/tg/Station 13

Ghosts may act as antags.

I forgot to lock the topic.

A key aspect of how the escalation rules as mentioned by Archie: As a non-antagonist you may begin conflict with another player with valid reason (refusal of critical services, belligerent attitude, etc) OR if it does not excessively interfere with their ability to do their job. Whomever you engage ...

Headmin clarification: Rule 11 specifically prohibits bigotry. If the slur isn't bigoted, it's just an insult. With the exception of ligger, basically any insult I can think of that I'd allow insta-validity for, I'd be noting or banning the person that said it too. Under current policy, retard isn't...

Hamboy opted to take a break from adminning for a bit and has retired.

Hamboy has gone to the corner shop for some milk. They said they may be some time and have retired while they complete this quest.

We already removed assistant (and sec) access for a month in Moth/Melb/Poes.

Nobody really noticed any change from turning it off. So it was secretly turned back on. Nobody noticed it being turned back on, either.

Nothing changed.

Put the bottle down and go to bed.

When you wake up tomorrow sober and able to type, you will have a different outlook on life.

as an aside, given the metacoms notes, i kinda want to know why these two were only banned for a week and not permabanned for metacoms back in 2020. They are failing my vibe check, which is hard to do. Maybe dom had covid or something and it impaired their judgement? I referenced the past appeal in...

Some people interpret painting the station in colours as less an expression of pride, and more as just attention seeking. And they will give these people attention. Often with a bit of trolling. And that invariably turns into an admin issue. And admin issues over Rule 11 turn into headmin issues. An...

And honestly, I would actually prefer it that players not go around spraying the pride flags all over the place, every single shift, for no reason other than to trigger the bigots. Repeated grandstanding pisses off people. Pissed off people generate very annoying and very stupid ahelps. I would pre...

"I was just copying an innocent South Park bit" is a flag so red that our bull's proverbial dead ancestors are reanimating and rising from their graves to charge at it too. We often ask our admin team to give players the benefit of the doubt, but we don't ask them to pull a blindfold over ...

One of the few joys of being a headmin is the opportunity to tell players I'm not buying it when they try and piss on my leg then suggest to me it must have been raining. Is this the best Timberpoes quote of the term? Ekat that can't see the forest for the t ree s, and is picking a take that doesn'...

"An admin so good his trial period was secretly for headmin."

What the fuck am I even reading in this peanut. Admin attacking Vekter for sensibly handling an obvious bigot. Sensibly handling by giving them just enough rope to climb out of the well, hoping they don't accidentally kill themselves with it instead. Ekat that can't see the forest for the t ree s, a...

We liked him so much, we made him headmin.

TheBibleMelts has been promoted from Trial to Headmin Elect Game Admin.

Kennibian has retired to focus on real life for a bit. Good luck! o7

Kinnebian has retired from the admin team to focus on other things in the short-to-medium-term. Best of luck, my dude! o7

I call him Fishy in the admin channels. He has never once complained about this. The nads on this fish are tungsten.

I like Dendy. They've got proper SS13 soul. We need more Dendys.

Is this even a config? I very briefly checked and couldn't find anything relevant.

If it's not config, it's a code change and not valid for policy discussion.

Maybe next term will put some energy into overthrowing the host instead of trying to fork the codebase or splitting LRP off from tg. What is this referring to? Some of the candidate threads for incoming headmins. In less than a month we'll have 3 new faces ruling on policy and Hugs/Kieth/Poes will ...

Dendydoom has been a trial admin for two months. Please use this thread as public review; it's encouraged for players to comment on how well/badly the trial admin has done and whether or not they think the trial admin should be made a full admin, if they should be removed from the DB or if their pro...

MrrFiish (SCP-527) has been a trial admin in containment at Site-19 for two months. Please use this thread as public review; it's encouraged for players to comment on how well/badly the trial admin has done and whether or not they think the trial admin should be made a full admin, if they should be ...

Bmon has been a trial admin for two months. Please use this thread as public review; it's encouraged for players to comment on how well/badly the trial admin has done and whether or not they think the trial admin should be made a full admin, if they should be removed from the DB or if their promotio...

Banning ligger is an MSO skill issue. Maybe next term will put some energy into overthrowing the host instead of trying to fork the codebase or splitting LRP off from tg. Lots of small-picture candidates on the horizon though, so I don't think we'll see a bigger picture host coup anytime soon. Until...

Posting under peanut policy due to a difference of precedence vs what a headmin has said - hoping to gain clarity: However, if they have no intent to answer a ticket we do ask them to make sure they try to get an admin that will handle it onto the servers if they're blocking our ahelp relay system ...

Misdoubtful put some thoughts down, and I'm going to take a moment to put mine down. There simple reality is that our admin team are not forced to answer tickets. That's your very most starting of all starting points. If an admin sees a ticket pop up and they don't want to investigate it, they don't...

Ice cold facts from dendy.

MSO has stated in the admin channels on this topic: MrStonedOne — 02/08/2023 12:42 [ligger validity is] an ooc ruling so abusing it as a tator is metagaming for the wgw one at least that was what the logic was. there is only ooc rule reasons to want to do it its a murky line one of the benefits to t...

It's already in the rules as a power admins have. No ruling is necessary. We're not going to force admins to enforce it like they have an entire arboretum lodged up their arses, either. The same old adage applies; we shouldn't let the rules get in the way of a good story. It is a discretion to be pu...

Here's some additional input from a second-term headmin: Tyranny of the Majority Uninformed allows any two headmins to make a ruling, totally bypassing the third headmin and not involving them in any way, shape or form. Informed requires that all headmins will have had the opportunity to read and co...

Dealing with players recalling the shuttle, regardless of antag status, falls under Rule 0 "Admins are also allowed to intervene in rounds when it is in the best interest of the playerbase." Rule 0 Precedents: Admins have intervened before and will do so again in situations where a player,...

Ya I'll get that suicide prevention one tweaked back. In retrospect it's just better as a meta fetter on the letter of the rules.

Yet more satisfied Timberpoes voters!

Clear admin misconduct. Banning a player for approaching you and asking a question is beyond retarded. Wordlessly banning a cooperative player is malicious. Responding to a player's appeal and complaint with memes (and nothing else) is unprofessional. I rarely argue for harsh punishments, but this ...

Clear admin misconduct. Banning a player for approaching you and asking a question is beyond retarded. Wordlessly banning a cooperative player is malicious. Responding to a player's appeal and complaint with memes (and nothing else) is unprofessional. I rarely argue for harsh punishments, but this ...

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Try /tg/station. I've heard they have a really high tolerance for bigots and their admin team is simply delightful.

The key with Manuel is avoiding its community.

If you can just treat it as an LRP server where you're expected to put in a little more effort to interact and RP, you're basically set.

3. A conflict with a secondary Ai is the least fun thing conceivable. I would want to protect Ai players from the unreasonable/unwanted creation of new Ai by non-antagonists. On this point I agree, the triviality in which AIs can kill eachother is dumb and the kind of conflict when an Asimov AI is ...

Any Law 0 gained as a malfunctioning AI does not have to be followed and it allows you to ignore all other laws. This could probably be better worded as A Malfunctioning AI can obey or ignore all laws as they see fit, and are subject to Server Rule 4 as a full antagonist. This better explains what ...

Also doublepost, the lack of precedents set the foundation for future headmin terms to pile on even more precedents of their own, ruining silicon policy all over again but in a brand new way!

The ride never ends.

Goals are solid "Server Rule 1 applies when interacting with silicons. Going out of your way to seriously negatively impact or end the round for silicons with little IC justification is against the rules." This is cool and all, and I get we want to keep things simple and brief, but I feel...

This is going to be a bit of a wild ride. There's a couple of redrafts going around right now, and here's my current proposal that I've put forward to the headmin team for discussion: https://tgstation13.org/wiki/User:Timberpoes By word and character count it is half the size of existing silicon pol...

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