Trialmin Review: RogueSteampunker

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Trialmin Review: RogueSteampunker

Unread postby Arianya » Sun Sep 16, 2018 10:09 am #439874

RogueSteampunker has now been in the .txt as a Trial Admin for """"roughly"""" two months.

Please use this thread as public review; it's encouraged for players to comment on how well/badly the trial admin has done and whether or not they think the trial admin should be made a full admin, if they should be removed from the .txt or if their promotion should be delayed.
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Re: Trialmin Review: RogueSteampunker

Unread postby Shezza » Sun Sep 16, 2018 12:41 pm #439894

I like them oocly, didn't have any interactions with them as an admin however.
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Re: Trialmin Review: RogueSteampunker

Unread postby Cobby » Sun Sep 16, 2018 8:35 pm #439998

Something about their github conduct (responses/comments) has crossed me a couple of times but other than that they're fine.
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Re: Trialmin Review: RogueSteampunker

Unread postby subject217 » Mon Sep 17, 2018 12:41 am #440037

If goofball can't make an admin complaint about it then an admin's Github conduct is wholly irrelevant for this trialmin review.

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Re: Trialmin Review: RogueSteampunker

Unread postby Cobby » Mon Sep 17, 2018 1:42 am #440047

"This includes statements that are outwardly hostile to specific players and/or may be a defamation of that player's character."

Being hostile to /tg/ players about /tg/ features they wish to implement on the /tg/ github that directs to our /tg/ server is totally relevant. Same as discord behavior, which I believe you've commented about in other threads.

Not sure what the goofball thing is but admin complaints are for ingame conduct so it makes sense if it got shut down for something similar. This is not that subforum so that rule does not apply.
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Re: Trialmin Review: RogueSteampunker

Unread postby subject217 » Mon Sep 17, 2018 1:51 am #440049

Could you give some examples of this?

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Re: Trialmin Review: RogueSteampunker

Unread postby Cobby » Mon Sep 17, 2018 3:45 am #440064

"He also just generally sometimes acts like an asshole, I have no other way to describe it, and if you ask him to stop doing that he'll just tell you to fuck off."

My apologies, I read the post as discord because i'm assuming this is the only way you contact with him (Mralphonzo's thread). Regardless, it's still the behavior extrapolated outside of the game you used to defend your position.
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Re: Trialmin Review: RogueSteampunker

Unread postby Cobby » Mon Sep 17, 2018 4:03 am #440066

To bring it back around though as to not derail this thread over a issue I don't think has a tangible bearing (i would hope not), the situations i've seen him in as an admin are fine.

I've had 0 issues with him and wouldn't mind him being a gamemin, but I would like him to represent the team, particularly with individuals who are trying to improve the game, in a less abrasive manner if possible.
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Re: Trialmin Review: RogueSteampunker

Unread postby RogueSteampunker » Mon Sep 17, 2018 4:29 am #440068

Cobby wrote:"He also just generally sometimes acts like an asshole, I have no other way to describe it, and if you ask him to stop doing that he'll just tell you to fuck off."

My apologies, I read the post as discord because i'm assuming this is the only way you contact with him (Mralphonzo's thread). Regardless, it's still the behavior extrapolated outside of the game you used to defend your position.


If you don't mind me asking, which pr did I even say that in? Just curious, cause I don't remember myself getting nearly that vitriolic out in the github.

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Re: Trialmin Review: RogueSteampunker

Unread postby Shezza » Mon Sep 17, 2018 8:14 am #440117

Nice person outside the game, even if sometimes we bashed heads. I can't recall having any of my tickets handled by them however, so i can't give feedback on that.

Definitely nicer than some admins.
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Re: Trialmin Review: RogueSteampunker

Unread postby somerandomguy » Mon Sep 17, 2018 1:41 pm #440134

RogueSteampunker wrote:
Cobby wrote:"He also just generally sometimes acts like an asshole, I have no other way to describe it, and if you ask him to stop doing that he'll just tell you to fuck off."

My apologies, I read the post as discord because i'm assuming this is the only way you contact with him (Mralphonzo's thread). Regardless, it's still the behavior extrapolated outside of the game you used to defend your position.


If you don't mind me asking, which pr did I even say that in? Just curious, cause I don't remember myself getting nearly that vitriolic out in the github.

They were talking about alphonzo's thread as a justification for using out of game stuff in the thread

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Re: Trialmin Review: RogueSteampunker

Unread postby subject217 » Mon Sep 17, 2018 3:28 pm #440137

Cobby wrote:"He also just generally sometimes acts like an asshole, I have no other way to describe it, and if you ask him to stop doing that he'll just tell you to fuck off."

My apologies, I read the post as discord because i'm assuming this is the only way you contact with him (Mralphonzo's thread). Regardless, it's still the behavior extrapolated outside of the game you used to defend your position.

I'm talking about examples of Rogue being a dick on Github. Unless you back up that point it's a useless distraction at best and a baseless insult at worst.

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Re: Trialmin Review: RogueSteampunker

Unread postby Cobby » Mon Sep 17, 2018 6:20 pm #440150

subject217 wrote:I'm talking about examples of Rogue being a dick on Github. Unless you back up that point it's a useless distraction at best and a baseless insult at worst.

I unfortunately didn't keep track of what PR(s) it was in and I can't track comments when searching users, nor do I have the desire to search through every PR he MIGHT have posted in for the sake of winning an internet argument about a minute gripe I had with the individual that I fully expect him to improve on looking forward.

Trying to argue about my comment that I already, explicitly stated should not have any tangible bearing on the review then having the audacity to claim i'm the one "distracting" from the point of this thread is really odd.

RogueSteampunker wrote:If you don't mind me asking, which pr did I even say that in? Just curious, cause I don't remember myself getting nearly that vitriolic out in the github.

That kind of ironic vitriol is reserved for admins after their review it seems, but it was a quote regarding behavior outside of the game that I was using to point out subject has also brought up external behavior in review threads. I do not recall what PR it was in or even what was said, I was just crossed by the comment(s) upon reading them. Had I thought it was an issue that needed to affect the trialmin review it would have already occurred since I have some say in those processes.
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Re: Trialmin Review: RogueSteampunker

Unread postby subject217 » Mon Sep 17, 2018 10:00 pm #440169

Cobby wrote:That kind of ironic vitriol is reserved for admins after their review it seems, but it was a quote regarding behavior outside of the game that I was using to point out subject has also brought up external behavior in review threads.

And my point was that an admin being "rude" to people on GitHub(a claim that you refuse to reinforce) has no bearing on their performance as an admin. While it's true Admin Complaints are for in-game issues only, even if they weren't Goofball's complaint would still have been thrown out, because complaining about an admin being rude to you on GitHub is stupid.

None of this has literally anything to do with Rogue. You could have dropped it when you decided you were too lazy to reinforce it and yet you chose instead to make passive aggressive sniping remarks, so here we are. I don't see the value in letting people denigrate an admin with throw away remarks that they aren't willing to back up.

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Re: Trialmin Review: RogueSteampunker

Unread postby Cobby » Tue Sep 18, 2018 1:37 am #440185

Saying my comment was baseless is fine because, again, github does not make it easy to look up comments. Not much I can do except screenshot examples in the future or, again, search literally every PR for the sake of making it clear that he said a singular rude thing so make sure it doesn't become problematic looking forward. Getting "evidence" for such a minute issue is absurd when it wasn't being discussed in any post as a "please bar him from admin" or "he's a shitler". I just needed to post it somewhere so it would be an avenue of improvement to continue on rather than it potentially becoming an issue.

Behavior is literally a part of the what is expected of admins.

I can edit the post to say "Please ensure you're considerate on all platforms where you are known as a /tg/ admin. That said, should be promoted" but I've already explained that several times already, i'm not sure what the end goal is here. Literally nothing was gained from this and nothing will be gained from this barring some sense of "nah nah boo boo" because someone felt like they "won" a pointless discussion. Let's end it here please.
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