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"I put on by armor vest and seccie hat" nut
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A protip that if you're on a jobban you should stay away from anything even remotely related to your banned job(s) like it's the fucking plague.
Jeff was on the last day of his sec job ban. He was lucky lorwp was lenient enough, as this can by all means be considered ban evading.
The story itself looks like a regular run of the mill LRP IC conflict. The ban feels more like it's RPR 8 than anything else. I think Jeff is just on the wrong server mindset.
A protip that if you're on a jobban you should stay away from anything even remotely related to your banned job(s) like it's the fucking plague.
Jeff was on the last day of his sec job ban. He was lucky lorwp was lenient enough, as this can by all means be considered ban evading.
The story itself looks like a regular run of the mill LRP IC conflict. The ban feels more like it's RPR 8 than anything else. I think Jeff is just on the wrong server mindset.
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Armhulen wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2023 11:08 pmThe Spessmen Times wrote:Prohibition agent Sam Salamander bragged that he could find a metacord in any server in under 30 minutes. In Bagil it took him 21 minutes. In Sybil 17 minutes, and Manuel just 11 minutes. But Terry set the record of 35 seconds. Sam asked an assistant on the arrivals shuttle where to get a discord invite, and the assistant linked him one.
RedBaronFlyer wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:52 pmIt would somehow manage to pick Birdshot Station for headmin if we did that
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Re: "I put on by armor vest and seccie hat" nut
this ban is basically over too lol
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Re: "I put on by armor vest and seccie hat" nut
It does sound like the chaplain was the one escalating things, attacking with his 18-20 damage melee weapon after losing the first fight.
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Re: "I put on by armor vest and seccie hat" nut
I HAD IT RECORDED?
I think?
I hope.
I'll go back to you in an hour or two.
I was trying to descalate the conflict between jeff and people SO MUCH that round holy shit and it just was not happening. Pissed me off.
I was acting captain, and Jeff was just acting like an asshole that round, which is fine in character , but it caused the conflicts between him and the people around the bar. They just would not stop fighting between eachother holy shit. I got Jeff to leave the bar, to the peoples requests, and the chaplain and (traitor) barkeep LEAVES THE BAR TO FIGHT JEFF.
AAAAAAAAaaaaa
Jeff was not acting as security. An admin messaged me asking if he got deutised and I said: "Jeff is not sec. He got sec headset though? not sure how.". My response is probably what stopped him from getting a worse punishment.
later on the detective said something along being buddies with Jeff? That raised an eyebrow with me, maybe I should have said something?
I think?
I hope.
I'll go back to you in an hour or two.
I was trying to descalate the conflict between jeff and people SO MUCH that round holy shit and it just was not happening. Pissed me off.
I was acting captain, and Jeff was just acting like an asshole that round, which is fine in character , but it caused the conflicts between him and the people around the bar. They just would not stop fighting between eachother holy shit. I got Jeff to leave the bar, to the peoples requests, and the chaplain and (traitor) barkeep LEAVES THE BAR TO FIGHT JEFF.
AAAAAAAAaaaaa
Jeff was not acting as security. An admin messaged me asking if he got deutised and I said: "Jeff is not sec. He got sec headset though? not sure how.". My response is probably what stopped him from getting a worse punishment.
later on the detective said something along being buddies with Jeff? That raised an eyebrow with me, maybe I should have said something?
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Re: "I put on by armor vest and seccie hat" nut
Goddamnit Jeff. I knew you were going to get into trouble when I saw you being an assistant a bunch.
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Super Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 5:11 pm I assume he did it elsewhere because it's fucking goofball and he never half-asses his shitty ideas, he full asses them so both cheeks are absolutely slathered in shit
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Re: "I put on by armor vest and seccie hat" nut
I had it recorded guys. I'm editing it up.
I was listening to music that round so there will be some background music but thats fine!
Ill also post it on the actual thread as evidence, because of that I will not put any peanutty comments that I have on the video and type it up here once its done.
I was listening to music that round so there will be some background music but thats fine!
Ill also post it on the actual thread as evidence, because of that I will not put any peanutty comments that I have on the video and type it up here once its done.
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Re: "I put on by armor vest and seccie hat" nut
Here it is.
Goodness, Jeff did not understand why people were not happy with him. I put the first few clips as context, as to why I was not happy with Jeff from the beginning. As soon as he shoved the gun from me I had a bad vibe, which is why I opened the med door and left straight away. His comments in comms after that actually made me a bit angry. I am good at hiding anger though (Apathetic trait character RP for the win?). Plus, its fun to have assholes in a round? I dont know... I am 75 percent sure the crew noticed how he acted towards me and is why they are all acting like that towards to him after that.
I also like to type things then cancel it, so if there was any speak that did not show up, thats why. (Me typing die and canceling it was funny but I am 99 percent sure I was trying to type dude.)
Also, some more notes about the edit: I cut some of the interactions of jeff as it does not pertain to the ban appeal. Also, while I was eating the watermelon thing I cut some of it out because I didnt see anything and I didnt want to hear too many eating noises. I was chewing on that food item for AGES.
There was also a comms conversation at the beginning of the round in which somebody said jeff was bad (cant remember wording), which had me following up saying the crew can deal with threats as there is no sec. I forgot to add into the recording.
Also I mis remembered them leaving the bar to fight Jeff, he went in and wall shoved one of them... fukin hell.
Goodness, Jeff did not understand why people were not happy with him. I put the first few clips as context, as to why I was not happy with Jeff from the beginning. As soon as he shoved the gun from me I had a bad vibe, which is why I opened the med door and left straight away. His comments in comms after that actually made me a bit angry. I am good at hiding anger though (Apathetic trait character RP for the win?). Plus, its fun to have assholes in a round? I dont know... I am 75 percent sure the crew noticed how he acted towards me and is why they are all acting like that towards to him after that.
I also like to type things then cancel it, so if there was any speak that did not show up, thats why. (Me typing die and canceling it was funny but I am 99 percent sure I was trying to type dude.)
Also, some more notes about the edit: I cut some of the interactions of jeff as it does not pertain to the ban appeal. Also, while I was eating the watermelon thing I cut some of it out because I didnt see anything and I didnt want to hear too many eating noises. I was chewing on that food item for AGES.
There was also a comms conversation at the beginning of the round in which somebody said jeff was bad (cant remember wording), which had me following up saying the crew can deal with threats as there is no sec. I forgot to add into the recording.
Also I mis remembered them leaving the bar to fight Jeff, he went in and wall shoved one of them... fukin hell.
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Re: "I put on by armor vest and seccie hat" nut
What's the point of escalation rules if people are getting banned for following it anyway?
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 14, 2023 3:21 pm The rules exist to create the biggest possible chance of a cool shift of SS13. They don't exist to allow admins to create the most boring interpretation of SS13.
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Re: "I put on by armor vest and seccie hat" nut
ic minor crime…
followed escalation policy…
cremating someone’s (one piece of) gear because they picked a fight and lost is extremely in character and is genuinely good roleplay. don’t pick stupid fights. if you pick stupid fights then you should in character deal with the consequences.
i can understand going “hey man just avoid picking up sec gear, you’re sec banned” but painting it as roleplay rule 7 is crazy- let alone noting/banning for it! if they actively broke in then knock them for that under rule 7. but they didn’t break in. they walked in. if they were validhunting then obviously they’re job evading- but they weren’t validhunting so
idk seems like jeff is in the right here
followed escalation policy…
cremating someone’s (one piece of) gear because they picked a fight and lost is extremely in character and is genuinely good roleplay. don’t pick stupid fights. if you pick stupid fights then you should in character deal with the consequences.
i can understand going “hey man just avoid picking up sec gear, you’re sec banned” but painting it as roleplay rule 7 is crazy- let alone noting/banning for it! if they actively broke in then knock them for that under rule 7. but they didn’t break in. they walked in. if they were validhunting then obviously they’re job evading- but they weren’t validhunting so
idk seems like jeff is in the right here
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Re: "I put on by armor vest and seccie hat" nut
If you're being a complete dick that is.iwishforducks wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 7:30 am ic minor crime…
followed escalation policy…
cremating someone’s (one piece of) gear because they picked a fight and lost is extremely in character and is genuinely good roleplay. don’t pick stupid fights. if you pick stupid fights then you should in character deal with the consequences.
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Re: "I put on by armor vest and seccie hat" nut
people who pick stupid fucking fights need to be taught to 1. not pick stupid fights and 2. not lose their stupid fights - if it wasn’t a dick move then it wouldn’t teach them anythingArchie700 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 7:34 amIf you're being a complete dick that is.iwishforducks wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 7:30 am ic minor crime…
followed escalation policy…
cremating someone’s (one piece of) gear because they picked a fight and lost is extremely in character and is genuinely good roleplay. don’t pick stupid fights. if you pick stupid fights then you should in character deal with the consequences.
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Re: "I put on by armor vest and seccie hat" nut
So, Jeff?iwishforducks wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 7:45 ampeople who pick stupid fucking fights need to be taught to 1. not pick stupid fights and 2. not lose their stupid fights - if it wasn’t a dick move then it wouldn’t teach them anythingArchie700 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 7:34 amIf you're being a complete dick that is.iwishforducks wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 7:30 am ic minor crime…
followed escalation policy…
cremating someone’s (one piece of) gear because they picked a fight and lost is extremely in character and is genuinely good roleplay. don’t pick stupid fights. if you pick stupid fights then you should in character deal with the consequences.
Around 9 minutes, when captain de-escalated, Jeff went out on captain's request after the bartender said it very clear he was banned but did not want to touch him as he will attack her...only to SUDDENLY COME BACK IN TO CONTINUE THE FIGHT.
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Re: "I put on by armor vest and seccie hat" nut
So? Jeff isn't whining about the outcome of the fight. Both obviously wanted to.Archie700 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 7:54 amSo, Jeff?iwishforducks wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 7:45 ampeople who pick stupid fucking fights need to be taught to 1. not pick stupid fights and 2. not lose their stupid fights - if it wasn’t a dick move then it wouldn’t teach them anythingArchie700 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 7:34 amIf you're being a complete dick that is.iwishforducks wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 7:30 am ic minor crime…
followed escalation policy…
cremating someone’s (one piece of) gear because they picked a fight and lost is extremely in character and is genuinely good roleplay. don’t pick stupid fights. if you pick stupid fights then you should in character deal with the consequences.
Around 9 minutes, when captain de-escalated, Jeff went out on captain's request after the bartender said it very clear he was banned but did not want to touch him as he will attack her...only to SUDDENLY COME BACK IN TO CONTINUE THE FIGHT.
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 14, 2023 3:21 pm The rules exist to create the biggest possible chance of a cool shift of SS13. They don't exist to allow admins to create the most boring interpretation of SS13.
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Re: "I put on by armor vest and seccie hat" nut
He cremated EVERY SINGLE ITEM (apart from PDA without the ID) that the chaplain had. The only item that was not curated was the scythe, and thats because it gets absorbed into the body. They had no ID for ages after that because the HoP locker was teleported away by a bluespace anomaly somewhere.
Edit2: Apparently the ID was not cremated? The original ID was never found though, and I had to make a new one from a braindead assistant's id.
EDIT3:Either I'm blind or stupid. He only cremated the armour and one other thing apparently. Yeah, ain't as bad.
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Re: "I put on by armor vest and seccie hat" nut
I like to go full psycho and annoy them all shift if someone does this to meiwishforducks wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 7:30 am cremating someone’s (one piece of) gear because they picked a fight and lost is extremely in character and is genuinely good roleplay. don’t pick stupid fights. if you pick stupid fights then you should in character deal with the consequences.
joooks wrote:Quoting a legend, at least im not a faggot lolNaloac wrote:
In short, this appeal is denied. Suck my nuts retard.
See you in 12 months unless you blacklist me for this
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pikeyeskey13 wrote: ↑ ok don't forget to shove it up your ass lmao oops u can delete this one I just wanted to make sure it went through
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Re: "I put on by armor vest and seccie hat" nut
Dear lord what is this take.iwishforducks wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 7:30 am cremating someone’s (one piece of) gear because they picked a fight and lost is extremely in character and is genuinely good roleplay.
From RPR rule 8:
"Childish or infantile characters should be avoided, whilst silly characters should be roleplayed properly. There's a good chance your character still wants to have a job at the end of the day, so you should probably act like it."
If you think it's ok to burn all of someone's possessions at work you're a psycho. Just play LRP, there's where the psychos live. Or do it as an antag.
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Armhulen wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2023 11:08 pmThe Spessmen Times wrote:Prohibition agent Sam Salamander bragged that he could find a metacord in any server in under 30 minutes. In Bagil it took him 21 minutes. In Sybil 17 minutes, and Manuel just 11 minutes. But Terry set the record of 35 seconds. Sam asked an assistant on the arrivals shuttle where to get a discord invite, and the assistant linked him one.
RedBaronFlyer wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:52 pmIt would somehow manage to pick Birdshot Station for headmin if we did that
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Re: "I put on by armor vest and seccie hat" nut
False chief. I only cremated two pieces of equipment, the external armor. I used the ID for crematorium access. The rest was left on the floor of the medbay lobby which you can actually see from your own video lol.
He cremated EVERY SINGLE ITEM (apart from PDA without the ID) that the chaplain had. The only item that was not curated was the scythe, and thats because it gets absorbed into the body. They had no ID for ages after that because the HoP locker was teleported away by a bluespace anomaly somewhere.
Edit2: Apparently the ID was not cremated? The original ID was never found though, and I had to make a new one from a braindead assistant's id.
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Re: "I put on by armor vest and seccie hat" nut
JupiterJaeden wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 11:07 am The ban is expired now but if you are not going to lift this note I want headmin review. I'm not gonna sugarcoat it anymore because the ban (especially the escalation policy part of it) is absolutely ridiculous. Literally a trial admin moment. You have a little more ground to stand on with the sec gear thing but I've already explained that 1) I didn't use any of it to validhunt or evade my sec ban (which expired like a few hours after this one was placed btw), 2) I had an IC reason for it earlier (trolling the detective), and 3) It was an extremely minor theft in the first place
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Armhulen wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2023 11:08 pmThe Spessmen Times wrote:Prohibition agent Sam Salamander bragged that he could find a metacord in any server in under 30 minutes. In Bagil it took him 21 minutes. In Sybil 17 minutes, and Manuel just 11 minutes. But Terry set the record of 35 seconds. Sam asked an assistant on the arrivals shuttle where to get a discord invite, and the assistant linked him one.
RedBaronFlyer wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:52 pmIt would somehow manage to pick Birdshot Station for headmin if we did that
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Re: "I put on by armor vest and seccie hat" nut
this thread is about you but it isn't for you jeff.
i was actually on the fence until i saw the video and looked up the logs and everything jeff does hits me as what manuel lovingly calls "being an annoying shitter". walking around with looted sec gear, shoving the captain for having their gun out, starting petty fights with people who have an issue with you because you're being belligerent and threatening people, all around just being an absolute toad for the sake of it. it's all very entertaining.
as you said before: there was barely any active security that round because it was lowpop. in those situations we generally give the crew a lot more leniency to sort their own problems out. it sounds like they were trying to do so with you.
so tiding and looting sec gear? dangIt's an entirely other thing if I'm stealing it to troll the detective and because it looks cool.
no because you were secbanned so you cannot perform the role of security.on lowpop with like one seccie I would have been justified to do this anyways though lol
i was actually on the fence until i saw the video and looked up the logs and everything jeff does hits me as what manuel lovingly calls "being an annoying shitter". walking around with looted sec gear, shoving the captain for having their gun out, starting petty fights with people who have an issue with you because you're being belligerent and threatening people, all around just being an absolute toad for the sake of it. it's all very entertaining.
as you said before: there was barely any active security that round because it was lowpop. in those situations we generally give the crew a lot more leniency to sort their own problems out. it sounds like they were trying to do so with you.
Literally a trial admin moment.
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Re: "I put on by armor vest and seccie hat" nut
But seriously, just scrap escalation policy if y'all hate actual IC conflict so much on Manuel.
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 14, 2023 3:21 pm The rules exist to create the biggest possible chance of a cool shift of SS13. They don't exist to allow admins to create the most boring interpretation of SS13.
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Re: "I put on by armor vest and seccie hat" nut
The thing to bear in mind is that the RP rules are still in effect side by side with escalation policy. You don't need to nix it entirely...but if people insist in following escalation policy while ignoring the rest of the server rules, admins will continue to tally the ban quota. Following one rule is not an excuse to ignoring the rest. They are there for a reason.
That being said escalation policy generates more enflamed discussions in the admin channels than naming policy, enough to char the ivory so hard it turns into the fucking tower of sauron. I think it needs to be re-written with the same conveyed message but in clearer terms so that players don't fall victim of abstraction.
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Armhulen wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2023 11:08 pmThe Spessmen Times wrote:Prohibition agent Sam Salamander bragged that he could find a metacord in any server in under 30 minutes. In Bagil it took him 21 minutes. In Sybil 17 minutes, and Manuel just 11 minutes. But Terry set the record of 35 seconds. Sam asked an assistant on the arrivals shuttle where to get a discord invite, and the assistant linked him one.
RedBaronFlyer wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:52 pmIt would somehow manage to pick Birdshot Station for headmin if we did that
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Re: "I put on by armor vest and seccie hat" nut
Every time this happens everyone starts fishing for excuses for why this time it totally wasn't allowed. Taking some armour from an unlocked locker that has been reported multiple times suddenly becomes egregious power gaming and horrible greytide. Everything that is even remotely not nice is being tried to shoehorn into rule 1 as "a dick move" in this fight where people try to kill each other with lethal weapons. God forbid you take away the weapons and/or armour of the person that tried to murder you. It is all just excuses because what you actually hate is the fact that the conflict itself occurred.conrad wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 1:56 pmThe thing to bear in mind is that the RP rules are still in effect side by side with escalation policy. You don't need to nix it entirely...but if people insist in following escalation policy while ignoring the rest of the server rules, admins will continue to tally the ban quota. Following one rule is not an excuse to ignoring the rest. They are there for a reason.
That being said escalation policy generates more enflamed discussions in the admin channels than naming policy, enough to char the ivory so hard it turns into the fucking tower of sauron. I think it needs to be re-written with the same conveyed message but in clearer terms so that players don't fall victim of abstraction.
See? Doesn't matter if there is escalation policy. You all just hate IC conflict and if you stop pretending you don't we would stop getting these drama threads every other week.Constellado wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 3:50 am
I was trying to descalate the conflict between jeff and people SO MUCH that round holy shit and it just was not happening. Pissed me off.
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 14, 2023 3:21 pm The rules exist to create the biggest possible chance of a cool shift of SS13. They don't exist to allow admins to create the most boring interpretation of SS13.
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Re: "I put on by armor vest and seccie hat" nut
we have lots of IC non-antag conflict on manuel but using the ban appeal forums and peanut threads as a barometer for it will not show you this. you just get the messy bullshit.
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Re: "I put on by armor vest and seccie hat" nut
what does a player's desire to try to deescalate have to do with admin enforcement of escalation policy?CPTANT wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 2:24 pmSee? Doesn't matter if there is escalation policy. You all just hate IC conflict and if you stop pretending you don't we would stop getting these drama threads every other week.Constellado wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 3:50 am
I was trying to descalate the conflict between jeff and people SO MUCH that round holy shit and it just was not happening. Pissed me off.
this is a stupid series of posts tbqh
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Re: "I put on by armor vest and seccie hat" nut
If you are "Pissed off" someone is instigating IC conflict you obviously see it as a bad thing. It is a generalization of course, but more than half the people here are trying to come up with excuses (or for some reason outright try to invent facts).
bait.
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 14, 2023 3:21 pm The rules exist to create the biggest possible chance of a cool shift of SS13. They don't exist to allow admins to create the most boring interpretation of SS13.
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Re: "I put on by armor vest and seccie hat" nut
manuel and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race
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Re: "I put on by armor vest and seccie hat" nut
You sound like you're forced to play manuel.iwishforducks wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 4:04 pm manuel and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race
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Armhulen wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2023 11:08 pmThe Spessmen Times wrote:Prohibition agent Sam Salamander bragged that he could find a metacord in any server in under 30 minutes. In Bagil it took him 21 minutes. In Sybil 17 minutes, and Manuel just 11 minutes. But Terry set the record of 35 seconds. Sam asked an assistant on the arrivals shuttle where to get a discord invite, and the assistant linked him one.
RedBaronFlyer wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:52 pmIt would somehow manage to pick Birdshot Station for headmin if we did that
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Re: "I put on by armor vest and seccie hat" nut
manuel is pretty good in its current state. but admins need to be more consistent in what is and isnt acceptable sometimes
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Re: "I put on by armor vest and seccie hat" nut
I mean for sanity sake you should have every right to get rid of an item that someone is using to grief you with but their id idk just take some credits from it at a slap on the wrist the first time, id theft is only really something you can do if you can permabrig/rr them (or demote but thats a special case)
cremating the chaps shit is funny but i think cutting off their arm to get their scythe and then cremate that would have been more sanctioned.
Or is the scythe shitcode and it doesnt actually exist within your arm?
The armor im not so sure about, all it does it protect the chap from lethal damage when you can just winstick him with a stun baton so idk taking that from him is kinda pointless and sets him up to die more easily to other things and be round removed by something else.
cremating the chaps shit is funny but i think cutting off their arm to get their scythe and then cremate that would have been more sanctioned.
Or is the scythe shitcode and it doesnt actually exist within your arm?
The armor im not so sure about, all it does it protect the chap from lethal damage when you can just winstick him with a stun baton so idk taking that from him is kinda pointless and sets him up to die more easily to other things and be round removed by something else.
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Re: "I put on by armor vest and seccie hat" nut
I was pissed of at that fight in particular. I like fights such as: Two departments fighting each other over material usage. Or mutinying the captain over not holding the disk. Or something like an invisible friend causing a person to do something crazy creating conflict.
This one felt pretty from both sides and just kept going. It felt like shitty drama caused by people being a bit mean or whatnot. Give me something with a more juicy IC reasoning please. It did not feel like a fun fulfilling conflict.
Ah, woops, I mis-saw.JupiterJaeden wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 11:18 amFalse chief. I only cremated two pieces of equipment, the external armor. I used the ID for crematorium access. The rest was left on the floor of the medbay lobby which you can actually see from your own video lol.
He cremated EVERY SINGLE ITEM (apart from PDA without the ID) that the chaplain had. The only item that was not curated was the scythe, and thats because it gets absorbed into the body. They had no ID for ages after that because the HoP locker was teleported away by a bluespace anomaly somewhere.
Edit2: Apparently the ID was not cremated? The original ID was never found though, and I had to make a new one from a braindead assistant's id.
I still had to get a new ID. x.x
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Re: "I put on by armor vest and seccie hat" nut
If you pull out a deadly weapon like a chaplain magic sword and ahelp because they destroyed your combat gear when you failed to murder them in a fight you started, you should probbably be banned for a minimum of a day to cool off.
Conrad I dont know how you can, with a straight face, say this about someone starting fights and trying to MURDER THEIR COWORKER WITH A MAGIC SWORD.conrad wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 10:25 am From RPR rule 8:
"Childish or infantile characters should be avoided, whilst silly characters should be roleplayed properly. There's a good chance your character still wants to have a job at the end of the day, so you should probably act like it."
If you think it's ok to burn all of someone's possessions at work you're a psycho. Just play LRP, there's where the psychos live. Or do it as an antag.
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Player who complainted over being killed for looting cap office wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2023 1:33 am Hey there, I'm Virescent, the super evil person who made the stupid appeal and didn't think it through enough. Just came here to say: screech, retards. Screech and writhe like the worms you are. Your pathetic little cries will keep echoing around for a while before quietting down. There is one great outcome from this: I rised up the blood pressure of some of you shitheads and lowered your lifespan. I'm honestly tempted to do this more often just to see you screech and writhe more, but that wouldn't be cool of me. So come on haters, show me some more of your high blood pressure please.
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Re: "I put on by armor vest and seccie hat" nut
Yeah, that scythe screams: THIS IS GOING LETHAL. It was correct escalation from Jeff in my opinion. I only ahelped the cremating thing, I thought that he cremated everything at that point. Turns out no, so I am okay with that.Not-Dorsidarf wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 10:03 pm If you pull out a deadly weapon like a chaplain magic sword and ahelp because they destroyed your combat gear when you failed to murder them in a fight you started, you should probbably be banned for a minimum of a day to cool off.
Conrad I dont know how you can, with a straight face, say this about someone starting fights and trying to MURDER THEIR COWORKER WITH A MAGIC SWORD.conrad wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 10:25 am From RPR rule 8:
"Childish or infantile characters should be avoided, whilst silly characters should be roleplayed properly. There's a good chance your character still wants to have a job at the end of the day, so you should probably act like it."
If you think it's ok to burn all of someone's possessions at work you're a psycho. Just play LRP, there's where the psychos live. Or do it as an antag.
But yeah, this screams edgecase, and feels more about the conduct over the actual actions that took place.
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Re: "I put on by armor vest and seccie hat" nut
If admins actually enforced RP Rule 8 half of the greytiding shitheads that always get a free pass on MRP would cease to exist, I've never once seen that rule actually cited and I doubt most players even know it exists eitherDear lord what is this take.
From RPR rule 8:
"Childish or infantile characters should be avoided, whilst silly characters should be roleplayed properly. There's a good chance your character still wants to have a job at the end of the day, so you should probably act like it."
If you think it's ok to burn all of someone's possessions at work you're a psycho. Just play LRP, there's where the psychos live. Or do it as an antag.
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Re: "I put on by armor vest and seccie hat" nut
First, Jibreel did not report Jeff, someone else did.Not-Dorsidarf wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 10:03 pm If you pull out a deadly weapon like a chaplain magic sword and ahelp because they destroyed your combat gear when you failed to murder them in a fight you started, you should probbably be banned for a minimum of a day to cool off.
Conrad I dont know how you can, with a straight face, say this about someone starting fights and trying to MURDER THEIR COWORKER WITH A MAGIC SWORD.conrad wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 10:25 am From RPR rule 8:
"Childish or infantile characters should be avoided, whilst silly characters should be roleplayed properly. There's a good chance your character still wants to have a job at the end of the day, so you should probably act like it."
If you think it's ok to burn all of someone's possessions at work you're a psycho. Just play LRP, there's where the psychos live. Or do it as an antag.
Second, it's escalation due to the fact that Jeff tossed them off a z-level, according to Jeff himself.
Third, it seems Jeff was also trying to start fights, according to the video.3) I did not immediately resort to lethal levels of force, instead simply tossing the chaplain off into the undertram.
4) They came back and started attacking me again, this time with a significantly more lethal weapon (vorpal scythe).
There's a specific instance where after the captain calmed everyone down and took Jeff out of the bar (which he was banned from), Jeff suddenly came back in to push the chaplain
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNHrc3KoiPQ&t=579s
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Re: "I put on by armor vest and seccie hat" nut
Two orangutans don't make one full person.Not-Dorsidarf wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 10:03 pm If you pull out a deadly weapon like a chaplain magic sword and ahelp because they destroyed your combat gear when you failed to murder them in a fight you started, you should probbably be banned for a minimum of a day to cool off.
Conrad I dont know how you can, with a straight face, say this about someone starting fights and trying to MURDER THEIR COWORKER WITH A MAGIC SWORD.conrad wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 10:25 am From RPR rule 8:
"Childish or infantile characters should be avoided, whilst silly characters should be roleplayed properly. There's a good chance your character still wants to have a job at the end of the day, so you should probably act like it."
If you think it's ok to burn all of someone's possessions at work you're a psycho. Just play LRP, there's where the psychos live. Or do it as an antag.
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Armhulen wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2023 11:08 pmThe Spessmen Times wrote:Prohibition agent Sam Salamander bragged that he could find a metacord in any server in under 30 minutes. In Bagil it took him 21 minutes. In Sybil 17 minutes, and Manuel just 11 minutes. But Terry set the record of 35 seconds. Sam asked an assistant on the arrivals shuttle where to get a discord invite, and the assistant linked him one.
RedBaronFlyer wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:52 pmIt would somehow manage to pick Birdshot Station for headmin if we did that
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Re: "I put on by armor vest and seccie hat" nut
RP rules aren’t enforced unless there’re add on charges, we’ve had people who regularly wordlessly tide on the regular for months now.DaydreamIQ wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 11:03 pmIf admins actually enforced RP Rule 8 half of the greytiding shitheads that always get a free pass on MRP would cease to exist, I've never once seen that rule actually cited and I doubt most players even know it exists eitherDear lord what is this take.
From RPR rule 8:
"Childish or infantile characters should be avoided, whilst silly characters should be roleplayed properly. There's a good chance your character still wants to have a job at the end of the day, so you should probably act like it."
If you think it's ok to burn all of someone's possessions at work you're a psycho. Just play LRP, there's where the psychos live. Or do it as an antag.
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Super Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 5:11 pm I assume he did it elsewhere because it's fucking goofball and he never half-asses his shitty ideas, he full asses them so both cheeks are absolutely slathered in shit
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Re: "I put on by armor vest and seccie hat" nut
If people are wordlessly tiding on Manuel please ahelp that
We aren't omniscient about about the round.
That being said, just because admins say it's an IC Issue doesn't mean they shouldn't watch the person afterwards.
We aren't omniscient about about the round.
That being said, just because admins say it's an IC Issue doesn't mean they shouldn't watch the person afterwards.
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Re: "I put on by armor vest and seccie hat" pumpkin post
they're called pumpkin posts!!!
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Re: "I put on by armor vest and seccie hat" nut
This is a stupid take.conrad wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 11:31 pmTwo orangutans don't make one full person.Not-Dorsidarf wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 10:03 pm If you pull out a deadly weapon like a chaplain magic sword and ahelp because they destroyed your combat gear when you failed to murder them in a fight you started, you should probbably be banned for a minimum of a day to cool off.
Conrad I dont know how you can, with a straight face, say this about someone starting fights and trying to MURDER THEIR COWORKER WITH A MAGIC SWORD.conrad wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 10:25 am From RPR rule 8:
"Childish or infantile characters should be avoided, whilst silly characters should be roleplayed properly. There's a good chance your character still wants to have a job at the end of the day, so you should probably act like it."
If you think it's ok to burn all of someone's possessions at work you're a psycho. Just play LRP, there's where the psychos live. Or do it as an antag.
If my coworker tries to murder me with a magic sword I am burning everything he's used in the fight in the hopes that maybe he'll fuck off and not try to do that again, because he's not going to stay down, and he'll be out of jail before I clock off.
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Re: "I put on by armor vest and seccie hat" nut
If you pin your hopes on him somehow fucking off when you destroy his stuff then you are going to be sorely disappointed when you are lying face down while he is standing over you.CMDR_Gungnir wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 2:11 amThis is a stupid take.conrad wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 11:31 pmTwo orangutans don't make one full person.Not-Dorsidarf wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 10:03 pm If you pull out a deadly weapon like a chaplain magic sword and ahelp because they destroyed your combat gear when you failed to murder them in a fight you started, you should probbably be banned for a minimum of a day to cool off.
Conrad I dont know how you can, with a straight face, say this about someone starting fights and trying to MURDER THEIR COWORKER WITH A MAGIC SWORD.conrad wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 10:25 am From RPR rule 8:
"Childish or infantile characters should be avoided, whilst silly characters should be roleplayed properly. There's a good chance your character still wants to have a job at the end of the day, so you should probably act like it."
If you think it's ok to burn all of someone's possessions at work you're a psycho. Just play LRP, there's where the psychos live. Or do it as an antag.
If my coworker tries to murder me with a magic sword I am burning everything he's used in the fight in the hopes that maybe he'll fuck off and not try to do that again, because he's not going to stay down, and he'll be out of jail before I clock off.
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Re: "I put on by armor vest and seccie hat" nut
You're tossing someone off during a fight. It's not a willing disengagement of the fight on behalf of the victim.
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Re: "I put on by armor vest and seccie hat" nut
Literal a hippiestation shitsec behavior. Jeff, you can do better.
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Re: "I put on by armor vest and seccie hat" nut
Assuming he does, in fact, still try to murder me again now that his magic sword and armour has been destroyed, I will stand a much better chance in the fight as he no longer has his magic sword and armour.Archie700 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 2:55 amIf you pin your hopes on him somehow fucking off when you destroy his stuff then you are going to be sorely disappointed when you are lying face down while he is standing over you.CMDR_Gungnir wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 2:11 amThis is a stupid take.conrad wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 11:31 pmTwo orangutans don't make one full person.Not-Dorsidarf wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 10:03 pm If you pull out a deadly weapon like a chaplain magic sword and ahelp because they destroyed your combat gear when you failed to murder them in a fight you started, you should probbably be banned for a minimum of a day to cool off.
Conrad I dont know how you can, with a straight face, say this about someone starting fights and trying to MURDER THEIR COWORKER WITH A MAGIC SWORD.conrad wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 10:25 am From RPR rule 8:
"Childish or infantile characters should be avoided, whilst silly characters should be roleplayed properly. There's a good chance your character still wants to have a job at the end of the day, so you should probably act like it."
If you think it's ok to burn all of someone's possessions at work you're a psycho. Just play LRP, there's where the psychos live. Or do it as an antag.
If my coworker tries to murder me with a magic sword I am burning everything he's used in the fight in the hopes that maybe he'll fuck off and not try to do that again, because he's not going to stay down, and he'll be out of jail before I clock off.
The point is that it's not a psycho thing to do after that coworker has just tried to murder you with a magic sword.
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Re: "I put on by armor vest and seccie hat" nut
Me when I still get murdered by the guy who tried to murder me (I was nice and didn’t destroy his stuff)Archie700 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 2:55 amIf you pin your hopes on him somehow fucking off when you destroy his stuff then you are going to be sorely disappointed when you are lying face down while he is standing over you.CMDR_Gungnir wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 2:11 amThis is a stupid take.conrad wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 11:31 pmTwo orangutans don't make one full person.Not-Dorsidarf wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 10:03 pm If you pull out a deadly weapon like a chaplain magic sword and ahelp because they destroyed your combat gear when you failed to murder them in a fight you started, you should probbably be banned for a minimum of a day to cool off.
Conrad I dont know how you can, with a straight face, say this about someone starting fights and trying to MURDER THEIR COWORKER WITH A MAGIC SWORD.conrad wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 10:25 am From RPR rule 8:
"Childish or infantile characters should be avoided, whilst silly characters should be roleplayed properly. There's a good chance your character still wants to have a job at the end of the day, so you should probably act like it."
If you think it's ok to burn all of someone's possessions at work you're a psycho. Just play LRP, there's where the psychos live. Or do it as an antag.
If my coworker tries to murder me with a magic sword I am burning everything he's used in the fight in the hopes that maybe he'll fuck off and not try to do that again, because he's not going to stay down, and he'll be out of jail before I clock off.
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Super Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 5:11 pm I assume he did it elsewhere because it's fucking goofball and he never half-asses his shitty ideas, he full asses them so both cheeks are absolutely slathered in shit
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Re: "I put on by armor vest and seccie hat" nut
You're stripping the entire thing out of the preceeding conflict like the chaplain went for lethals immediately and fnr.
Rules as the are the "magic sword and magic armor" chaplain followed conflict escalation, so did Jeff, up until the point he went goblin and burned the chaps ID and armor. You could argue that Jeff was on the receiving end from the start and therefore the defending party on the conflict, thus being entitled to continue conflict since the defending party sets the pace of it. And that would give carte blanche for people to be goblins, get hit on something that does HP damage once and abusing the rules to justify stripping people of their shit after conflict was over.
Which is not what the escalation rules are for. They are not for people to suddenly self antag or bait conflict. They are, as Timberpoes put it, for people to engage in conflict without being antagonists and without being hit with administrative action.
It's a shame they're poorly written. We wouldn't be having this conversation otherwise.
Rules as the are the "magic sword and magic armor" chaplain followed conflict escalation, so did Jeff, up until the point he went goblin and burned the chaps ID and armor. You could argue that Jeff was on the receiving end from the start and therefore the defending party on the conflict, thus being entitled to continue conflict since the defending party sets the pace of it. And that would give carte blanche for people to be goblins, get hit on something that does HP damage once and abusing the rules to justify stripping people of their shit after conflict was over.
Which is not what the escalation rules are for. They are not for people to suddenly self antag or bait conflict. They are, as Timberpoes put it, for people to engage in conflict without being antagonists and without being hit with administrative action.
It's a shame they're poorly written. We wouldn't be having this conversation otherwise.
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Armhulen wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2023 11:08 pmThe Spessmen Times wrote:Prohibition agent Sam Salamander bragged that he could find a metacord in any server in under 30 minutes. In Bagil it took him 21 minutes. In Sybil 17 minutes, and Manuel just 11 minutes. But Terry set the record of 35 seconds. Sam asked an assistant on the arrivals shuttle where to get a discord invite, and the assistant linked him one.
RedBaronFlyer wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:52 pmIt would somehow manage to pick Birdshot Station for headmin if we did that
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