Changeling ascended communication
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Changeling ascended communication
So I was thinking of a way to make changeling hivemind more worthwhile. A little teamwork now and again is useful as-is, but it's definitely not useful enough to be worth the point you spend on it.
I propose instead that we change its name to "ascended communication", where being able to hear and speak in the hivemind is JUST one of its many effects. It could also expand your ability to hear all languages (monkey chimpers, xeno chitters, any other examples), whispers at a distance, possibly speech through walls (I don't know how feasible this is), and even hearing/speaking in the xeno hivemind (those already use different keys to talk in anyway).
You might think this is suddenly too powerful, but remember that these are all very minor conveniences. It's rare that a changeling will actually speak to a xeno or a monkey, it's rare that you'll see anyone use whispers, and ones that you'll want to peak on. The best you'll probably get out of it is hearing people through walls and a hivemind chat. I still think this would be worth only 1 point to spend on, and it'd have some increased uses.
If you want to make it REALLY powerful however, you'd probably make it so you can hear all telecomms chatter at all times, including PDAs, department chat, and even private channels to the AI done with wall intercoms. Possibly even cyborg speak? That might warrant an increase in cost to 2.
I propose instead that we change its name to "ascended communication", where being able to hear and speak in the hivemind is JUST one of its many effects. It could also expand your ability to hear all languages (monkey chimpers, xeno chitters, any other examples), whispers at a distance, possibly speech through walls (I don't know how feasible this is), and even hearing/speaking in the xeno hivemind (those already use different keys to talk in anyway).
You might think this is suddenly too powerful, but remember that these are all very minor conveniences. It's rare that a changeling will actually speak to a xeno or a monkey, it's rare that you'll see anyone use whispers, and ones that you'll want to peak on. The best you'll probably get out of it is hearing people through walls and a hivemind chat. I still think this would be worth only 1 point to spend on, and it'd have some increased uses.
If you want to make it REALLY powerful however, you'd probably make it so you can hear all telecomms chatter at all times, including PDAs, department chat, and even private channels to the AI done with wall intercoms. Possibly even cyborg speak? That might warrant an increase in cost to 2.
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Re: Changeling ascended communication
Make it the "really powerful" option, make the cost one. Changelings that actually have enough information to impersonate people would be awesome.
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So you could understand and speak to monkeys, aliens, 2 hiveminds, be able to hear all comms without a headset, department chat, private radios, PDA messages, cyborg chat, whispers at a distance, and hearing through walls?
For one point?
For one point?
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Re: Changeling ascended communication
I thought hivemind communication was made free again. When was it re-nerfed to cost a point again?
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It would still be worse than Lesser Form.WJohnston wrote:So you could understand and speak to monkeys, aliens, 2 hiveminds, be able to hear all comms without a headset, department chat, private radios, PDA messages, cyborg chat, whispers at a distance, and hearing through walls?
For one point?
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Re: Changeling ascended communication
Don't give lings binary hearing for 1 point
Don't give lings binary hearing at all, ideally.
Don't give lings binary hearing at all, ideally.
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Yeah, binary hearing might be a bit much, but all normal comms channels would be good.
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Re: Changeling ascended communication
yeah i'm pretty sure it's still free and you have it by default unless there was a PR i missedGun Hog wrote:I thought hivemind communication was made free again. When was it re-nerfed to cost a point again?
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Re: Changeling ascended communication
I guess I should expand this to be a poll. I'll let you pick several options.
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Where is the option for the old free hivemind
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Re: Changeling ascended communication
Hivemind is still free. Last time i played a ling I automatically had itKor wrote:Where is the option for the old free hivemind
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Re: Changeling ascended communication
The only really interesting part would be binary speech. Which is,yet another duplicated traitor item as a changeling ability.
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Re: Changeling ascended communication
As everyone else has already stated, ling chat hasn't had a cost for quite a while.
Binary chat is potentially rather strong, as silicons are a big threat to lings, since they're non human.
The other chats though, no one would pay for them, or it would be niche as fuck, at best.
Binary chat is potentially rather strong, as silicons are a big threat to lings, since they're non human.
The other chats though, no one would pay for them, or it would be niche as fuck, at best.
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Re: Changeling ascended communication
I would personally not purchase that power, it is not that useful. Being able to hear whispers and remote speech makes sense, due to acute hearing, but it does not make sense for an organic being to hear electronic radio signals, much less understand pure binary signals. Being able to understand other Xenos is fine.
Also, since these things are called *changelings*, maybe they need more forms. If a Changeling absorbs (NOT sting, it must ABSORB) a Xeno, why not let it transform into a Xeno? (minus the egg-laying) Let changelings become any simple mob they absorb! We have some sort of organic traitor thing going now. The name "Changeling" should mean a creature that can take on any form it wants!
Also, since these things are called *changelings*, maybe they need more forms. If a Changeling absorbs (NOT sting, it must ABSORB) a Xeno, why not let it transform into a Xeno? (minus the egg-laying) Let changelings become any simple mob they absorb! We have some sort of organic traitor thing going now. The name "Changeling" should mean a creature that can take on any form it wants!
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Re: Changeling ascended communication
>absorb and replace ian, nom the HoP when he closes the shutters
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Re: Changeling ascended communication
Just imagine absorbing a Basilisk or Golly.
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>mining lings are now godsDemonFiren wrote:Just imagine absorbing a Basilisk or Golly.
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Even better if you absorb your fellow miner's pet...
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