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lo and behold it works.

Thanks Jordie, ilu.

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Is that listed all on one line? I'm pretty sure you need each 'ckey = rank' on a new line. E.g. # NOTE: syntax was changed to allow hyphenation of ranknames, since spaces are stripped. # ############################################################################################### razharas = Game ...

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Skorvold wrote:Remove the hashtag before your name?

No dice. Removing the hashtag or slapping a space between it and my ckey didn't work. Still refusing to acknowledge me when I start up a new world.

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Ikarrus wrote:Show us how you added yourself to the cfg.

http://i.imgur.com/4DgJOeM.jpg

linked because my res is huge

anyway, tried a few different ways but that's the way I tried originally; capitalized my key correctly, tabbed down, etc - none worked.

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Probably belongs in Coding, but it didn't exactly seem like a 'code' question.

Dicking around trying to test some stuff on a private server. Added my ckey to admins.cfg with the correct rank in the correct place and it refuses to acknowledge me as a server admin. Insight?

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The report is fine, though it could be delayed until the actual CentComm report yeah.

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I think we just need to come down harder on excessive powergaming and validhunting for the sake of validhunting. There's a lot of meta that people let slide because it's convenient to them, which is totally bullshit and shouldn't be okay at all.

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unless you're working in an environment that has bombcap removed, just heat up a mixed can of o2:plasma at 2:1 bomb should be uh... room temp O2 tank, pump empty, then put a 9:1 ratio of oxygen:plasma (so, basically, 903kpa of O2 and fill up the rest with plasma, e-z as pie). the plasma can - okay, ...

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If the law specifically states x is human, x is human even if they appear nonhuman because the definition of 'human' is attributed directly to a name and face, not their extensive genetic makeup (as is inferred by the stock definition of 'human' by the AI) Now, if x goes ahead and changes shape int...

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If the law specifically states x is human, x is human even if they appear nonhuman because the definition of 'human' is attributed directly to a name and face, not their extensive genetic makeup (as is inferred by the stock definition of 'human' by the AI). Now, if x goes ahead and changes shape int...

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It's broken and very unfun. Either make it admin-only or remove it entirely - at least until it's up to scratch with the other 'terrible' gamemodes. (If we're gonna have terrible modes, at least keep them consistently terrible pls).

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I've accidentally opened the valve before owing to lag, flooding the room. It's really no biggie as long as nobody goes down there with an open flame. I've done far worse, like accidentally leaving the PA on 2. The most I got was asked why I did it, where I explained that it was an accident and that...

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there's always gonna be a horde of retards for the devs to pander to

typically people who're so lazy they'd rather their game played itself for them.

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the filing cabinet in the vault counts as a security console (and, as far as I could tell, it doesn't need ID).

Much fun was had that round.

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pretty sure either the sec or silicon policy covers being a shitlord to the AI and its borgs for following their laws. Yeah, it's called, "don't be a fucking retard and get in the way of the command staff with the ability to shut you down and then get mad when you get shut down, because you're...

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pretty sure either the sec or silicon policy covers being a shitlord to the AI and its borgs for following their laws.

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Never play silicon again. You are not security, you do not deal out a special brand of sec and hunt down and punish all the potential human harmers if they're fucking heads of staff. Sure, it doesn't say anything in your laws about ranks, but seriously? I'd put you on an intellicard and fucking dec...

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why is this even a thing?

why do you lot feel so strongly either way about this? holy shit, it doesn't actually hurt anyone. If you don't like seeing it when you're dead, turn ghost ears off or drink a cup of concrete and toughen the fuck up.

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On the old forums TBM made a thread explaining how to become a trialmin. I don't think a similar thread was made here, which I feel is needed to explain what's going on and how to have a chance to be trialed. honestly, the idea of it going through one person is absolutely terrible and we should pro...

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could just ahelp when there's an admin presence and be all 'hey man can you show me the ropes?'

asking questions is a magical thing.

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CreationPro wrote:Not a big fan of flashing myself. And where the hell do I get flashbangs beside robbing sec anyhow? (I, in the current situation, am a geneticist or a CMO.)

Doesn't flashpowder count?

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policies like this exist in a lot of places for no other reason than legality.

I'm convinced that the COMMUNITY doesn't give a flying fuck how old you are, but as a legal formality the administration is REQUIRED to apply age restrictions. This is hardly worthy of a thread.

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Because there isn't already several ways to counter an AI without hulk that are difficult AT BEST for an AI to control, right?

Hulks need to be non-human; they'd fall under the non-human clause just like slimes, lizardpeople, potato people, etc.

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Removing the hardsuit is a good tactic provided you can hide it without someone stealing it, alternatively, destroy gravity and fly around the station with your harness For bonus ninja points, colour your jumpsuit at the start, make your ID show as an ACTUAL JOB instead of some shitty custom title,...

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When Nar'sie and singuloth meet, they should create Singunarnar: Nar'sie that spins.

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>c4 into tcomms >bomb tcomms >follow pinpointers >dunk crew keep in mind that when I'm on the station I don't use my red hardsuit; instead I use my regular armor and SWAT helmet. People don't realise the SWAT helmet is actually space-worthy, and moving at regular speed you're nigh unstoppable.

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Pretty chill guy, doesn't get angry with me for being a heated pissmongler so that's always a plus.

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What about the fact that the HoS looted his shoes (presumably no-slips), likely to use to his own ends? That's shitcurity and should make you valid to anybody else who happens to notice you, the HoS, is using traitor items. hue. EDIT: That isn't to say that using traitor items in general shouldn't m...

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I don't see a problem with people ERPing. What I do see a problem with is people like Mugen being intentionally creepy all the time. This is about EXCESSIVE ERP. Doing it every round nonstop. Every round non-stop? Eh. If it's to the detriment of others - sure, slap them on the wrist, but if it's no...

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I don't see a problem with people ERPing.

What I do see a problem with is people like Mugen being intentionally creepy all the time.

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-snip- DO YOU EVEN REALIZE HOW MANY POLICIES WE'LL HAVE TO DO FOR A VAGUE LAWSET LIKE SAFEGUARD? Seriously. If you will bring up any other vague lawset we use - keep in mind that Asimov only has this many policies because it's the one most commonly used. Here are two random examples: If an assistan...

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Or get rid of Security Borgs and use Safeguard. Honestly the law set seems sound, and it would be more effective to have a lawset with minimal OOC rule sets than current Asimov. Or we could simply accept that Asimov is flawed and work with its flaws instead of trying to iron them out, but that's a ...

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As warden I'll overturn or reduce shitty sentences and have no qualms telling the HoS to eat a dong.

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I love using Asimov's laws to passively grief bad traitors and greytiders.

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I would prefer discussion of whether to keep Asimov as the default be another issue to raise; this thread is about what I can only describe as "coping with" Asimov as-is. It did come up when I tried to address the silicon policy a while ago and Numbers shitpiled it because he didn't like ...

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SergeantSkread wrote:I HATE PLAYING AGAINST ALL ANTAGS BECAUSE I HATE GETTING KILLED!!!!!!

~Tunderchief

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As a normal human crewman, nuke ops and murderbone traitors are tons of fun. Subtle traitors with plots and schemes can also be fun to bust. Lings in their current state aren't as much fun to deal with but they can still be tense if the ling plays them more 'lethal killer' and less 'griefing idiot'...

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RE: Clown/plasma fire issue, consider the following: The AI knows for certain that if it does NOT act, a human will be killed. It can see this, it can calculate this, it knows. 100%. Opening the door to let the human escape, however, while dangerous does not necessarily lead to the immediate harm of...

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So question as per Malk's statement. I am an AI and I see the Clown/Scientist/Whoever in a room filled with burning plasma, I had no hand in this event. On the other side of the door however are other Humans. Would the following two actions be deemed acceptable. - Refuse to open the door, I am not ...

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---------- And I think it provided a much more interesting and dynamic game when the interpretation of the AI's laws was left up to the AI's player, as long as they can expect to have to answer an admin bwoink with a logical argument how them diverging from the normal still fits with in their lawse...

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Here's a interesting conjecture, I'm problem wrong but... Law 1 does not explicitly state a cyborg MUST rush to help a human by its inaction clause, it says the Borg must take action if it sees a human being harmed. So if the Cyborg takes an action to help the human, such as running circles around ...

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To go back to Asimovian roots, this is how it's meant to work: If the robot can directly prevent harm from happening, it has to. It is obligated to. In doing so, however, it cannot knowingly harm others. 'Inaction' refers to bystander syndrome, basically. 'Traditionally', if the robot were to be in ...

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Killerz104 wrote:When the countdown timer is activated on a Malf AI round, the hate speech that AM gives in I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream should be played.

It should be given as a special malf button so they can use it if they want to.

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CreationPro wrote:I'm glad it all worked out in the end. Changeling rounds really can get confusing, and this thread means they are serving their purpose.

Haha, yeah. Thanks for getting back to me quickly, too.

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The warden was watching this on cameras before I turned up, chat logs will prove what was said on the radio Something along the lines of, it's one or the other, and given that you were next to the dead security officer, and the OTHER guy kept collapsing, I figured it was you Also, after hitting you...

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Your byond account: Kangaraptor Your character name: Kiara Elison Their character name: Ashlyn Northey Their byond account(optional, but useful if you can provide it): Dunno'. Server and time: Sybil, around... 12:15AM, GMT+10 (11:21 server time?) Logs and/or screenshots: Can't, they were too far bac...

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IMO AIs shouldn't bolt down secure tech storage just because there's an AI Upload board. First, those boards can be made at R&D after very brief research, and don't even require gold. Second, there are other boards in here. There's a reason secure tech storage is SECURE tech storage. All of tho...

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To the point where this entire Silicon policy can just be the defined lawset as it pretty much sums up what you have to do as a borg according to the rules far more than the actual ingame laws do. This little guide thing is: 80% "Follow your laws" 15% "No, that's NOT an exception, FO...

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It should also be written somewhere that if someone is violating space law, but does not cause human harm , gets arrested by a secborg and demands being released, they must be released, and not doing so is a violation of law 2. Meta stuff like that is exactly the problem with the policy as it curre...

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