A Mime’s Misdeeds

[RedBaronFlyer]

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[Lacran]

Dude broke his vow over an I.D, tongue removal was warranted.

[iwishforducks]

Dude broke his vow over an I.D, tongue removal was warranted.

he needed said ID to do his job (cytology). can't say tongue removal was really warranted or needed. especially considering the CE being uninvolved in the situation.

[Lacran]

Dude broke his vow over an I.D, tongue removal was warranted.

he needed said ID to do his job (cytology). can't say tongue removal was really warranted or needed. especially considering the CE being uninvolved in the situation.

He was a mime.

If he wanted to be able to speak without consequences and do cytology join as a scientist.

[Turbonerd]

Fuck that "mime".

[Jacquerel]

why couldn't he have mimed licking some pipes and stirring a vat or whatever it is cytologists do

[EmpressMaia]

You can absolutely escalate if someone hurts you

[Lacran]

You can absolutely escalate if someone hurts you

Not regarding stuff like mime vows or ligger.

You can't deliberately make yourself valid and the robust the people trying to kill you. You could try to escape or like disarm them.

[Super Aggro Crag]

killing a mime for breaking their vow is stupid unless they're breaking their vow to say something shitty

[Unsane]

I agree with Crag, I feel like killing a mime for breaking their vow is too savage unless it's something really shitty

[iwishforducks]

killing a mime for breaking their vow is stupid unless they're breaking their vow to say something shitty

it's really fucking stupid to kill a mime who broke their vow to simply talk to GENUINE shitsec. there is nothing more frustrating in this world than playing mime and getting shitsec'd. imagine trying to talk to admins in only emojis. like come on.

[Jacquerel]

i just dont understand the psychology of "I wanted to do content localised entirely within science which is the job of the scientist so i decided to roll up a mime and get at it"

[iwishforducks]

i just dont understand the psychology of "I wanted to do content localised entirely within science which is the job of the scientist so i decided to roll up a mime and get at it"

So, on to the long version. I will try to be as accurate as I can, though my memory isn't what it used to be. Anyways, at round start, I goofed around a while, and then wandered over to the HOP office. The Chaplain was there in front of me asking for Xenobio access. The HOP just gave him a spare science ID, and since I've been wanting to do cytology for a while, I asked for the same thing. The HOP gave me a blank scientist ID just like the chaplain.

[Turbonerd]

killing a mime for breaking their vow is stupid unless they're breaking their vow to say something shitty

it's really fucking stupid to kill a mime who broke their vow to simply talk to GENUINE shitsec. there is nothing more frustrating in this world than playing mime and getting shitsec'd. imagine trying to talk to admins in only emojis. like come on.

If a mime can't mime then I don't give a flying shit about how they get treated. If you sign up as a mime, you better mime.

[SkyMonster]

I was observing the incident from arrest to tongue removal. It was a genuine shitsec moment by the arresting officers and the Warden. As usual, Assistant Lingden decided to be a massive twat and started attacking the Mime while the HoS was trying to de-escalate the situation. The Mime was having trouble because they had been deafened by a level 7 virus. Lingden/CE arrived at a situation they were completely uninvolved in and went straight for murder. Really frustrating to watch the whole thing go down. I'm glad the note got removed.

The Mime did try to emote as best they could but eventually lost it. Sec had no idea what they were doing and just wanted to make someone upset.

[BrolyButterfingers]

I was observing the incident from arrest to tongue removal. It was a genuine shitsec moment by the arresting officers and the Warden. As usual, Assistant Lingden decided to be a massive twat and started attacking the Mime while the HoS was trying to de-escalate the situation. The Mime was having trouble because they had been deafened by a level 7 virus. Lingden/CE arrived at a situation they were completely uninvolved in and went straight for murder. Really frustrating to watch the whole thing go down. I'm glad the note got removed.

The Mime did try to emote as best they could but eventually lost it. Sec had no idea what they were doing and just wanted to make someone upset.

This is a lie, I didn't go for murder at all (I was the CE), I hit them with a stool twice and they went into crit, I said to take them to the medbay, and they succumbed in the hall on the way there.

I did, however, deep-fry their tongue and eat it after I made sure they got to medbay. If you're gonna mime then you better fuckin mime.

[SkyMonster]

I was observing the incident from arrest to tongue removal. It was a genuine shitsec moment by the arresting officers and the Warden. As usual, Assistant Lingden decided to be a massive twat and started attacking the Mime while the HoS was trying to de-escalate the situation. The Mime was having trouble because they had been deafened by a level 7 virus. Lingden/CE arrived at a situation they were completely uninvolved in and went straight for murder. Really frustrating to watch the whole thing go down. I'm glad the note got removed.

The Mime did try to emote as best they could but eventually lost it. Sec had no idea what they were doing and just wanted to make someone upset.

This is a lie, I didn't go for murder at all (I was the CE), I hit them with a stool twice and they went into softcrit, I said to take them to the medbay, and they succumbed in the hall on the way there.

I did, however, deep-fry their tongue and eat it. If you're gonna mime then you better fuckin mime.

He ended dead in Medbay because of it, potentially due to the Doctor's mishandling of the patient. I know you only bonked him a total of 2 or three times over Lingden's 6-7. Let's call it valid manslaughter. I don't care about the tongue, I've personally removed the tongue of a Mime in another shift. I called out Lingden specifically and not you because he initiated the violence and you were the responsible one who took the Mime to Medbay in crit. It was just rough seeing a Mime get shitsec'd then beaten up over it.

[BrolyButterfingers]

AFAIK there's also zero justification for ever destroying irreplaceable stuff as a non-antag; I've been talked to by admins just for throwing the atmos MODsuit out into space over a similar beef because there's only one, even though it was replaceable, because it was an item that was a pain to replace. The fact that the Mime destroyed both the main engilathe board *and* the backup board in the CE's locker is shit that I was under the impression would get you noted if you weren't an antagonist, no matter the context.

[Super Aggro Crag]

killing a mime for breaking their vow is stupid unless they're breaking their vow to say something shitty

it's really fucking stupid to kill a mime who broke their vow to simply talk to GENUINE shitsec. there is nothing more frustrating in this world than playing mime and getting shitsec'd. imagine trying to talk to admins in only emojis. like come on.

If a mime can't mime then I don't give a flying shit about how they get treated. If you sign up as a mime, you better mime.

how come this only applies to mime and not the fact that 80 percent of our players sign up for a job and just walk around in circles not knowing what to do and just clicking on people until they rotate 90 degrees

[BrolyButterfingers]

killing a mime for breaking their vow is stupid unless they're breaking their vow to say something shitty

it's really fucking stupid to kill a mime who broke their vow to simply talk to GENUINE shitsec. there is nothing more frustrating in this world than playing mime and getting shitsec'd. imagine trying to talk to admins in only emojis. like come on.

If a mime can't mime then I don't give a flying shit about how they get treated. If you sign up as a mime, you better mime.

how come this only applies to mime and not the fact that 80 percent of our players sign up for a job and just walk around in circles not knowing what to do and just clicking on people until they rotate 90 degrees

Because for like two months, for whatever reason, Manuel stopped beating the shit out of mimes and I swear I saw a mime speaking about once a day during that period. For whatever reason beating down mimes came back into fashion and it stopped.

Also, the dynamic adds a LOT of comedy to mimes that pick good moments to break their vow. I personally like waiting for radstorms and taking off my mask next to someone, lighting a cigarette and going, "I fucking hate this job" before putting my mask back on and going back outside.

[Lacran]

Because mime gets powers that are actually very strong, to balance that you get 1 extreme but incredibly specific restriction, you don't talk.

You can't talk, that's it. You literally don't even have to mime you can just PDA people or write shit down.

If you wanna do cytology just go scientist and this stuff wouldn't have occured.

I get shitsec making them frustrated but breaking your vow to scream over the radio about it WILL get you lynched. It was also entirely unnecessary to resolve the situation.

[Super Aggro Crag]

mimes cant pda people except emojicons and i think oranges was trying to make it so they cant write either

[TheRex9001]

Should have just mimed better

[Lacran]

mimes cant pda people except emojicons and i think oranges was trying to make it so they cant write either

Did that happen fairly recently?

[TheRex9001]

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mimes cant pda people except emojicons and i think oranges was trying to make it so they cant write either
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Mimes can write and use their pda. Breaking your vow is a cowards act.

[dirk_mcblade]

I would think the CE outta have better things to do than harassing a dead mime for 20 minutes, but there it is, I'm the one writing this appeal and not him.

Lol. Lmao, even.

Arent we supposed to be roleplaying relatively stable people working jobs they've earned, not frothing lunatics waiting for the chance to get away with murder at the slightest rules-justifiable pretext?

Is it possible for us to start QC banning people in the opposite direction of the recent QC bans? This isn't what I want to see from players.

If brother wants to larp as Joaquin Phoenix he should've picked clown and he could have society posted all day as clown.

[CMDR_Gungnir]

mimes cant pda people except emojicons and i think oranges was trying to make it so they cant write either

Mimes can write and use their pda. Breaking your vow is a cowards act.

They can't PDA outside of emojis, and the Coders made it so you can't write without breaking the Vow. Crag is correct.

[TheRex9001]

I would think the CE outta have better things to do than harassing a dead mime for 20 minutes, but there it is, I'm the one writing this appeal and not him.

Lol. Lmao, even.

Arent we supposed to be roleplaying relatively stable people working jobs they've earned, not frothing lunatics waiting for the chance to get away with murder at the slightest rules-justifiable pretext?

Is it possible for us to start QC banning people in the opposite direction of the recent QC bans? This isn't what I want to see from players.

If brother wants to larp as Joaquin Phoenix he should've picked clown and he could have society posted all day as clown.

They dare say that after vow breaking, awful ”mime” and taking a tongue out for their transgression is an optimal punishment

[BrolyButterfingers]

I would think the CE outta have better things to do than harassing a dead mime for 20 minutes, but there it is, I'm the one writing this appeal and not him.

Lol. Lmao, even.

Arent we supposed to be roleplaying relatively stable people working jobs they've earned, not frothing lunatics waiting for the chance to get away with murder at the slightest rules-justifiable pretext?

Is it possible for us to start QC banning people in the opposite direction of the recent QC bans? This isn't what I want to see from players.

If brother wants to larp as Joaquin Phoenix he should've picked clown and he could have society posted all day as clown.

They dare say that after vow breaking, awful ”mime” and taking a tongue out for their transgression is an optimal punishment

Yeah I thought taking their tongue was both pretty fair and thematically appropriate; I'm actually a little flabbergasted he got his note removed when he threw both engilathe boards through the recycler in response.

[TheRex9001]

mimes cant pda people except emojicons and i think oranges was trying to make it so they cant write either

Mimes can write and use their pda. Breaking your vow is a cowards act.

They can't PDA outside of emojis, and the Coders made it so you can't write without breaking the Vow. Crag is correct.

Might be bugged, I could write just fine a day or two ago. In any case writing as a mime is lame and miming is easy.

[BrolyButterfingers]

Hey, wait a fucking second

How'd he know IC to retaliate against me for the tongue removal? I ordered it while he was dead/asleep, I'm fairly certain. I also ordered the mutadone while he was dead/asleep. Someone might have to look at the logs and see if he was using dead info.

[dirk_mcblade]

For someone who fucked around with engineering he seems to have literally no idea how the department works which is five minutes of job at round start and then just sandbox projects the rest of shift, with the CE actually having the least amount of work. It is absolutely characteristic of a CE to spend the round messing with a mime.

And throwing the engiboards into the trash isn't that severe? Literally prog traitor shit. Actually a lot of prog traitors leave the board there still so debatable it's worse. Any engineers from that shift ought to admin complaint that note removal. I wouldn't want this player getting another freebie round of this nonsense.

Furthermore notes are only supposed to be removed if factually incorrect or unjustifiably harsh. Where is either of this?

[TheRex9001]

I still cant get over the fact they wrote like 16 paragraps over a fucking note when they couldnt for the life of them use a *me emote and just haadd to break vow. Despicable mime play.

[Super Aggro Crag]

mimes cant pda people except emojicons and i think oranges was trying to make it so they cant write either

Mimes can write and use their pda. Breaking your vow is a cowards act.

They can't PDA outside of emojis, and the Coders made it so you can't write without breaking the Vow. Crag is correct.

Thank you gungy

[Striders13]

I still cant get over the fact they wrote like 16 paragraps over a fucking note when they couldnt for the life of them use a *me emote and just haadd to break vow. Despicable mime play.

Should've been changed to a permanent mime job ban.

[iwishforducks]

If you wanna do cytology just go scientist and this stuff wouldn't have occured.

he started doing cytology only because the opportunity presented itself. it wasn't like he started the round wanting to do cytology:

Anyways, at round start, I goofed around a while, and then wandered over to the HOP office. The Chaplain was there in front of me asking for Xenobio access. The HOP just gave him a spare science ID, and since I've been wanting to do cytology for a while, I asked for the same thing. The HOP gave me a blank scientist ID just like the chaplain.

I get shitsec making them frustrated but breaking your vow to scream over the radio about it WILL get you lynched. It was also entirely unnecessary to resolve the situation.

the mime never talked over radio. they only ever talked to security directly. while in the brig and standing out the door, which he was just asking for the scientist ID back (and hurling some insults at sec). right afterwards he seals his vow again.

there is a severe lack of empathy in this thread. it's pretty clear that the issue he had with the entire situation was that it was just a waste of fucking time. shitsec was wasting his time. the CE was wasting his time with the tongue thing. medical was wasting his time with incompetency. meanwhile everyone on common radio is just openly antagonizing him. i know he dumped the contents of the CE's locker into disposals, and dumped the lathe board into disposals as well, but it seemed he didn't think it would actually be a full on-destruction. i just feel fuckin bad for the guy. that shit would fucking ruin my day.

have some fucking heart guys

[dirk_mcblade]

He chose mime. You don't have to play mine if you don't want to.

[SkyMonster]

Hey, wait a fucking second

How'd he know IC to retaliate against me for the tongue removal? I ordered it while he was dead/asleep, I'm fairly certain. I also ordered the mutadone while he was dead/asleep. Someone might have to look at the logs and see if he was using dead info.

You know I think you're right about that. All he should have known about you was a few bonks and that's about it.

[Lacran]

Ducks empathy doesn't absolve a player of all responsibility.

When you play mime you do so knowing you are valid if you speak, he chose to rant about security, he got valided.

This is the one requirement for mime, nobody is forcing them to play mime you agree to these terms when you play it.

You get arrested for breaking into Chem, you get your I.D that doesn't have your name on it confiscated and you break your vow to rant about it, which is understandable but you are very likely going to die.

[kieth4]

Don't play mime if you're going to talk for any reason. Simple.

[MooCow12]

theres like 20 ways to bypass the vow of silence as mime anyway and while its most definitely frowned upon atleast you dont break your vow.

[Fren256]

Never touching Mime (and Clown for that matter) if it gets people this riled up.

Also I think everyone here is missing who is the real baddie of the story (it's shitsec).

[Kendrickorium]

Also, the dynamic adds a LOT of comedy to mimes that pick good moments to break their vow. I personally like waiting for radstorms and taking off my mask next to someone, lighting a cigarette and going, "I fucking hate this job" before putting my mask back on and going back outside.

i would fucking die, that's fucking great

[Timberpoes]

Mimes being able to write without impacting their vow isn't broken.

MSO did a server-side code override to reverse the PR implementing it.

It's effectively reverted on live servers due to this.

So people that read the code are correct that it should be impossible to write without breaking as a mime.

People that play are correct that mimes can still do it due to server side shenanigans changing the code back.

[TheLoLSwat]

If you wanna do cytology just go scientist and this stuff wouldn't have occured.

he started doing cytology only because the opportunity presented itself. it wasn't like he started the round wanting to do cytology:

Anyways, at round start, I goofed around a while, and then wandered over to the HOP office. The Chaplain was there in front of me asking for Xenobio access. The HOP just gave him a spare science ID, and since I've been wanting to do cytology for a while, I asked for the same thing. The HOP gave me a blank scientist ID just like the chaplain.

I get shitsec making them frustrated but breaking your vow to scream over the radio about it WILL get you lynched. It was also entirely unnecessary to resolve the situation.

the mime never talked over radio. they only ever talked to security directly. while in the brig and standing out the door, which he was just asking for the scientist ID back (and hurling some insults at sec). right afterwards he seals his vow again.

there is a severe lack of empathy in this thread. it's pretty clear that the issue he had with the entire situation was that it was just a waste of fucking time. shitsec was wasting his time. the CE was wasting his time with the tongue thing. medical was wasting his time with incompetency. meanwhile everyone on common radio is just openly antagonizing him. i know he dumped the contents of the CE's locker into disposals, and dumped the lathe board into disposals as well, but it seemed he didn't think it would actually be a full on-destruction. i just feel fuckin bad for the guy. that shit would fucking ruin my day.

have some fucking heart guys

They picked the one vocally restricted job and then decided to cut a promo in brig like they were triple H in 2006, I don’t see a reason to feel bad since being victim to ss13 shenanigans is part of the game, unless I am missing something

[Misdoubtful]

Now imagine if he mimed out his appeal.

That'd be the best mime type appeal ever seen.

[Timberpoes]

Now imagine if he mimed out his appeal.

That'd be the best mime type appeal ever seen.

The eternal SS13 condition. Putting more effort into the appeal than into their IC interactions, such that if they'd put even a fraction of that effort into the IC interaction they'd not have to be appealing.

I'd rather mimes just mime everything out IC and take their 10 lashes when they rage out and speak while playing the role with magical powers that's supposed to not speak.

[dirk_mcblade]

I still think the note getting removed is not cool, if it's fine to remove factually accurate notes then I want my glycerin grenade note removed too then because that was like literally my first round and somebody handed me the grenade. And I only put a hole in engineering incidentally to being attacked rather than actively sabotaged it.
But I mean, whatever. I just hate mimes in general.

[Sightld2]

There are many cases of a player being PM'd where something does not need to be noted, or an admin chooses not to note based on the conversation. I feel removing the note is fair because had the mime been available at the time to speak with, I would have done so, and our conversation probably would have ended with a "Yeah no they were totally allowed to do that to you, remember that for the future, King." No note required. Maybe I am being a little too forgiving, particularly regarding the potential use of ghost info, but I do see that the Mime got themselves into an unwinnable scenario, and just kept getting Really unlucky.

[BONERMASTER]

Just saying guys, but if I was that mime, I'd stuff my backpack with the maximum amount of bombs possible in the videogame of SS13 that is being the context of this discussion, and give that doctor a real tight hug before deleting them and their entire department.

Of course, this is all just hyopthetical, because I will never play a mime and have no interest of doing so. But just saying! And also, you're being honest to god cowards with this escalation policy: If you're already going to void someone's life over something as trite as using their voice, at least let them fight back against all the idiots that are coming for them. It's only fair!


With emotional regards
-BONERMASTER