[LRP] Add a rule about RRing people during lowpop (15 or less ingame)

[serxule]

there's recently been a few people who are very much shitters during lowpop, yes they were an antag, but considering that they were RRing people (husking or otherwise excessively damaging/hiding body after stripped) for either no reason or to contract them, is an extremely fucking shitty move and arguably completely breaks rule 1 of dont be a dick, considering they're rr'ing for either no reason or barely any reason during very lowpop, yes i get it "oh lrp antags can do whatever" but i think rule 1 should apply much more heavily with RR since its far more impactful on lowpop, rounds last longer and chances are there's nobody who would even notice you're dead, and there'd be little to no midround spawns.

[blackdav123]

this is already against the rules please ahelp when you see it

[Cobby]

There’s a murderbone rule but you can legally kill someone and rr if they’re you’re objective.

I think at some point if you’re playing lowpop and it’s not extended you accept the risk associated with that, including your round being ruined. If theyre not doing it maliciously then sorry but that’s just part of the game.

Malicious being the player is being a loser, not antag being an antag

[serxule]

There’s a murderbone rule but you can legally kill someone and rr if they’re you’re objective.

I think at some point if you’re playing lowpop and it’s not extended you accept the risk associated with that, including your round being ruined. If theyre not doing it maliciously then sorry but that’s just part of the game.

Malicious being the player is being a loser, not antag being an antag

i wasnt a greentext objective, contracting is a progtot secondary objective that doesnt need the person dead at any point, not to mention said person husked me with 500+ burn around 10 minutes before they even contracted me, so chances are there was absolutely 0 reason to do so

[sinfulbliss]

Ided policy thread based on in-game malding from like 2 hours ago:

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01:31:28	SAY	Serxule/(Slithers-In-Tunnels) "this is a skill issue"	(128, 79, 2)	Lesser Aft Maintenance
01:31:54	EMOTE	Serxule/(Slithers-In-Tunnels) gasps!	(128, 84, 2)	Lesser Aft Maintenance
01:31:55	EMOTE	Serxule/(Slithers-In-Tunnels) seizes up and falls limp, her eyes dead and lifeless...	(128, 84, 2)	Lesser Aft Maintenance
01:35:51	SAY	Serxule/(Slithers-In-Tunnels) (DEAD) "wow this shithead really husked me with over 500 damage to contract me?"
02:09:47	SAY	Serxule/(Slithers-In-Tunnels) (DEAD) "lowpop shitter"	(112, 96, 2)	Robotics Lab
02:09:57	SAY	Serxule/(Slithers-In-Tunnels) (DEAD) "get a fucking life"	(112, 96, 2)	Robotics Lab
02:21:02	SAY	Serxule/(Slithers-In-Tunnels) (DEAD) "?"	(101, 55, 2)	Emergency Shuttle
02:25:56	SAY	Serxule/(Slithers-In-Tunnels) (DEAD) "oh of course the shitter was fucking shitful"	(113, 11, 1)	Escape Pod One
02:26:34	SAY	Serxule/(Slithers-In-Tunnels) (DEAD) "die irl"	(113, 34, 1)	CentCom Recovery Ship
02:26:37	SAY	Serxule/(Slithers-In-Tunnels) (DEAD) "unironically"	(113, 34, 1)	CentCom Recovery Ship

https://scrubby.melonmesa.com/round/208 ... e=game.txt

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10:35:30	SAY	Serxule/(Taro) "you already have combat gloves"	(102, 174, 3)	Brig
10:35:33	SAY	Serxule/(Taro) "why steal mine"	(102, 175, 3)	Brig
10:35:42	SAY	Serxule/(Taro) "yeah they're from a portal"	(106, 175, 3)	Brig
10:35:45	SAY	Serxule/(Taro) "why steal them"	(110, 176, 4)	Brig Overlook
10:36:01	SAY	Serxule/(Taro) "the portals literally drop it"	(133, 180, 4)	Labor Shuttle Dock
10:36:17	SAY	Serxule/(Taro) "kill yourself"	(133, 176, 4)	Labor Shuttle Dock
10:36:22	EMOTE	Serxule/(Taro) seizes up and falls limp, his eyes dead and lifeless...	(133, 176, 4)	Labor Shuttle Dock
10:36:28	GAME	Serxule/(Taro) has opted to do-not-resuscitate / DNR from their body (Taro)	(133, 178, 4)	Labor Shuttle Dock
10:36:37	SAY	Serxule/(Taro) (DEAD) "fucking shit eater"	(128, 178, 4)	Interrogation Room
10:36:44	SAY	Serxule/(Taro) (DEAD) "i shouldve fucking killed him instantly"	(119, 178, 4)	Fore Maintenance
10:37:15	SAY	Serxule/(Taro) (DEAD) "im actually fucking metagrudging axle from now on"	(109, 178, 4)	Brig Overlook
10:37:22	SAY	Serxule/(Taro) (DEAD) "killing him fucking roundstart anytime im an antag"	(109, 178, 4)	Brig Overlook
10:38:07	SAY	Serxule/(Taro) (DEAD) "he should be fucking banned"	(111, 177, 4)	Head of Security's Office
10:39:51	SAY	Serxule/(Taro) (DEAD) "let me get midround so i can instantly kill him"	(118, 135, 4)	Bridge
10:40:36	SAY	Serxule/(Taro) (DEAD) "im the one who can murderbone with only carp and no stuns or stims during 80 pop"	(140, 133, 4)	Atrium
10:41:50	SAY	Serxule/(Taro) (DEAD) "the only reason why im so good is because i played the game competitively for like a year"	(146, 122, 4)	Medbay Lobby
10:42:02	SAY	Serxule/(Taro) (DEAD) "trying as hard as i could to get better at combat and be proficient at 90% of the jobs"	(146, 122, 4)	Medbay Lobby
10:42:14	SAY	Serxule/(Taro) (DEAD) "which is why i constantly burnout from the game and stop playing for a few months"	(146, 122, 4)	Medbay Lobby
10:42:26	SAY	Serxule/(Taro) (DEAD) "because i achieved my goal"	(137, 131, 4)	Starboard Primary Hallway
Serxule/(Doug Hardy) "kill yourself faggot" (Medbay Aft (152,118,4))
[2023-06-12 09:30:37.075] Serxule/(Doug Hardy) (DEAD) "axle should fucking kill himself" (Medbay Lobby (147,123,4))
[2023-06-12 09:31:06.271] Serxule/(Doug Hardy) (DEAD) "HE FUCKING KILLED INFECTED AND FULLSTRIPPED ME WHEN I WAS GETTING MY ONLY USEABLE FUCKING ARM REPLACED" (Medbay Lobby (147,123,4))
[2023-06-12 09:31:09.592] Serxule/(Doug Hardy) (DEAD) "HE SHOULD FUCKING KILL HIMSELF" (Medbay Lobby (147,123,4)

https://scrubby.melonmesa.com/round/208 ... e=game.txt

Pertinent policy:

[serxule]

did you just admit to metagrudging

[serxule]

also quoting a rule isnt a good look when you consistently and horribly break rule 1 every single round, you should be perma'd

[sinfulbliss]

did you just admit to metagrudging

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 Serxule/(Taro) (DEAD) "im actually fucking metagrudging axle from now on"	(109, 178, 4)	Brig Overlook

[serxule]

oh also, taking quotes from dchat out of context isnt good either, pretty much everybody agrees you're a horrible shitter

[serxule]

also how is this an ided policy? murderboning and rring for 0 reason during lowpop shouldnt be a rule? shut the fuck up, you're a horrible person.

[vect0r]

Imagine telling somebody to kill themself over a video game.

[serxule]

Imagine telling somebody to kill themself over a video game.

imagine going out of your way every round to be a godawful person intentionally ruining peoples time

[serxule]

like, maybe you should have self reflection that YOU'RE the problem, instead of going into a policy thread to go "hey im the guy causing all the problems now laugh at the person whose upset from my actions!!"

[vect0r]

Imagine telling somebody to kill themself over a video game.

imagine going out of your way every round to be a godawful person intentionally ruining peoples time

I really hope you take a few deep breaths, and look at your dchat logs. There is a difference between being a low pop shitter (idc if that’s true for axle) and telling somebody to kill themself. It’s only a game.

[Vekter]

This is already against the rules unless your death is an objective. We don't differentiate between progtot and regular objectives.

If he husked you but your death wasn't one of his objectives, you should have adminhelped the issue and it would have ideally been handled. You didn't do this and instead decided to make a policy thread about it.

[serxule]

This is already against the rules unless your death is an objective. We don't differentiate between progtot and regular objectives.

If he husked you but your death wasn't one of his objectives, you should have adminhelped the issue and it would have ideally been handled. You didn't do this and instead decided to make a policy thread about it.

i wouldve but
1. i have ahelped when this has happened before (atleast a few times), a long time ago, not recently, and nothing was done, so considering my frequent breaks from ss13 i wasnt aware if anythings changed
2. it was very lowpop, less than 10 people were ingame, and very rarely do admins get on between 12am-6am PST, or even respond on the discord at that

but thanks for confirming that it is already a rule, i'll ahelp it from now on

[Ryusenshu]

here is the policy on that
viewtopic.php?f=85&t=33990&p=686574&hil ... ne#p686574

[sinfulbliss]

This is already against the rules unless your death is an objective. We don't differentiate between progtot and regular objectives.

If he husked you but your death wasn't one of his objectives, you should have adminhelped the issue and it would have ideally been handled. You didn't do this and instead decided to make a policy thread about it.

We welcome admins to note players for indiscriminate murder during low population rounds at their discretion.

Indiscriminate murder can be defined as "any killing that is done for no reason other than expanding ones body count".

Headmin ruling allows murdering targets whose death isn't an objective, so long as there is some reason for it other than "expanding one's body count."
The protection is to prevent someone from depopulating the station, not to prevent non-objective murder wholesale.

E.g. in this case I was playing as a pacifist and decided to kill my kidnap target because they were being annoying and screaming about ERP after I stripped them. I opted to toast them on electrified grilles. Their death wasn't an objective but I don't think this is against rules.

[serxule]

This is already against the rules unless your death is an objective. We don't differentiate between progtot and regular objectives.

If he husked you but your death wasn't one of his objectives, you should have adminhelped the issue and it would have ideally been handled. You didn't do this and instead decided to make a policy thread about it.

We welcome admins to note players for indiscriminate murder during low population rounds at their discretion.

Indiscriminate murder can be defined as "any killing that is done for no reason other than expanding ones body count".

Headmin ruling allows murdering targets whose death isn't an objective, so long as there is some reason for it other than "expanding one's body count."
The protection is to prevent someone from depopulating the station, not to prevent non-objective murder wholesale.

E.g. in this case I was playing as a pacifist and decided to kill my kidnap target because they were being annoying and screaming about ERP after I stripped them. I opted to toast them on electrified grilles. Their death wasn't an objective but I don't think this is against rules.

so you fullstrip, drag into maints,i yell for help over comms, say two things about ERP (blatantly obvious joke), so you decide to husk me on a grill, set me on fire, hide my body in a locker, and then around 10 minutes later contract me?