Improvised Throwing Stars (Code in progress)
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Improvised Throwing Stars (Code in progress)
For those not aware: Syndicate Agents can purchase Syndicate Throwing stars and be real ninjas. They imbed in limbs 100% of the time and never fall out. For those who AREN'T syndicate agents, however, I'm coding a ghetto version made from sheet metal. It will embed 60% of the time and have a 3% fall chance (This means it will damage you, on average, 5 times before it falls out.) Balance tweaks will be made as it is playtested.
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Re: Improvised Throwing Stars (Code in progress)
Semi related, but NICHE exploitable hilarity.
Make a piss weak nade, 30u bottles of pot and water.
Use a infared/igniter assembly.
Stick it in maint/other 1 wide corridor adn setthe laser to invisble.
Pile a bunch of rods/glass shards/whatever the fuck else right in front of it. (BEFORE arming the thing)
Laugh as some poor fuck walks around the corner and gets insta killed by 20 rods impaling his ass.
Make a piss weak nade, 30u bottles of pot and water.
Use a infared/igniter assembly.
Stick it in maint/other 1 wide corridor adn setthe laser to invisble.
Pile a bunch of rods/glass shards/whatever the fuck else right in front of it. (BEFORE arming the thing)
Laugh as some poor fuck walks around the corner and gets insta killed by 20 rods impaling his ass.
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Re: Improvised Throwing Stars (Code in progress)
too easy to make, that's like, arguably better than spears
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Re: Improvised Throwing Stars (Code in progress)
Jane West (as Captain) has thrown the grenade.lumipharon wrote:Semi related, but NICHE exploitable hilarity.
Make a piss weak nade, 30u bottles of pot and water.
Use a infared/igniter assembly.
Stick it in maint/other 1 wide corridor adn setthe laser to invisble.
Pile a bunch of rods/glass shards/whatever the fuck else right in front of it. (BEFORE arming the thing)
Laugh as some poor fuck walks around the corner and gets insta killed by 20 rods impaling his ass.
ADMIN LOG: grenade primed by an assembly, attached by Dannno/Jane West (as Captain)(?) and last touched by Dannno/Jane West (as Captain)(?) (timer and igniter) at Starboard Primary Hallway (JMP).
The solution begins to bubble.
The solution violently explodes!
*beep* *beep*
ADMIN LOG: Explosion with size (-1, 0, 2, 0) in area Starboard Primary Hallway (143,129,1)
the shard embeds itself in your left arm!
Jane West (as Captain) has been hit by the shard.
Jane West (as Captain) has been hit by the rapid part exchange device.
Jane West (as Captain) has been hit by the rapid part exchange device.
Jane West (as Captain) has been hit by the rapid part exchange device.
Jane West (as Captain) has been hit by the rapid part exchange device.
Jane West (as Captain) has been hit by the rapid part exchange device.
Jane West (as Captain) has been hit by the rapid part exchange device.
Jane West (as Captain) has been hit by the rapid part exchange device.
Jane West (as Captain) has been hit by the rapid part exchange device.
Jane West (as Captain) has been hit by the rapid part exchange device.
Jane West (as Captain) has been hit by the rapid part exchange device.
Jane West (as Captain) has been hit by the rapid part exchange device.
Jane West (as Captain) has been hit by the rapid part exchange device.
Jane West (as Captain) has been hit by the rapid part exchange device.
Jane West (as Captain) has been hit by the rapid part exchange device.
Jane West (as Captain) has been hit by the rapid part exchange device.
Jane West (as Captain) has been hit by the rapid part exchange device.
Jane West (as Captain) has been hit by the rapid part exchange device.
Jane West (as Captain) has been hit by the rapid part exchange device.
Jane West (as Captain) has been hit by the rapid part exchange device.
Jane West (as Captain) has been hit by the rapid part exchange device.
Jane West (as Captain) has been hit by the rapid part exchange device.
Jane West (as Captain) has been hit by the rapid part exchange device.
Jane West (as Captain) has been hit by the rapid part exchange device.
Jane West (as Captain) has been hit by the rapid part exchange device.
Jane West (as Captain) has been hit by the rapid part exchange device.
Jane West (as Captain) has been hit by the rapid part exchange device.
Jane West (as Captain) has been hit by the rapid part exchange device.
Jane West (as Captain) has been hit by the rapid part exchange device.
Jane West (as Captain) has been hit by the rapid part exchange device.
Jane West (as Captain) has been hit by the rapid part exchange device.
the shard embeds itself in your left arm!
Jane West (as Captain) has been hit by the shard.
Jane West (as Captain) has been hit by the shard.
the shard embeds itself in your chest!
the shard embeds itself in your left leg!
Jane West (as Captain) has been hit by the shard.
the shard embeds itself in your right arm!
Jane West (as Captain) has been hit by the shard.
Jane West (as Captain) has been hit by the shard.
the shard embeds itself in your left arm!
Jane West (as Captain) has been hit by the shard.
the shard embeds itself in your right arm!
the shard embeds itself in your chest!
Jane West (as Captain) has been hit by the shard.
Jane West (as Captain) has been hit by the shard.
the shard embeds itself in your right arm!
Jane West (as Captain) has been hit by the shard.
Jane West (as Captain) has been hit by the shard.
the shard embeds itself in your head!
the shard embeds itself in your head!
Jane West (as Captain) has been hit by the shard.
Jane West (as Captain) has been hit by the shard.
Jane West (as Captain) has been hit by the shard.
the shard embeds itself in your left leg!
the shard embeds itself in your right arm!
Jane West (as Captain) has been hit by the shard.
Jane West (as Captain) has been hit by the shard.
Jane West (as Captain) has been hit by the shard.
the shard embeds itself in your head!
Jane West (as Captain) has been hit by the shard.
the shard embeds itself in your left arm!
the shard embeds itself in your chest!
the shard embeds itself in your chest!
the shard embeds itself in your head!
Jane West (as Captain) has been hit by the shard.
Jane West (as Captain) has been hit by the shard.
Jane West (as Captain) has been hit by the shard.
the shard embeds itself in your right leg!
Jane West (as Captain) has been hit by the shard.
Jane West (as Captain) has been hit by the shard.
Jane West (as Captain) has been hit by the shard.
Jane West (as Captain) has been hit by the shard.
Jane West (as Captain) has been hit by the shard.
Jane West (as Captain) has been hit by the shard.
the shard embeds itself in your chest!
the shard embeds itself in your left arm!
the shard embeds itself in your right arm!
Jane West (as Captain) has been hit by the shard.
Jane West (as Captain) has been hit by the shard.
the shard embeds itself in your right arm!
Jane West (as Captain) has been hit by the shard.
Jane West (as Captain) has been hit by the shard.
Jane West (as Captain) has been hit by the shard.
Jane West (as Captain) has been hit by the shard.
the shard embeds itself in your chest!
Jane West (as Captain) has been hit by the shard.
the shard embeds itself in your right arm!
Jane West (as Captain) has been hit by the shard.
Jane West (as Captain) has been hit by the shard.
Jane West (as Captain) has been hit by the shard.
Jane West (as Captain) has been hit by the metal rod.
Jane West (as Captain) has been hit by the metal rod.
the metal rod embeds itself in your right leg!
Jane West (as Captain) has been hit by the metal rod.
Jane West (as Captain) has been hit by the metal rod.
the metal rod embeds itself in your left arm!
the metal rod embeds itself in your head!
Jane West (as Captain) has been hit by the metal rod.
Jane West (as Captain) has been hit by the metal rod.
the metal rod embeds itself in your right arm!
the metal rod embeds itself in your left arm!
Jane West (as Captain) has been hit by the metal rod.
Jane West (as Captain) has been hit by the metal rod.
the metal rod embeds itself in your left leg!
the metal rod embeds itself in your chest!
the metal rod embeds itself in your chest!
the metal rod embeds itself in your head!
the metal rod embeds itself in your head!
Jane West (as Captain) has been hit by the metal rod.
the metal rod embeds itself in your head!
Jane West (as Captain) has been hit by the metal rod.
Jane West (as Captain) has been hit by the metal rod.
Jane West (as Captain) has been hit by the metal rod.
the metal rod embeds itself in your head!
the metal rod embeds itself in your left arm!
the metal rod embeds itself in your left arm!
Jane West (as Captain) has been hit by the metal rod.
Jane West (as Captain) has been hit by the metal rod.
the metal rod embeds itself in your head!
the metal rod embeds itself in your right arm!
Jane West (as Captain) seizes up and falls limp, her eyes dead and lifeless...
the shard embedded in your chest hurts!
the shard falls out of your chest!
the shard embedded in your chest hurts!
the metal rod embedded in your chest hurts!
the shard falls out of your head!
the metal rod embedded in your head hurts!
the metal rod embedded in your left arm hurts!
the shard embedded in your right arm hurts!
the metal rod falls out of your right arm!
the metal rod embedded in your left leg hurts!
Poly looks in the monitor decryption key's direction and takes flight.
Something is there but you can't see it.
*---------*
This is Jane West (as Captain)!
She is wearing a maroon jumpsuit.
She has a satchel on her back.
She has PDA-Jane West (Assistant) about her waist.
She is wearing some black shoes on her feet.
She has a radio headset on her ears.
She is wearing a captain's spare ID.
She is limp and unresponsive; there are no signs of life...
She has severe bruising!
She has a shard embedded in her chest!
She has a shard embedded in her chest!
She has a shard embedded in her chest!
She has a shard embedded in her chest!
She has a shard embedded in her chest!
She has some metal rod embedded in her chest!
She has some metal rod embedded in her chest!
She has a shard embedded in her head!
She has a shard embedded in her head!
She has a shard embedded in her head!
She has some metal rod embedded in her head!
She has some metal rod embedded in her head!
She has some metal rod embedded in her head!
She has some metal rod embedded in her head!
She has some metal rod embedded in her head!
She has some metal rod embedded in her head!
She has a shard embedded in her left arm!
She has a shard embedded in her left arm!
She has a shard embedded in her left arm!
She has a shard embedded in her left arm!
She has a shard embedded in her left arm!
She has some metal rod embedded in her left arm!
She has some metal rod embedded in her left arm!
She has some metal rod embedded in her left arm!
She has some metal rod embedded in her left arm!
She has a shard embedded in her right arm!
She has a shard embedded in her right arm!
She has a shard embedded in her right arm!
She has a shard embedded in her right arm!
She has a shard embedded in her right arm!
She has a shard embedded in her right arm!
She has a shard embedded in her right arm!
She has some metal rod embedded in her right arm!
She has a shard embedded in her right leg!
She has some metal rod embedded in her right leg!
She has a shard embedded in her left leg!
She has a shard embedded in her left leg!
She has some metal rod embedded in her left leg!
She is bleeding!
*---------*
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Re: Improvised Throwing Stars (Code in progress)
What if it was made from plasteel?PKPenguin321 wrote:too easy to make, that's like, arguably better than spears
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Re: Improvised Throwing Stars (Code in progress)
They already exist, dude. They're called floor tiles.
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Re: Improvised Throwing Stars (Code in progress)
Apply wirecutters to floortiles. Make jagged edges. The gray tide continues to adapt and grow stronger.Poorman wrote:They already exist, dude. They're called floor tiles.
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Re: Improvised Throwing Stars (Code in progress)
Floortiles don't embed though.Poorman wrote:They already exist, dude. They're called floor tiles.
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Re: Improvised Throwing Stars (Code in progress)
Then fucking make them. If the idea is that they're sharp, they should be sharp.Drynwyn wrote:Floortiles don't embed though.Poorman wrote:They already exist, dude. They're called floor tiles.
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Re: Improvised Throwing Stars (Code in progress)
Floor tile ninja stars are legit as fuck. I agree with the above, just have them get processed with a wire cutter.
The only finicky bit is that you grab and throw the whole stack at once, as I recall, so you need to have them in one hand and take a tile out every throw with the other.
The only finicky bit is that you grab and throw the whole stack at once, as I recall, so you need to have them in one hand and take a tile out every throw with the other.
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Re: Improvised Throwing Stars (Code in progress)
Good. There's a disappointing shortage of improvised weapons, particularly ranged ones.
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Re: Improvised Throwing Stars (Code in progress)
Does no one remember WHY floor tiles were nerfed? You could out robust even heavily armed peolpe with a stack of tile - even wizards would get rekt.
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Re: Improvised Throwing Stars (Code in progress)
Yeah. As fun as it would be I don't see a way to balance it. Making them non stackable would be a start but embedding is really rough even a few would be a severe injury.
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Re: Improvised Throwing Stars (Code in progress)
On bay versions people play with floortiles breaking bones and causing internal bleedings.
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Re: Improvised Throwing Stars (Code in progress)
How about they behave like glass shards in that they hurt your hand?
Makes sense since you just cut it without any kind of refinement out of sheet metal
Makes sense since you just cut it without any kind of refinement out of sheet metal
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Re: Improvised Throwing Stars (Code in progress)
sticky are you dumb
do you think that every bit of a ninja star, even the flat part, is sharp or something. are you that dumb.
do you think that every bit of a ninja star, even the flat part, is sharp or something. are you that dumb.
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Re: Improvised Throwing Stars (Code in progress)
For reference, I have run some !!numbers!! for throwing star stats, after making some small adjustments. How they are made is presently going to be either: Using wirecutters on floortiles, sheet-metal recipe, or plasteel recipe.
Now- stats. The improvised shuriken have an embedded pain multiplier of 3, throwforce 3,fallout chance 3, w_class 2, and a 60% embed chance. This means that:
-On average, a thrown shuriken will cause 19.2 points of damage in isolation (Accounts for limited chance of embedding and assumes the following: Target moves around until shuriken drops out, target does not perform an Unsafe Removal of the shuriken.)
-On average, a shuriken that successfully embeds will deal 30 points of damage over an extended period of time.
-On embedding, they deal 8 points of damage.
-With each step they have a 15% chance to deal 4 damage and a 5% chance to fall out. This means they will, on average, deal damage 3 times for a total of 12 damage.
-On falling out, they deal 10 damage. On "Unsafe Removal", they deal 16 damage.
-If they hit but don't embed, they deal 3 damage.
In other words: They are on average more dangerous than a floortile in terms of sheer damage, but have the following drawbacks.
-Don't stack.
-Damage occurs over time rather than up-front.
-Less reliable damage than floortiles (although they also have the potential for more damage).
-Slightly harder to get.
Now- stats. The improvised shuriken have an embedded pain multiplier of 3, throwforce 3,fallout chance 3, w_class 2, and a 60% embed chance. This means that:
-On average, a thrown shuriken will cause 19.2 points of damage in isolation (Accounts for limited chance of embedding and assumes the following: Target moves around until shuriken drops out, target does not perform an Unsafe Removal of the shuriken.)
-On average, a shuriken that successfully embeds will deal 30 points of damage over an extended period of time.
-On embedding, they deal 8 points of damage.
-With each step they have a 15% chance to deal 4 damage and a 5% chance to fall out. This means they will, on average, deal damage 3 times for a total of 12 damage.
-On falling out, they deal 10 damage. On "Unsafe Removal", they deal 16 damage.
-If they hit but don't embed, they deal 3 damage.
In other words: They are on average more dangerous than a floortile in terms of sheer damage, but have the following drawbacks.
-Don't stack.
-Damage occurs over time rather than up-front.
-Less reliable damage than floortiles (although they also have the potential for more damage).
-Slightly harder to get.
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Re: Improvised Throwing Stars (Code in progress)
Can't you make plasma floor tiles? If you can, cutting those into throwing stars and embedding them should set people on fire, but comes out on the stop+drop+roll(since it gets smaller because some of it is consumed in the blaze).
If there are uranium floor tiles or at least stars made from uranium coins, if the projectile embeds, it should irradiate them just a little until they pull it out.
Diamond throwing stars could be like some super sharp shit that has a high embed chance, but is easy to pull out. If the victim fails to pull it out it should deal about 5 brute.
Gold throwing stars from tiles or coins could always fall out if the victim is on fire.
Silver throwing stars could cause double damage from shocked doors or grilles.
Just my shitty ideas :^)
If there are uranium floor tiles or at least stars made from uranium coins, if the projectile embeds, it should irradiate them just a little until they pull it out.
Diamond throwing stars could be like some super sharp shit that has a high embed chance, but is easy to pull out. If the victim fails to pull it out it should deal about 5 brute.
Gold throwing stars from tiles or coins could always fall out if the victim is on fire.
Silver throwing stars could cause double damage from shocked doors or grilles.
Just my shitty ideas :^)
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Re: Improvised Throwing Stars (Code in progress)
Stickymayhem wrote:How about they behave like glass shards in that they hurt your hand?
Makes sense since you just cut it without any kind of refinement out of sheet metal
They are improvised, right? This means they are sharp and dangerous, but have jagged edges. I've cut pennies in half with this awesome pair of pliers and the core of the pennies is super hard and sharp as fuck. I've gotten tiny cuts from just handling them and I don't notice them until I wash my hands. It'd make sense that these stars with jagged blades that aren't machined or well-crafted would give you some razor sharp cuts and you wouldnt notice them. Any form of basic hand protection should prevent this.allura wrote:sticky are you dumb
do you think that every bit of a ninja star, even the flat part, is sharp or something. are you that dumb.
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Re: Improvised Throwing Stars (Code in progress)
What frag said.
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Re: Improvised Throwing Stars (Code in progress)
Tablecrafting.Drynwyn wrote:For reference, I have run some !!numbers!! for throwing star stats, after making some small adjustments. How they are made is presently going to be either: Using wirecutters on floortiles, sheet-metal recipe, or plasteel recipe.
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Re: Improvised Throwing Stars (Code in progress)
Kind of gives me an idea for an alternative to the IEDlumipharon wrote:Semi related, but NICHE exploitable hilarity.
Make a piss weak nade, 30u bottles of pot and water.
Use a infared/igniter assembly.
Stick it in maint/other 1 wide corridor adn setthe laser to invisble.
Pile a bunch of rods/glass shards/whatever the fuck else right in front of it. (BEFORE arming the thing)
Laugh as some poor fuck walks around the corner and gets insta killed by 20 rods impaling his ass.
- make regular IED but don't put in the cable
- put in glass shards (up to 10)
- add cable
- when detonated fires off shards in random directions at high speeds that ricochette off walls until they either travel a certain distance or get stuck in something meaty
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