so proud of himImitates-The-Lizards wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 10:40 pmIt's okay Cheshi, we don't expect you to be perfect. You do good work. It's also good you admitted your faults in this case.Cheshify wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 9:46 pm I do admit that I fucked up in the ticket, I'm not infallible and I make mistakes (like literally everyone else). I can't go back and change it, I can only explain what the issue is with their actions and try to let the appeal unfold. If they truly think it's just a joke and have no interest in changing the behaviour, I can't in good faith unban them.
Still, don't you think you could do a bit more to try and reach an amicable resolution with this player?
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Re: Officer asks roboticist to show it all (peanut)
I didn't see this till now so I am going to say my take on it even though the forum thread seems to have moved on from the first impression takes.
If somebody did this with my characters PDA I would not be happy in the slightest.
Essentially sending messages with another player's PDA that can make them tagged as a pervert is a NO NO in my book. Holy shit. I would rather it be ANYTHING else in the message than what we saw.
The amount of damage control I would have to do if it went into the gossip sphere if it happened to me!
I can tell people see this in many ways but I am on the camp of get rid of this I don't want to see it.
If it was with their own PDA sure, it's more excusable. But as soon as it was with the other persons PDA? No. Just no
If somebody did this with my characters PDA I would not be happy in the slightest.
This.Fren256 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 3:35 am Edit: Actually no, it's very creepy they kept sending messages to the same person, and an asshole move doing it through someone else's PDA. Manuel's gossip is already bad as it is, being tagged as a pervert because of another shitter's actions would be horrible.
Essentially sending messages with another player's PDA that can make them tagged as a pervert is a NO NO in my book. Holy shit. I would rather it be ANYTHING else in the message than what we saw.
The amount of damage control I would have to do if it went into the gossip sphere if it happened to me!
I can tell people see this in many ways but I am on the camp of get rid of this I don't want to see it.
If it was with their own PDA sure, it's more excusable. But as soon as it was with the other persons PDA? No. Just no
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