Fake Parcel Bomb Prank Gone Wrong

[Archie700]

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It was just a hilarious prank, fine gentlemen.

[EmpressMaia]

So many players go down the Chem path and get banned. We should remove chem to save these players from themselves

[BonChoi]

I'm praying for Epoc because I can already tell this appeal is going to be an ordeal and a half.

[BonChoi]

https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/pull/82291

Recently, i've abused this feature to effectively stunlock people for minutes on end, it's very much NOT fun for everyone else... Pray this gets merged before everyone catches on to how overpowered Haloperidol currently is.

What a good guy.

[dendydoom]

this is how fun things get removed

[ekaterina]

A ban might be deserved, but this ban is too severe. Commute this man's sentence.

[PapaMichael]

Just don't detonate Haloperidol nades in public places with zero rp reasons. This isn't a code issue, it's a you being an asshole issue

A ban might be deserved, but this ban is too severe. Commute this man's sentence.

The mentioned previous notes for grenade grief makes this seem fair to me

[conrad]

This ban is not deserved, but the a week ban for this is not severe enough. Permaban someone at random

[Archie700]

What a fun guy.

[Justice12354]

So many players go down the Chem path and get banned. We should remove chem to save these players from themselves

Let's just go ahead and make all players pacified nuggets

[conrad]

So many players go down the Chem path and get banned. We should remove chem to save these players from themselves

Let's just go ahead and make all players pacified nuggets

We should add psychological alergies to stuff like in A Clockwork Orange where a person starts vomiting and coughing at the sight of whatever they get noted for.

[iwishforducks]

What a fun guy.

god forbid boys have a lil fun…

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lol, rofl, lmfao, i hope somebody just QC bans this fool. obvious griefer, just perma him. dont wait for the next ban.

[CMDR_Gungnir]

This ban is not deserved, but the a week ban for this is not severe enough. Permaban someone at random

This is a brilliant idea.

Unfortunately, the dice have chosen you. What would you like your last words to be?

[BonChoi]

This dude is going to try to suffocate Epoc I swear to God.

[conrad]

This ban is not deserved, but the a week ban for this is not severe enough. Permaban someone at random

This is a brilliant idea.

Unfortunately, the dice have chosen you. What would you like your last words to be?

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[Vekter]

I'm not certain I enjoy the idea of us using someone's bans on another server to extend their ban, but it does look like they explicitly came to /tg/ just because they were banned on Yog, which we don't want.

E: To clarify, I don't mind people being banned on one server and coming to /tg/ in an attempt to clear their record or try and improve their gameplay in general. What I don't want to see is people getting banned from a server and coming here to continue the same behavior because they're having fun griefing.

[Constellado]

Honestly I think 7 days is justified here.

Mainly due to how he already has a note here, and the fact that being asleep/stuck on the floor for that long is WAY worse than just being dead imho.

[Epoc]

I'm not certain I enjoy the idea of us using someone's bans on another server to extend their ban, but it does look like they explicitly came to /tg/ just because they were banned on Yog, which we don't want.

E: To clarify, I don't mind people being banned on one server and coming to /tg/ in an attempt to clear their record or try and improve their gameplay in general. What I don't want to see is people getting banned from a server and coming here to continue the same behavior because they're having fun griefing.

Pretty much my thoughts exactly. This wouldn't have been as severe otherwise

[TheBibleMelts]

does he know that this isn't a single player game, I really can't tell

[iansdoor]

I'm not certain I enjoy the idea of us using someone's bans on another server to extend their ban, but it does look like they explicitly came to /tg/ just because they were banned on Yog, which we don't want.

E: To clarify, I don't mind people being banned on one server and coming to /tg/ in an attempt to clear their record or try and improve their gameplay in general. What I don't want to see is people getting banned from a server and coming here to continue the same behavior because they're having fun griefing.

I don't think that was in the initial investigation part. If someone is continuing the behavior from another server. I am not sure what to make about that other than wow, I suppose nothing had changed.
What irks me a bit from the appeal is.

At no point did i self-antag. Sure, plenty of people got angry about the pranks, but rather
than solve things in-character they'd rather cry to the administration.
Haloperidol is COMPLETELY non-lethal and doesn't cause any real lasting damage other than
being annoying (I'll likely PR a nerf after this is posted.) Most of the crew just didn't
bother to purge the chems and instead claimed multiver didn't purge Haloperidol.
(I checked the code. They're full of shit.) Overall, It was just a bunch of tomfoolery
i was having while experimenting with Haloperidol. The least you can hit me with is the
"Don't be a dick" rule, of which i won't contest you on as even I think Haloperidol foam is a bit evil.

and

I think a lot of people got upset because of the stamina crit, which only goes to show that Haloperidol needs a nerf pr.
But like i've stated previously, nobody was actually hurt, and most people got by my pranks without issue.
At bare minimum atleast chop the ban length to 3 days. I've got my kicks out of Haloperidol for the time being and would like to move on.
Thanks for you're time.

I am curious of how many people he hit though and calculate the chemical in their system from the initial burst of it and how long till the last person got it out of their system as well. I might look into that, simply cause mass foam flood of that crap is awful and stacks on each other cause its form.

[Justice12354]

does he know that this isn't a single player game, I really can't tell

Idk abt you, but I'm AI-controlled

[ekaterina]

This problem could've been avoided had i just been giving antag so i can actually play the game and do the things i wanted to do.

Ain't no way he really said this... "you could've avoided me breaking the rules if you'd just given me special treatment "

[Justice12354]

This problem could've been avoided had i just been giving antag so i can actually play the game and do the things i wanted to do.

Ain't no way he really said this... "you could've avoided me breaking the rules if you'd just given me special treatment "

This was all RNGesus' fault

[ekaterina]

This problem could've been avoided had i just been giving antag so i can actually play the game and do the things i wanted to do.

Ain't no way he really said this... "you could've avoided me breaking the rules if you'd just given me special treatment "

This was all RNGesus' fault

So true, it's such a shame bro has no agency whatsoever and his actions are determined by random rice rolls...

[conrad]

I'm not certain I enjoy the idea of us using someone's bans on another server to extend their ban, but it does look like they explicitly came to /tg/ just because they were banned on Yog, which we don't want.

E: To clarify, I don't mind people being banned on one server and coming to /tg/ in an attempt to clear their record or try and improve their gameplay in general. What I don't want to see is people getting banned from a server and coming here to continue the same behavior because they're having fun griefing.

Pretty much my thoughts exactly. This wouldn't have been as severe otherwise

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[PapaMichael]

holy shit it was 30 whole grenades
yeah nuke this guy from orbit

[Constellado]

holy shit it was 30 whole grenades
yeah nuke this guy from orbit

Holy shit,THIRTY? In one round? No way...

Nuke him.

That must have been horrible to deal with. I have seen people hit by haloperidol and it honestly looks like a horrible way to spend half a round in.

"Several seconds" my ass. Not with thirty grenades.

[Timonk]

more importantly for my stats, this individual is the sixth person in the last 2 months to use the ban appeal format 100% correctly

[Jacquerel]

what if we unbanned this guy but made him permanently unconscious for 7 days

[CMDR_Gungnir]

This ban is not deserved, but the a week ban for this is not severe enough. Permaban someone at random

This is a brilliant idea.

Unfortunately, the dice have chosen you. What would you like your last words to be?

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Make sure to salute as the bomb comes down. iO

[DrAmazing343]

iO GLORY TO DEMOCRACY

[RedBaronFlyer]

Welp. Guess that settles it, I just can't win. I'll wait the seven days i guess.

Guy is acting like he got banned for shotgunning a bad guy. Using something to grief, then making a PR to fix it doesn't change the fact that you did grief.
Imagine if I burned down your house and then installed fire sprinklers in your next house. I still burned your first house down.

[DrAmazing343]

Welp. Guess that settles it, I just can't win. I'll wait the seven days i guess.

-redbaronsnipper-

This is the most cop-out response to "losing" your appeal. If he just left out "I can't win," that'd make it 200% less awfully incriminating because wow that makes you look like an ass. It's like they've just ignored everything discussed, y'know?

[Istoprocent1]

The PR wasn't needed tbh - you could do fentanyl or CH foam and the outcome is pretty much the same. Most foam can be cancer and the chems don't need nerfing. If something doesn't get used often its because its a niche thing or takes too much effort compared to other options.

[Constellado]

The PR wasn't needed tbh - you could do fentanyl or CH foam and the outcome is pretty much the same. Most foam can be cancer and the chems don't need nerfing. If something doesn't get used often its because its a niche thing or takes too much effort compared to other options.

It's needed because mediborgs can fabricate it.

I have seen a mediborg just mess up a security officer and force him to stay on the ground for 15 minutes. Not being able to stop the criminal breaking into the bridge right next to him...

I think he ended up just ghosting or suiciding soon after...

[kinnebian]

oh bother..

[Sightld2]

He makes a good point, if we simply gave him antag, zero rules would have been broken

[ekaterina]

bro didn't even try to address the headmin's concerns...

[dendydoom]

I do NOT want to have to wait 10 rounds in a row before i can finally do the ONE thing i've been wanting to do for hours.

i want to believe this is a joke because this is an extremely selfish way to approach a multiplayer roleplaying game that requires players to mutually agree to and uphold a shared sense of fair play and consideration for each other in order for it to even work in the first place.

everyone gets the same chance to roll antag. it's fair this way and no one gets preferential treatment. if you didn't get the roll, then too bad.

if every player had this mentality then the game would be entirely unplayable.

download the source files and experiment as much as you want on your own if you want to explore these mechanics.

[vect0r]

I do NOT want to have to wait 10 rounds in a row before i can finally do the ONE thing i've been wanting to do for hours.

i want to believe this is a joke because this is an extremely selfish way to approach a multiplayer roleplaying game that requires players to mutually agree to and uphold a shared sense of fair play and consideration for each other in order for it to even work in the first place.

everyone gets the same chance to roll antag. it's fair this way and no one gets preferential treatment. if you didn't get the roll, then too bad.

if every player had this mentality then the game would be entirely unplayable.

download the source files and experiment as much as you want on your own if you want to explore these mechanics.

Also, if you have made a horrible 'nade, just ask to see if somebody wants it to be tested on them! There are so many bored people that I am sure that some will say yes!

[MooCow12]

was this a clown, i remembered there being a clown that said they were making proximity grenades and they wanted to learn about launchpad circuits then they got lynched.