/tg/Station 13

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I will deny this appeal for the time being. Show you can get some normal time on some other jobs and we'll see about reconsidering it.

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I don't think it's unreasonable to ask that you just don't make traps, at all, unless you're an antagonist.

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If they repeatedly jail somebody for no offense, especially at random, they would be banned They would also be banned for creating a contraption that jails people randomly Your job is not to cause chaos and make the station less safe as an engineer, it is the opposite Even for a clown there are limi...

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Yeah, I'd find it an immense struggle to say knowing someone has a secban (but not a server ban?) on Bay would affect how I'd treat them being shitcurity on Sybil or even Manuel.

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TheBibleMelts wrote: ↑Thu Oct 27, 2022 2:09 pm because well-meaning smooth brain static lizardman is all that keeps me from getting too spicy with my gameplay.

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The fact that you seem to think it's always Not That Bad or Someone Else's Fault indicates to me that if I lift this, you are simply going to continue building disposals traps as a nonantag. The ban has lasted 4 months and counting because I looked at you and your history and thought, "This is ...

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Because the core identity of the Traitor is that they have an assortment of cool syndicate tech, all obviously distinct from station tech, that allows them to do Cool Syndicate Things. Each of the low-threat antags has a different core identity - Traitor is Tech, Changeling is biochem, and now we a...

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Ehhhhhh, at-risk humans can call a shuttle out long before air quality becomes a harmful problem, and the station doesn't actually radiate heat into space, if there's no other compounding issue (breaches, etc.).

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Because the core identity of the Traitor is that they have an assortment of cool syndicate tech, all obviously distinct from station tech, that allows them to do Cool Syndicate Things. Each of the low-threat antags has a different core identity - Traitor is Tech, Changeling is biochem, and now we al...

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Now that we have Dynamic they can simply kill a traitor for the emag if they want it so much
(but idk it was probably cooler when anything being emagged meant there were traitors around)

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My takes from playing around with them: - Airlock Authentication Override Card has too few charges and/or charges way too slow for nuke ops. Yeah, they get Syndicate Jaws of Life, but those are slow-ish, and reinforced windows are so absurdly strong that shooting them out as a nuke op isn't a feasib...

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how did you acquire the detective's ID and why did you decide to fry it

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A character limit might make posting logs an exercise in misery

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Aight, reviews of all the linked rounds, pulling the logs directly: 189544 Round starts. Not antag, say "another day / another L." Immediately ask for chem access. Make bath salts, offer them to the station over common. Look for an inducer, make a funny floor pill, make funny grenade, get ...

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Skorvold wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:08 pm the rampant unpredictability

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Hiya. I did some advisory log-diving for Kubisopplay on this and have been given the go-ahead to present a few findings that you'll want to address on this. Several relevant factors: - After your previous roleban from medical for doing this exact thing, you basically just stopped playing until it ex...

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I assume by the full multicultural experience you mean slurs against ethnic groups so specific you didn't know they even had their own slurs

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Hey the zyb index proved to be useful and should remain as the official system to measure the RP/powergame level of players. iirc someone caught a perma recently because an examination across several rounds revealed that, in addition to griefy behavior, they used say 0 times in the average round

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I didn't read the quintuple post in the main thread but I now support whoever didn't quintuple post on principle

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This looks an awful lot like stupid games stupid prizes from the tide

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Heretic Sacrifices are in fact a more effective method of healing than medbay 9 times out of 10

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Yeah but making them not kill people is even worse because now they're valid and they're going to get subtly metagamed

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I think the problem was the gibbing, specifically, because it blasted organs all over and deleted the original body so even if you were being a friendlyheretic and gave their head to medbay it was like a 33% chance that medbay actually figured out how to revive them, and if they did it put them on a...

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This is going to be a really depressing answer but back in THE OLD DAYS OH FUCK MY HIP IS BROKEN HELP ME I CAN"T GET UP I had a handful of characters I would roll between - one who did science and occasionally medical, one who did sec, AI/Cyborg, etc. I don't do that these days because the aver...

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I strongly suspect that the problem of green-seeming shifts is aggravated on both servers by a lack of effective tools for enabling more destructive behavior among the common, lower-threat antagonists (Thief, Traitor, Changeling, Heretic) and on Manuel by a lack of reliable, practical administrative...

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Me, a Heretic victim, coming back to the station and making a stun prod: Yeah I read the EULA before clicking, why Also, the problem isn't that it's not enforced, it's that it's nigh-unenforceable. It would require an admin-message in addition to the normal logging (and possibly Admin HUD interactio...

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will you yell at people for doing this? I had to code out instant assembly bombs a while ago because deadmans were such cancer and none was stopping people. I wonder if the admin team's changed enough to make it work On god, I will comb the logs to compare when someone assembled their bomb to what ...

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Gonna use the station blueprints to delete the bridge so nobody can hack the comms console like a genius

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Formatting fixed in OP

Also, note that the Hacked Law Kill All Cultists thing occurred in https://sb.atlantaned.space/rounds/192359 though the ban was placed in the next round, for anyone log diving

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I'm inclined to agree that relying on the flavor text to manage this system is unfeasible. On a server with more serious RP expectations where people will have none of your metagaming because of a widespread culture that shuns people who do it this might work. We're not that server. We can't exactly...

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But making a deadman switch bomb whether you're an antag or not , i.e. prepping for attacks without reason to be cautious of attacks, does not fly. It's too much even on Sybil, and on Manuel it's a pretty damn iffy for any nonantag on Manuel, no matter what the current threats. He only did it after...

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after reading the appeal thoroughly now as funny as it is i think the player honestly did nothing wrong even the bombing part. it is incredibly annoying to have to kill someone who constantly hangs around a group of metabuddies and never leaves. when this player was lynched by such a group, his bom...

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Yo btw while I'm thinking of it why is ONLY THE AI alerted when a hack happens? Why should the AI be the filter for that information (or it just vanishes if there isn't a living AI)

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Ehhh copying someone's character exactly is often considered a bit of a Rule 1/"Don't make it weird" thing

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I can't find whatever code is responsible for this, but that seems terrible either way.

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I'mma point out that the suicide bomb did in fact go off so it sounds, I say without actually reading logs or anything at all, like the Manuelites had their bomb coming

(but also probably don't make a deadman switch unless you're an antag or there's a loud antag known already)

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Re: antagbans, my inclination is to say... A lot of people can and have gotten that sort of advantage by being well-known as having disabled antag settings. I doubt the ban database will meaningfully contribute to this. If you know someone well enough to know they have an antagban (requested or othe...

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IMAGINE NOT LINKING THE THREAD

I M A G I N E

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An easy way to bring gimmicks back and return to the sandbox is that custom objective idea. Which received maintainer approval! We already have this on a downstream but I didn’t think tg would have much interest, I can try adding an admin rejection button and porting it here. We added it because so...

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I am the radical name extremist and I say as long as the names are coherent and have a name-like structure and don't break other server rules, leave them alone. Appearance Ban people who try to ruin it for other people but let people have whatever references, mononyms, and other shenanigans they lik...

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I support it as long as it doesn't separately list every single antag type individually for every antagban we apply (or they're split onto separate pages. I just don't want the bans crowded with "This dude was banned from WIZARD and NUKE OP and TRAITOR and CHANGELING and HERETIC and SPACE DRAGO...

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Let malf AI say fuck

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The more I see progtot on lowpop the more disappointing I find it in general.

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:toolbox: i'll play it when they get rid of the wierd furry shit I've got bad news about TG station, friend. Felinids aren't furry. They're effectively cosplaying humans. 10-20%animal at most. It ain't furry until at least 50% animal. Before that point they're monstergirls. Yes this matters. Furrys...

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Human engineers are a failed concept

Replace them with a drone department

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If you genuinely can't tell the difference between being destructive IC vs the things that are banned under Rule 8 for being weird OOC you should probably study the relevant rules to understand the substantive differences There are situations where plasma flooding on Manuel is allowed or in a gray a...

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You've always been responsible for the laws you upload. The rules are "(Ahelp if it seems really sketchy, but) obey your laws/orders as written" because otherwise AIs can delay unnecessarily in legitimate cases.

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