This must be the work of an enemy stand!
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This must be the work of an enemy stand!
I'm a massive weeb and think punching ghosts would be cool to have in the game. I plan on coding this/am looking for ideas and feedback on it, dunno if this is the right forum or what. Obviously they won't be named stands in the final version.
So far the plan is basically
-Stand's are probably going to be simple animals, as they won't need to breathe/be hungry etc.
-Stands will be stored inside the users location, and summoned onto the users turf with the use of a verb/recalled with the use of a verb (probably on a cooldown)
-The stand will have a max range they can be from the user. If they're too far away, they get forcibly warped back to the users turf
-Stands/users will get a private telepathy channel, like :z or something
-Stands will have randomized sprites so you can't tell what their power is at a glance
-Stands will have infinite health/be unstunnable by normal means, but doing damage to the stand will do some portion of that damage to the user, and when the user dies the stand dies (maybe the user should have slightly increased max health so the fights last longer or something if they're going to be taking damage from two sources)
-Null rod would probably desummon them because why not
Stands will start out fairly simple at first (plain attacks, fast with weaker plain attacks, no attacks but completely invulnerable and unpushable, ranged attacks, a stand that deals bonus damage to other stands but nothing to people, and a scout stand that can move as far away as it wants off the top of my head), but more interesting powers could be added once the system is in place. Right now the primary difference would be how much damage the stand deals and how much damage the user takes.
What I need help deciding on:
-Their visibility. I think ideally, and most interestingly they'd only be visible to other stands/users, but it'd be fucking miserable for the sec officer who tried to break up a fight only to be killed by something invisible. I think I'll settle for silicons being unable to see them
-What sort of role they should play in the game. Plain antagonists? A wizard spell? Antags with strict rules that they're only after each other or specific targets? Ideally I think they'd be after one another, but that'd require it's own game mode at a fairly high population (it'd take 8 players just to make 4 stand users, after all)
-How to theme them. I'd rather avoid tarot cards. Maybe zodiac signs or something?
-Other fun (but sane and feasible) ideas for stand powers
-If they should be vulnerable to normal weapons (I can already imagine it'd get really dumb if a stand dragged its user around in a locker while attacking people invulnerable, even if I think stand vs stand would be more interesting)
Also I can't sprite for shit so I'd need help with that as well if anyone is at all interested.
Anyway, that's the basic idea, just looking for any extra input before I start. I know coding the stands themselves won't be hard but deciding how to implement them in a meaningful way will be tricky. If you think I should just drop the whole thing that's cool as well.
Hopefully a maintainer can tell me if they'd let me merge this as well, because I know references/inspiration is touchy. Hope I didn't forget anything this was mostly just stream of consciousness from ideas I've had bouncing around for a few days.
tl;dr
Can I add these? Any suggestions? I need sprites please help thanks
So far the plan is basically
-Stand's are probably going to be simple animals, as they won't need to breathe/be hungry etc.
-Stands will be stored inside the users location, and summoned onto the users turf with the use of a verb/recalled with the use of a verb (probably on a cooldown)
-The stand will have a max range they can be from the user. If they're too far away, they get forcibly warped back to the users turf
-Stands/users will get a private telepathy channel, like :z or something
-Stands will have randomized sprites so you can't tell what their power is at a glance
-Stands will have infinite health/be unstunnable by normal means, but doing damage to the stand will do some portion of that damage to the user, and when the user dies the stand dies (maybe the user should have slightly increased max health so the fights last longer or something if they're going to be taking damage from two sources)
-Null rod would probably desummon them because why not
Stands will start out fairly simple at first (plain attacks, fast with weaker plain attacks, no attacks but completely invulnerable and unpushable, ranged attacks, a stand that deals bonus damage to other stands but nothing to people, and a scout stand that can move as far away as it wants off the top of my head), but more interesting powers could be added once the system is in place. Right now the primary difference would be how much damage the stand deals and how much damage the user takes.
What I need help deciding on:
-Their visibility. I think ideally, and most interestingly they'd only be visible to other stands/users, but it'd be fucking miserable for the sec officer who tried to break up a fight only to be killed by something invisible. I think I'll settle for silicons being unable to see them
-What sort of role they should play in the game. Plain antagonists? A wizard spell? Antags with strict rules that they're only after each other or specific targets? Ideally I think they'd be after one another, but that'd require it's own game mode at a fairly high population (it'd take 8 players just to make 4 stand users, after all)
-How to theme them. I'd rather avoid tarot cards. Maybe zodiac signs or something?
-Other fun (but sane and feasible) ideas for stand powers
-If they should be vulnerable to normal weapons (I can already imagine it'd get really dumb if a stand dragged its user around in a locker while attacking people invulnerable, even if I think stand vs stand would be more interesting)
Also I can't sprite for shit so I'd need help with that as well if anyone is at all interested.
Anyway, that's the basic idea, just looking for any extra input before I start. I know coding the stands themselves won't be hard but deciding how to implement them in a meaningful way will be tricky. If you think I should just drop the whole thing that's cool as well.
Hopefully a maintainer can tell me if they'd let me merge this as well, because I know references/inspiration is touchy. Hope I didn't forget anything this was mostly just stream of consciousness from ideas I've had bouncing around for a few days.
tl;dr
Can I add these? Any suggestions? I need sprites please help thanks
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Re: This must be the work of an enemy stand!
In this topic: the word 'stand' is used too many times without context/definition
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Re: This must be the work of an enemy stand!
"punch ghost"
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Re: This must be the work of an enemy stand!
http://jojo.wikia.com/wiki/StandNot-Dorsidarf wrote:In this topic: the word 'stand' is used too many times without context/definition
It's a spooky ghost that the user summons to punch the shit out of things
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Re: This must be the work of an enemy stand!
I tried explaining it to Sticky yesterday as "Buff guys punches vampires with the power of concentrated sunlight, then grows a spirit animal to punch other spirit animals while they punch eachother."
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Re: This must be the work of an enemy stand!
You're all still weebsSaegrimr wrote:I tried explaining it to Sticky yesterday as "Buff guys punches vampires with the power of concentrated sunlight, then grows a spirit animal to punch other spirit animals while they punch eachother."
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Re: This must be the work of an enemy stand!
The major component of being a weeaboo is thinking japan is the best thign ever and that america is a shithole and all they ever want to do is move to Japan to find out they are ostracized for being a white guy in a land of xenophobes. You arn't a weeaboo just because you like anime.Stickymayhem wrote:You're all still weebsSaegrimr wrote:I tried explaining it to Sticky yesterday as "Buff guys punches vampires with the power of concentrated sunlight, then grows a spirit animal to punch other spirit animals while they punch eachother."
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Re: This must be the work of an enemy stand!
Allow me to get my meme on.
"44. Even one positive comment about Japanese things can make you a weeaboo "
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Re: This must be the work of an enemy stand!
might be a reference oh no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
but really, you might want to rename a few things but keep descriptions as subtle references. we don't want another metroid situation.
but really, you might want to rename a few things but keep descriptions as subtle references. we don't want another metroid situation.
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Re: This must be the work of an enemy stand!
Yes you are.Bombadil wrote:The major component of being a weeaboo is thinking japan is the best thign ever and that america is a shithole and all they ever want to do is move to Japan to find out they are ostracized for being a white guy in a land of xenophobes. You arn't a weeaboo just because you like anime.Stickymayhem wrote:You're all still weebsSaegrimr wrote:I tried explaining it to Sticky yesterday as "Buff guys punches vampires with the power of concentrated sunlight, then grows a spirit animal to punch other spirit animals while they punch eachother."
Boris wrote:Sticky is a jackass who has worms where his brain should be, but he also gets exactly what SS13 should be
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Re: This must be the work of an enemy stand!
Outside of being a reference this sounds kind of terrible, and as a reference it still sounds pretty terrible. Why would we want this
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Re: This must be the work of an enemy stand!
So basically soul stone shards.
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Re: This must be the work of an enemy stand!
pffffhahahaha hahaha do it
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Re: This must be the work of an enemy stand!
Kor, I love you.
Please make this a thing.
(Sidenote it would also be pretty cool to see ripple in the game, maybe as some sort of new genetics thing that allows fists to do a fair amount of burn damage with each punch.)
Please make this a thing.
(Sidenote it would also be pretty cool to see ripple in the game, maybe as some sort of new genetics thing that allows fists to do a fair amount of burn damage with each punch.)
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Re: This must be the work of an enemy stand!
>For balance issues of who can see them
Make it so they are invisible when standing still but if moving/attacking they are visible to everyone except silicons.
>Inspiration
Make them be inspired by SS13 jokes instead of zodiac and tarot.
>Gamemode or what?
Make it a random event that people on the station suddenly develop these. Would be a good way for ghosts to get back in too.
Make it so they are invisible when standing still but if moving/attacking they are visible to everyone except silicons.
>Inspiration
Make them be inspired by SS13 jokes instead of zodiac and tarot.
>Gamemode or what?
Make it a random event that people on the station suddenly develop these. Would be a good way for ghosts to get back in too.
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Re: This must be the work of an enemy stand!
You are no match for my stand! THE GRIFFON!Man_Shroom wrote: Make them be inspired by SS13 jokes instead of zodiac and tarot.
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Re: This must be the work of an enemy stand!
This seems fun. Needs a spot of balancing, but fun.
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Re: This must be the work of an enemy stand!
Make them a thing that can be made from soul shards.
I want to start another cult pokemon league with punch goasts.
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Re: This must be the work of an enemy stand!
If something like this gets added, I'd say stands or whatever we end up calling them shouldn't be able to directly harm non-users. It wasn't like that in the original, but then again, even the guy with the biggest murderboner in the original at least knew to stroke it in secret rather than show it off publicly. Which isn't exactly something a lot of people here even try to do.
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Re: This must be the work of an enemy stand!
for their default names you could use a naming system that gives them a color and a word, then let the user rename them if they don't want their stand to be called banana pink
getting them could be a wizard thing, badmin thing, or an item in mining that lets you give people stands
getting them could be a wizard thing, badmin thing, or an item in mining that lets you give people stands
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Re: This must be the work of an enemy stand!
Fair nuff breaching to space and other stuff next to non users would be plenty mischief anyway. Most messing with civvies was done to show off weirder powers than ghost punches anyway.Konork wrote:If something like this gets added, I'd say stands or whatever we end up calling them shouldn't be able to directly harm non-users. It wasn't like that in the original, but then again, even the guy with the biggest murderboner in the original at least knew to stroke it in secret rather than show it off publicly. Which isn't exactly something a lot of people here even try to do.
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Re: This must be the work of an enemy stand!
If they couldnt' harm non-users I'd pretty much have to make it it's own gamemode and I don't know how enthusiastic people would be for that. Maybe later down the line if stand v stand fights are fun we can make stands only able to hurt other users and have them paired off as rivals in some mode or anotherKonork wrote:If something like this gets added, I'd say stands or whatever we end up calling them shouldn't be able to directly harm non-users. It wasn't like that in the original, but then again, even the guy with the biggest murderboner in the original at least knew to stroke it in secret rather than show it off publicly. Which isn't exactly something a lot of people here even try to do.
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Re: This must be the work of an enemy stand!
Maybe code a new item in the game called the mysterious arrow. Have it deal a small amount of brute damage, but when used, opens up a queue for ghosts to be stands, similar to a PAI request.
In fact, you could do this a lot like PAI. Have a setup box for stand names, colors, etc, and they'd be automatically assigned to you from random applicable ghosts.
I'd lose it if you also found a way to code posing into this game.
In fact, you could do this a lot like PAI. Have a setup box for stand names, colors, etc, and they'd be automatically assigned to you from random applicable ghosts.
I'd lose it if you also found a way to code posing into this game.
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