two nutters RR'd from /tg/station community by MSO

[BonChoi]

Bottom post of the previous page:

Forum poster newbie makes shitty thread title

[Not-Dorsidarf]

COST OF CHASING TIDERS: TIME, EFFORT, POSSIBLE LOSS OF POSSESSIONS (IF YOU'RE A NOOB LIKE SEAL)
GAIN OF CHASING TIDERS: ???

COST OF CHASING ANTAGONISTS: YOU MIGHT DIE
GAIN OF CHASING ANTAGONISTS: THE SURVIVAL OF THE STATION AND ITS CREW, GAMERGEAR, EPIC BATTLES

Only COWARDS focus on tiders because they're AFRAID of engaging ACTUAL threats.

"Nice, said the hangman and pulled the lever.

Alfred Spangler died.

It was generally agreed that they had been good last words.

- Sir Terry Pratchett, Going Postal.

[Armhulen]

i hope im next at this point. i havent even done anything but i hope they find something to get me banned. make something up for all i care. if they're gonna go down the line banning deadminning and blacklisting all my friends then whats the fucking point of being here. waiting to see who's next to go? hanging out with everyone celebrating them being gone? i fucking hate this

Big condolences from me fren because it really sucks to lose friends in a community where some get pushed out and some stay inside, make sure to stay in contact with them wherever they go (could still be ss13 community). You'll find new peeps here to hang with in time.

[Hulkamania]

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[Kendrickorium]

i hope im next at this point. i havent even done anything but i hope they find something to get me banned. make something up for all i care. if they're gonna go down the line banning deadminning and blacklisting all my friends then whats the fucking point of being here. waiting to see who's next to go? hanging out with everyone celebrating them being gone? i fucking hate this

yup pretty sad

MSO is known for making quick decision banning so i don't even blame him

after getting some details from sinful i can say that (if these details are true) that the current headmin team is absolutely fucking bonkers.
like spending hours of their time digging up enough information to ban people because they are literal fucking drama vampires bonkers. (this includes the recent admin deadminning and sun catton permaing)

literally none of this is as bad as vekter or any purple name says it is.

if i'm missing any info here feel free to clear it up for me otherwise i'll see yall when the red names are gone

>sinful and pepper now have more time for shiptest

[Blacklist897]

>sinful and pepper now have more time for shiptest

But will sinful get banned on shiptest for pen theft?

[Armhulen]

if i'm missing any info here feel free to clear it up for me otherwise i'll see yall when the red names are gone

I'm gonna carry on as I always do, but it does make me ask:
I feel like I'm missing a lot of primary sources, getting a lot of one sided stories, maybe reliable maybe not narrators and not seeing the very messages/actions people did something that led to a ban, that led to blacklist, etc. Are we going to learn more? It seems like a circus balancing act between "trust me bro" and leaking someone's private messages and other sensitive stuff. But surely what we know right now isn't enough, we know the "why" but I just want to see the "what" or else of course friends of sinful and pepper are gonna feel like they're getting sniped one by one while everyone whoops and cheers

[dendydoom]

im on the fence about sharing leaked messages from the discord. people want answers and proof but i said as much back when the manuel metagang was banned: it feels weird to air dirty laundry like that from what is most likely a personal place where very personal conversations happened. is it right to then just dump all that in a public space and let people feed on it just to get naysayers and critics off our back? i'm not so sure.

[Kendrickorium]

all in the name of "LE EVIL TOXICITY"

what a fucking bogeyman.

[Armhulen]

If I trust one side, people went way too far with the bones they had to pick and started bullying and harrassing people out of the server. If I trust the other, someone just got copped for private opinions aired where they weren't meant to be. You know what the difference is? What people actually typed and sent in that private discord. "I hate x" is an opinion and voiced dislike, "I'm going to make life as painful for x as I can while i'm in this community" is a completely different thing that feeds into ongoing harrassment. Only way I personally can say whether it's the former or the latter is based off of what I see because even sorting that is subjective. All we can hope is that the majority sees the evidence and says "it made sense two people got blacklisted" because otherwise that's a big problem

im on the fence about sharing leaked messages from the discord. people want answers and proof but i said as much back when the manuel metagang was banned: it feels weird to air dirty laundry like that from what is most likely a personal place where very personal conversations happened.

is it right to then just dump all that in a public space and let people feed on it just to get naysayers and critics off our back? i'm not so sure.

it's not, but either we get security that justice was served or the people that were removed should agree justice was served. The fact there's a disagreement says we need to look at the evidence. The people removed say they were removed unfairly, offer their side of the story, but don't want the admin team to show what they have? Because it would be personal? Do you see the cactus I'm punching right now?

[kinnebian]

mfw the narrator is not reliable..

[Armhulen]

mfw the narrator is not reliable..

Okay before you dm me who are you
"kurt vonnegut"
FUCK

[c4g]

mfw the narrator is not reliable..

when has mso ever been

[kinnebian]

mfw the narrator is not reliable..

Okay before you dm me who are you
"kurt vonnegut"
FUCK

kek

[dendydoom]

If I trust one side, people went way too far with the bones they had to pick and started bullying and harrassing people out of the server. If I trust the other, someone just got copped for private opinions aired where they weren't meant to be. You know what the difference is? What people actually typed and sent in that private discord. "I hate x" is an opinion and voiced dislike, "I'm going to make life as painful for x as I can while i'm in this community" is a completely different thing that feeds into ongoing harrassment. Only way I personally can say whether it's the former or the latter is based off of what I see because even sorting that is subjective. All we can hope is that the majority sees the evidence and says "it made sense two people got blacklisted" because otherwise that's a big problem

im on the fence about sharing leaked messages from the discord. people want answers and proof but i said as much back when the manuel metagang was banned: it feels weird to air dirty laundry like that from what is most likely a personal place where very personal conversations happened.

is it right to then just dump all that in a public space and let people feed on it just to get naysayers and critics off our back? i'm not so sure.

it's not, but either we get security that justice was served or the people that were removed should agree justice was served. The fact there's a disagreement says we need to look at the evidence. The people removed say they were removed unfairly, offer their side of the story, but don't want the admin team to show what they have? Because it would be personal? Do you see the cactus I'm punching right now?

yes, those are good points - thank you for sharing. i imagine all that you can really do if you're dead set on releasing evidence is to edit it down to only the most absolutely relevant parts. but then again, what of the people that it supposedly targets? is it fair to them to be dragged into the middle of all of this? it may well be very uncomfortable for them.

the harsh reality of this is that it's also not a ban that any admin can place - it's a blacklist by the host that's unappealable. i feel like this changes things somewhat. whatever is released is only to sate people's curiosity, because this doesn't follow the procedure of an admin applying a ban which can then be overturned or appealed if it's found to be made incorrectly or on poor evidence. this can't be overturned by anyone but the host.

[Kendrickorium]

If I trust one side, people went way too far with the bones they had to pick and started bullying and harrassing people out of the server. If I trust the other, someone just got copped for private opinions aired where they weren't meant to be. You know what the difference is? What people actually typed and sent in that private discord. "I hate x" is an opinion and voiced dislike, "I'm going to make life as painful for x as I can while i'm in this community" is a completely different thing that feeds into ongoing harrassment. Only way I personally can say whether it's the former or the latter is based off of what I see because even sorting that is subjective. All we can hope is that the majority sees the evidence and says "it made sense two people got blacklisted" because otherwise that's a big problem

im on the fence about sharing leaked messages from the discord. people want answers and proof but i said as much back when the manuel metagang was banned: it feels weird to air dirty laundry like that from what is most likely a personal place where very personal conversations happened.

is it right to then just dump all that in a public space and let people feed on it just to get naysayers and critics off our back? i'm not so sure.

it's not, but either we get security that justice was served or the people that were removed should agree justice was served. The fact there's a disagreement says we need to look at the evidence. The people removed say they were removed unfairly, offer their side of the story, but don't want the admin team to show what they have? Because it would be personal? Do you see the cactus I'm punching right now?

yes, those are good points - thank you for sharing. i imagine all that you can really do if you're dead set on releasing evidence is to edit it down to only the most absolutely relevant parts. but then again, what of the people that it supposedly targets? is it fair to them to be dragged into the middle of all of this? it may well be very uncomfortable for them.

the harsh reality of this is that it's also not a ban that any admin can place - it's a blacklist by the host that's unappealable. i feel like this changes things somewhat. whatever is released is only to sate people's curiosity, because this doesn't follow the procedure of an admin applying a ban which can then be overturned or appealed if it's found to be made incorrectly or on poor evidence. this can't be overturned by anyone but the host.

i'm pretty sure at this point that the harsh reality is that what this boils down to is some purple names being friends with red names

[Armhulen]

at some point we will see what the deciding factors were and we won't have to chew the cud with filled in blanks about what happened

[oranges]

[Armhulen]

hey! vsauce, michael here. your private discord is very safe.

or is it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32EJg8lqJgQ

[Kendrickorium]

reminder that coder headmins are the only reason oranges has access to admin channel again

[wesoda25]

A coder headmin also removed him, so

at some point we will see what the deciding factors were and we won't have to chew the cud with filled in blanks about what happened

yep =/

[Capsandi]

...whats the fucking point of being here. waiting to see who's next to go? hanging out with everyone celebrating them being gone?...

What the hell did you think you've been doing here? What has anyone been doing in these peanut threads outside of celebrating that they can conform to some ultimately meaningless rules better than the banned user? Anyone who says that peanuts are a needed organ of some abstract community concept is lying through their ass. The peanut exists because you have no better way to entertain yourself than to enter a thread titled "ESCAL8TON NUT L E L" and to spend 3 minutes composing some reply to the effect of "This dumbass has no self control in the gaze of the admin!" or "AD(OLF)MIN L E L". The door is always open, but you don't leave? Mayhaps I shall extrapolate these conditions to accuse you of lacking the ability to live a life of just, or perchance I mayhaps wear the face of a loved one and tell you that you need to sort yourself out GOODBYE GOODBYE. Oh but I cant leave what about my metafriends awww my metalfriends?!? AKTLY thats speak for aktually also known as haha i am taking the piss out of you. AKTLY if you cant justify wasting 6-8 hours a week on flame wars by any other name for a pfp then your a sociopath or a child okay. Y U SO MAD LEL.
LEL. I remember when I used to have conversations with people who didn't lie to themselves constantly in the pursuit of happiness. Are you happy?
The TG station social construct or "Community" not to be confused with the world outside your head in which no such thing exists, is... well, its a grouping of people- well, nobody belongs to it themselves so its not actually a group. Even if you can't find bespoke members of the group, you can still interpolate from common attributes of those who can be in a group. Therefore we know that the tg station community in your mind doesnt want to be happy.
Um AKTLY cap&sand I you fool this is projection.
Forte' my social construct friend my partaking in these threads cannot be construed as anything but the same reasons others do, but realize that I came here originally for the actually existing concept of the /tg/station project to which I used firstly to learn git and secondly to make sure my auditory sense is palpable to a wide audience. I remember when I suffered a misconception once, but I didn't double down. I didn't claw through a muddy cliff face telling myself there was a world unseen on the other end. I ate a three course meal of my pride and got back to the beaten path. And If I must claw through a cliff face it shall be for equally unverifiable but entirely valid reasons according to that concept which is I. Thats just the problem with people these days. I consider the rest of my time spent here as idle entertainment and ascribe to it no more weight than that. If we were to do some childish number crunching I could say that I paid MSO 30 - 40 bucks in bitcoin I couldn't use, and donated 10 bucks to charity for what i got out of it, and thats alright. I dont need to be justified by /tg/station, or in the eyes of a profile pic. I need not be happy for I know myself, more than any gauge of healthy mentality could, and thus I am justified as long as I conform to that concept of myself. did you see that? Whether its the project or this textbox its entertainment in the end, so stop being so seariuz. You think I really care about the hut? or.. whatever else idk what ive put my chips on. I was here because I was skimming the tools I - you know what im done with writing for today so uh, candlejack, I'll see you gu

[oranges]

jesus christ

[Kendrickorium]

A coder headmin also removed him, so

FAIRLY sure it was an ADMIN who sometimes coded on the side that removed him

it took three full on coder headmins to finally get him reinstated

keep on honkin that horn though

[c4g]

...whats the fucking point of being here. waiting to see who's next to go? hanging out with everyone celebrating them being gone?...

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What the hell did you think you've been doing here? What has anyone been doing in these peanut threads outside of celebrating that they can conform to some ultimately meaningless rules better than the banned user? Anyone who says that peanuts are a needed organ of some abstract community concept is lying through their ass. The peanut exists because you have no better way to entertain yourself than to enter a thread titled "ESCAL8TON NUT L E L" and to spend 3 minutes composing some reply to the effect of "This dumbass has no self control in the gaze of the admin!" or "AD(OLF)MIN L E L". The door is always open, but you don't leave? Mayhaps I shall extrapolate these conditions to accuse you of lacking the ability to live a life of just, or perchance I mayhaps wear the face of a loved one and tell you that you need to sort yourself out GOODBYE GOODBYE. Oh but I cant leave what about my metafriends awww my metalfriends?!? AKTLY thats speak for aktually also known as haha i am taking the piss out of you. AKTLY if you cant justify wasting 6-8 hours a week on flame wars by any other name for a pfp then your a sociopath or a child okay. Y U SO MAD LEL.
LEL. I remember when I used to have conversations with people who didn't lie to themselves constantly in the pursuit of happiness. Are you happy?
The TG station social construct or "Community" not to be confused with the world outside your head in which no such thing exists, is... well, its a grouping of people- well, nobody belongs to it themselves so its not actually a group. Even if you can't find bespoke members of the group, you can still interpolate from common attributes of those who can be in a group. Therefore we know that the tg station community in your mind doesnt want to be happy.
Um AKTLY cap&sand I you fool this is projection.
Forte' my social construct friend my partaking in these threads cannot be construed as anything but the same reasons others do, but realize that I came here originally for the actually existing concept of the /tg/station project to which I used firstly to learn git and secondly to make sure my auditory sense is palpable to a wide audience. I remember when I suffered a misconception once, but I didn't double down. I didn't claw through a muddy cliff face telling myself there was a world unseen on the other end. I ate a three course meal of my pride and got back to the beaten path. And If I must claw through a cliff face it shall be for equally unverifiable but entirely valid reasons according to that concept which is I. Thats just the problem with people these days. I consider the rest of my time spent here as idle entertainment and ascribe to it no more weight than that. If we were to do some childish number crunching I could say that I paid MSO 30 - 40 bucks in bitcoin I couldn't use, and donated 10 bucks to charity for what i got out of it, and thats alright. I dont need to be justified by /tg/station, or in the eyes of a profile pic. I need not be happy for I know myself, more than any gauge of healthy mentality could, and thus I am justified as long as I conform to that concept of myself. did you see that? Whether its the project or this textbox its entertainment in the end, so stop being so seariuz. You think I really care about the hut? or.. whatever else idk what ive put my chips on. I was here because I was skimming the tools I - you know what im done with writing for today so uh, candlejack, I'll see you gu

not reading all that

[oranges]

at some point we will see what the deciding factors were and we won't have to chew the cud with filled in blanks about what happened

actually we wont, because they're blacklisted, which means they cannot appeal.

[Armhulen]

our version of the panama papers is gonna be called the peppermint papers and thats kind of cool i guess

[Kendrickorium]

...whats the fucking point of being here. waiting to see who's next to go? hanging out with everyone celebrating them being gone?...

What the hell did you think you've been doing here? What has anyone been doing in these peanut threads outside of celebrating that they can conform to some ultimately meaningless rules better than the banned user? Anyone who says that peanuts are a needed organ of some abstract community concept is lying through their ass. The peanut exists because you have no better way to entertain yourself than to enter a thread titled "ESCAL8TON NUT L E L" and to spend 3 minutes composing some reply to the effect of "This dumbass has no self control in the gaze of the admin!" or "AD(OLF)MIN L E L". The door is always open, but you don't leave? Mayhaps I shall extrapolate these conditions to accuse you of lacking the ability to live a life of just, or perchance I mayhaps wear the face of a loved one and tell you that you need to sort yourself out GOODBYE GOODBYE. Oh but I cant leave what about my metafriends awww my metalfriends?!? AKTLY thats speak for aktually also known as haha i am taking the piss out of you. AKTLY if you cant justify wasting 6-8 hours a week on flame wars by any other name for a pfp then your a sociopath or a child okay. Y U SO MAD LEL.
LEL. I remember when I used to have conversations with people who didn't lie to themselves constantly in the pursuit of happiness. Are you happy?
The TG station social construct or "Community" not to be confused with the world outside your head in which no such thing exists, is... well, its a grouping of people- well, nobody belongs to it themselves so its not actually a group. Even if you can't find bespoke members of the group, you can still interpolate from common attributes of those who can be in a group. Therefore we know that the tg station community in your mind doesnt want to be happy.
Um AKTLY cap&sand I you fool this is projection.
Forte' my social construct friend my partaking in these threads cannot be construed as anything but the same reasons others do, but realize that I came here originally for the actually existing concept of the /tg/station project to which I used firstly to learn git and secondly to make sure my auditory sense is palpable to a wide audience. I remember when I suffered a misconception once, but I didn't double down. I didn't claw through a muddy cliff face telling myself there was a world unseen on the other end. I ate a three course meal of my pride and got back to the beaten path. And If I must claw through a cliff face it shall be for equally unverifiable but entirely valid reasons according to that concept which is I. Thats just the problem with people these days. I consider the rest of my time spent here as idle entertainment and ascribe to it no more weight than that. If we were to do some childish number crunching I could say that I paid MSO 30 - 40 bucks in bitcoin I couldn't use, and donated 10 bucks to charity for what i got out of it, and thats alright. I dont need to be justified by /tg/station, or in the eyes of a profile pic. I need not be happy for I know myself, more than any gauge of healthy mentality could, and thus I am justified as long as I conform to that concept of myself. did you see that? Whether its the project or this textbox its entertainment in the end, so stop being so seariuz. You think I really care about the hut? or.. whatever else idk what ive put my chips on. I was here because I was skimming the tools I - you know what im done with writing for today so uh, candlejack, I'll see you gu

holy shit.. an original work of art

[Armhulen]

...whats the fucking point of being here. waiting to see who's next to go? hanging out with everyone celebrating them being gone?...

What the hell did you think you've been doing here? What has anyone been doing in these peanut threads outside of celebrating that they can conform to some ultimately meaningless rules better than the banned user? Anyone who says that peanuts are a needed organ of some abstract community concept is lying through their ass. The peanut exists because you have no better way to entertain yourself than to enter a thread titled "ESCAL8TON NUT L E L" and to spend 3 minutes composing some reply to the effect of "This dumbass has no self control in the gaze of the admin!" or "AD(OLF)MIN L E L". The door is always open, but you don't leave? Mayhaps I shall extrapolate these conditions to accuse you of lacking the ability to live a life of just, or perchance I mayhaps wear the face of a loved one and tell you that you need to sort yourself out GOODBYE GOODBYE. Oh but I cant leave what about my metafriends awww my metalfriends?!? AKTLY thats speak for aktually also known as haha i am taking the piss out of you. AKTLY if you cant justify wasting 6-8 hours a week on flame wars by any other name for a pfp then your a sociopath or a child okay. Y U SO MAD LEL.
LEL. I remember when I used to have conversations with people who didn't lie to themselves constantly in the pursuit of happiness. Are you happy?
The TG station social construct or "Community" not to be confused with the world outside your head in which no such thing exists, is... well, its a grouping of people- well, nobody belongs to it themselves so its not actually a group. Even if you can't find bespoke members of the group, you can still interpolate from common attributes of those who can be in a group. Therefore we know that the tg station community in your mind doesnt want to be happy.
Um AKTLY cap&sand I you fool this is projection.
Forte' my social construct friend my partaking in these threads cannot be construed as anything but the same reasons others do, but realize that I came here originally for the actually existing concept of the /tg/station project to which I used firstly to learn git and secondly to make sure my auditory sense is palpable to a wide audience. I remember when I suffered a misconception once, but I didn't double down. I didn't claw through a muddy cliff face telling myself there was a world unseen on the other end. I ate a three course meal of my pride and got back to the beaten path. And If I must claw through a cliff face it shall be for equally unverifiable but entirely valid reasons according to that concept which is I. Thats just the problem with people these days. I consider the rest of my time spent here as idle entertainment and ascribe to it no more weight than that. If we were to do some childish number crunching I could say that I paid MSO 30 - 40 bucks in bitcoin I couldn't use, and donated 10 bucks to charity for what i got out of it, and thats alright. I dont need to be justified by /tg/station, or in the eyes of a profile pic. I need not be happy for I know myself, more than any gauge of healthy mentality could, and thus I am justified as long as I conform to that concept of myself. did you see that? Whether its the project or this textbox its entertainment in the end, so stop being so seariuz. You think I really care about the hut? or.. whatever else idk what ive put my chips on. I was here because I was skimming the tools I - you know what im done with writing for today so uh, candlejack, I'll see you gu

holy shit.. an original work of art

it looks like what comes out when you repeatedly tap the word suggestions on imessage

[oranges]

just dont engage with it

[oranges]

our version of the panama papers is gonna be called the peppermint papers and thats kind of cool i guess

That is the most likely way anyone will ever see any evidence or not.

[BonChoi]

https://youtu.be/W8MbyfCrrWQ?si=kX1gzU7l6Ay9oMKJ&t=5

[Armhulen]

I don't even know who I am yet...

Phew... I didn't think this thread would go so introspective. I need some time

[NoxVS]

at some point we will see what the deciding factors were and we won't have to chew the cud with filled in blanks about what happened

actually we wont, because they're blacklisted, which means they cannot appeal.

They could always send the evidence to their pals to share or something.

[Nabski]

I swear every time I open this thread you've added an additional thing to your profile picture. It was just one beard, then a hat, then another hat.

PRESUBMIT EDIT: the time I took to type this two more posts were made.

[junkgle]

i hope im next at this point. i havent even done anything but i hope they find something to get me banned. make something up for all i care. if they're gonna go down the line banning deadminning and blacklisting all my friends then whats the fucking point of being here. waiting to see who's next to go? hanging out with everyone celebrating them being gone? i fucking hate this

[Timonk]

never again will there be a sinful medicated or unmedicated post
never again will the catgirl named pepper mint step foot on tg grounds

god wept

[iwishforducks]

i can't say i've been a huge fan of the slash-and-burn vibes i've been getting these past few months and more.

[kinnebian]

i can't say i've been a huge fan of the slash-and-burn vibes i've been getting these past few months and more.

im a fan of cutting people who do targeted bullying and harassment but im retired and have a bigger trust of the current admin team for it

[iwishforducks]

i can't say i've been a huge fan of the slash-and-burn vibes i've been getting these past few months and more.

im a fan of cutting people who do targeted bullying and harassment but im retired and have a bigger trust of the current admin team for it

idk i kind of lost a lot of trust ever since the cat metacomm bans. those just seemed a little out of proportion. i have a hard time taking "targeted bullying and harassment" at its word; i'd rather make my own opinion on it and see for myself. but alas i have yet to be able to make that opinion

[GPeckman]

They could always send the evidence to their pals to share or something.

Well, for this kind of thing there might not be evidence of their innocence. Allow me to give an example: Bob is accusing Mary of sending a discord message saying "I hate cats." Mary says that she never sent a message like that. How exactly can Mary prove that she never sent that message? As far as I can tell, the only way would be to somehow give pull full access to her discord history, so people can comb through it and confirm that the message isn't there. Obviously that isn't feasible. Bob, meanwhile, can easily provide evidence just by showing the one message that says "I hate cats."

[kinnebian]

They could always send the evidence to their pals to share or something.

Well, for this kind of thing there might not be evidence of their innocence. Allow me to give an example: Bob is accusing Mary of sending a discord message saying "I hate cats." Mary says that she never sent a message like that. How exactly can Mary prove that she never sent that message? As far as I can tell, the only way would be to somehow give pull full access to her discord history, so people can comb through it and confirm that the message isn't there. Obviously that isn't feasible. Bob, meanwhile, can easily provide evidence just by showing the one message that says "I hate cats."

this is a retarded analogy please come back with a better one

[GPeckman]

this is a retarded analogy please come back with a better one

Alright then, fuck analogies. What if Sinful says "I never sent a message saying I wanted to cause admin burnout." How, exactly, could he prove it to you? What actions taken would be sufficient? If you can't think of any actions, or the actions are infeasible like "sending his entire discord history," then it means that Sinful can't prove his own innocence.

[Atlanta-Ned]

this is a retarded analogy please come back with a better one

Alright then, fuck analogies. What if Sinful says "I never sent a message saying I wanted to cause admin burnout." How, exactly, could he prove it to you? What actions taken would be sufficient? If you can't think of any actions, or the actions are infeasible like "sending his entire discord history," then it means that Sinful can't prove his own innocence.

this isn't a fuckin court; its an extremely open-ended roleplaying game. if someone sucks we have every right to boot them out and tell them to fuck off forever. that they lasted as long as they did is a mercy they did nothing to earn.

[kinnebian]

this is a retarded analogy please come back with a better one

Alright then, fuck analogies. What if Sinful says "I never sent a message saying I wanted to cause admin burnout." How, exactly, could he prove it to you? What actions taken would be sufficient? If you can't think of any actions, or the actions are infeasible like "sending his entire discord history," then it means that Sinful can't prove his own innocence.

its not about proving your own innocence its about proving their guilt
have you ever heard the saying innocent until proven guilty

i take the word of the admins and mso as proof enough for me

[datorangebottle]

If this actually happened as described, it was probably deserved.
I'm very surprised it came to this point, but hey.

actually we wont, because they're blacklisted, which means they cannot appeal.

They can try. Jackrip was also blacklisted, right? I remember him making multiple attempts at appeals.


Anyway, at what point do we start admitting that non-tg discords explicitly for talking about tg with people from tg are inherently metacords worth dissolving?
There shouldn't be a manuel discord, a sybil discord, etc. tg discord exists. Some kind people patiently explained to me the backstory for the manuel one; I still think it shouldn't exist.

p.s. @kendrick pls do stop before we lose yet another friend to "drama stirring". You are genuinely one of the most entertaining people here.

[GPeckman]

its not about proving your own innocence its about proving their guilt
have you ever heard the saying innocent until proven guilty

I'm aware of that. I originally responded to NoxVS, who suggested that Sinful try to prove his own innocence. I was pointing out that this isn't really possible to do. If you're upset about people suggesting that Sinful should prove his own innocence, then go yell at NoxVS!

i take the word of the admins and mso as proof enough for me

A headmin said that "more information is coming," so I'll withhold judgement until then.

this isn't a fuckin court; its an extremely open-ended roleplaying game. if someone sucks we have every right to boot them out and tell them to fuck off forever. that they lasted as long as they did is a mercy they did nothing to earn.

This isn't really about Sinfulbliss and Pepper sucking in general. This is about a very specific accusation; that Sinful and Pepper conspired over discord to make admins burn out.

[Jacquerel]

Anyway, at what point do we start admitting that non-tg discords explicitly for talking about tg with people from tg are inherently metacords worth dissolving?
There shouldn't be a manuel discord, a sybil discord, etc. tg discord exists. Some kind people patiently explained to me the backstory for the manuel one; I still think it shouldn't exist.

As much as people sometimes use them to rile each other up over their own bitter feelings and burnout until it spills over into getting themselves banned... it's completely normal to want to hang out with people you have met and become your friends and stay in contact with them outside the medium of a weird roleplaying game.
There is nothing that any admin team can or should do about this, apart from clean up the messes when they go rotten.

Otherwise, venting about video games to your pals is totally normal, even healthy in most cases. Just uh, not all cases.

[Armhulen]

Anyway, at what point do we start admitting that non-tg discords explicitly for talking about tg with people from tg are inherently metacords worth dissolving?

Trying to police the creation of discords that are not official and talk about /tg/station13 will have the same effectiveness on actually stopping metacords as the american prohibition era had on alcohol

[TheLoLSwat]

i hope im next at this point. i havent even done anything but i hope they find something to get me banned. make something up for all i care. if they're gonna go down the line banning deadminning and blacklisting all my friends then whats the fucking point of being here. waiting to see who's next to go? hanging out with everyone celebrating them being gone? i fucking hate this

yup pretty sad

MSO is known for making quick decision banning so i don't even blame him

after getting some details from sinful i can say that (if these details are true) that the current headmin team is absolutely fucking bonkers.
like spending hours of their time digging up enough information to ban people because they are literal fucking drama vampires bonkers. (this includes the recent admin deadminning and sun catton permaing)

literally none of this is as bad as vekter or any purple name says it is.

after getting those same details, I can say that a blacklist is way too harsh (again, if they are true), a permaban would fit better but it is what it is

[dragomagol]

Anyway, at what point do we start admitting that non-tg discords explicitly for talking about tg with people from tg are inherently metacords worth dissolving?

Trying to police the creation of discords that are not official and talk about /tg/station13 will have the same effectiveness on actually stopping metacords as the american prohibition era had on alcohol

Prohibition agent Izzy Einstein bragged that he could find liquor in any city in under 30 minutes. In Chicago it took him 21 minutes. In Atlanta 17 minutes, and Pittsburg just 11 minutes. But New Orleans set the record of 35 seconds. Einstein asked his taxi driver where to get a drink, and the driver handed him one.

[Armhulen]

Prohibition agent Sam Salamander bragged that he could find a metacord in any server in under 30 minutes. In Bagil it took him 21 minutes. In Sybil 17 minutes, and Manuel just 11 minutes. But Terry set the record of 35 seconds. Sam asked an assistant on the arrivals shuttle where to get a discord invite, and the assistant linked him one.