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WarbossLincoln

I wouldn't be against lube getting a little bit of a nerf, enough to make it less infuriating to deal with outside of fights. But still strong enough to slip people out of airlocks and wreck people in fights. But noslips shouldn't be immune to lube, for the above reason. Traitor buys noslips, remove...

WarbossLincoln

Why would civilian heads of staff carry carbine-sized guns in the first place? Create new laser pistols, similar to the pulse pistol that ert gets, for self defense. I have 3 carbines IRL and I'm not a head of any staff. Here, I made Laser Pistol sprite. Totally original work do not steal. http://i...

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This needs to go, it's frying innocents left and right as people break into HOP/sec. Or when antags build electrified grilles in the middle of the hallway and watch the sparks, like last night. Don't get me wrong, building electrified grilles in the middle of the hall as an antag is neat, but not wh...

WarbossLincoln

Rebuttal to anti-zombie whining I think I was in that zombie round, it was fun. Made a round with like 8 people still alive more interesting. Also, gotta agree with Oldman, if you're dragging bodies away from genetics to burn them you need a good reason. Like they had traitor gear(not a bottle of w...

WarbossLincoln

I don't think telling the crew would mean anything. Like a week ago the HOP killed a traitor who left his PDA unlocked with enough points left to buy a holoparasite. He told command and common multiple times that he took it from a traitor and was going to give himself a holoparasite. They still lync...

WarbossLincoln

The HoS is within his rights when he removes the Warden's gloves, since they may titillate the warden into leaving his station due to their high value as a "combat patrol" item By that logic the HOS shouldn't have them either. HOS is supposed to spend most of his time directing sec and on...

WarbossLincoln

The way I see it: Player in hostile mob, haha no you gonna die Player in neutral mob, start shit get hit, otherwise we chill bro Player in friendly mob, same as above This is how I approach things, but apparently not everyone does. The other day as a monkey I deconstructed the detective's window to...

WarbossLincoln

Title says it. I've heard different things from different people. My example is a player that turns himself into a monkey in genetics. Are they immediately valid. I do this a fair bit on slow rounds for the fun of it. But every time an npc is obviously player controlled some asshole assumes they are...

WarbossLincoln

Here's the real question. Can a monkey leg sweep someone? I can't remember if they have glove slots or not. And if not, why not?

WarbossLincoln

Every round I play assistant my goal will be to watchdog botany. If they grow more than a handful of slip plants for le memes I'm going to flamethrower botany or something. Cause it's not hard to tell a shitter from a guy being cheeky. When there are 10 slip rice given to the clown, it's a meme. Whe...

WarbossLincoln

The problem is that people are hesitant to flat out murder crewmen for acting like assholes for fear of getting bwoinked. We need to make a concerted effort to murder every botanist that puts slip plants in the hallways. Sec officers should harmbaton them summarily for that shit. It got old the seco...

WarbossLincoln

When someone abuses something and people want it nerfed we really need to take a step back and think: Is the feature actually overpowered? Or is Urist McOP being annoying with it? If it's the latter, ask Urist to tone it down. If it's the former then think about nerfing it. It definitely is a little...

WarbossLincoln

Chemistry's machines can make pills, bottle, and pieces of gum. R&D can upgrade the machine to be able to make Bubble Tape. It can contain a much larger amount of chems, takes up 1 inventory slot, and when used will dispense 1 piece of gum with a proportional amount of chems. Maybe 1 piece of gu...

WarbossLincoln

'Force' every job to walk across the station to function well. Make toxins walk across the station to atmos. Make the secluded jobs need others to rely on. I seem to recall a long time ago you usually couldn't build your own chem dispenser in R&D with just the acid they started with, or it at l...

WarbossLincoln

Guys, the question was not "how do we stop people having fun the wrong way," it was "what makes this role fun, and how can we use those lessons to improve normal civillian play?" I already answered this further up. It's because those roles are new and unique. There's no experien...

WarbossLincoln

Yeh, the lizard got a little too :salt: and gibbed you You got a little too :salt: about the revolver and made an admin complaint Admin didn't get :salt: but still went a little overboard by spawning the revolver. I'm not saying the :salt: is unjustified and I agree the revolver was a little much. B...

WarbossLincoln

Returning Ban Requests might be ok if there is a time limit. Like if 24 hours have passed since it was created and it hasn't been decided then have a headmin just close it.

WarbossLincoln

Well on one hand you were a dick to him with slip strip bin. On the other, he was a dick back with the gibbing (I feel killing was fine, though). And maybe the admins were dicks with what was given to him as well as the permission. All in all everyone was dicks and maybe everyone can learn a lesson...

WarbossLincoln

Slipping someone: typical prank Slip Stripping: a little annoying, still a prank Slip Stripping of everything, including headset, and trashing someone FNR: should definitely make him valid Spawning the revolver was probably a little much. I would have given the mime a claymore and had a voice in the...

WarbossLincoln

Is this the guy who spams WGW IC all the time? I have noticed that happening a lot recently, like more than the occasional meming.

WarbossLincoln

How about we not return greytiding because "THAT OFFICER MIGHT BE AN ANTAG TRYING TO KILL ME"? Dude, that never stopped. They still grey tide all the damn time, antag sec or not. And rarely get banned for it. Like dragging a suicide body around so an officer will try to stun you, then sli...

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Malkevin wrote:>Being such a new fag you don't know of the days when every sec PDA had a fingerprint scanner.

lol, I'm newer than that. I don't remember that. I think I started playing a couple years ago, mostly NOX. Then quit and came back like 6 months ago or something, mostly on /tg/.

WarbossLincoln

Would be nice if there was expanded forensic investigation. Like being able to perform autopsies to get an idea of what killed someone, check their bodies for anyone else's prints/fibres or examine blood with a mass spectrometer (I did this once to catch a Changeling). I don't know how feasible thi...

WarbossLincoln

Zilenan91 wrote:So long as both of these Private Investigators still have a detective gun or some equivalent then I'd be fine with them. It'd be killing the role if the gun was removed.

Yeh, his gear would stay the same

WarbossLincoln

So I had this idea that came out of people talking about the issues with antag detectives, and detectives in general. The basis of the idea is to remove the job "Detective" and replace it with "Investigator" or "Private Eye". The big change would be one of sec policy an...

WarbossLincoln

I like to join sec as traitor and then kill sec to teach a valuable lesson in trusting people An admin actually enforced this the other day. I joined sec as an assistant, got loyalty implanted, and fully intended to be a normal sec officer. Then I got turned into a syndicate traitor with an uplink ...

WarbossLincoln

The last grenade I used was way back with oldchem and acid smoke was king. I was the CMO, I hid behind a potted plant with a chloral syringe gun. When the clown came by I shot him and drug him back to surgery. Put anesthetic on him and planted a signaler acid smoke grenade in him. Woke him up and sh...

WarbossLincoln

Seriously, I read shit like this: every HoS would be better off just stunning the dude, jacking his gun, ID, radio, and forensic scanner and telling him to fuck off since you're not allowed to trust him anymore. and wonder how the concept of "security must never be antag" got so burned in...

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Scott wrote:I agree with the idea of separating the Detective from Security entirely and giving it a different title, but only if the forensic scanner remains exclusive to the Detective.

I agree, if the HOS can just run in and take the spare scanner then the detective really does have nothing to do.

WarbossLincoln

Then he shouldn't have antag status! Either all of Security (barring HoS) can be a traitor or none of them can. Otherwise this is a inane inconsistency for the sake of someone wanting to play out their fantasies of being a rogue detective. This is my point. The detective shouldn't be part of securi...

WarbossLincoln

Here's an idea. One issue I've had with the gulag is that it doesn't benefit the station like it's concept implies. The idea is that you put a criminal to work to mine resources for the station. But how often do those resources ever actually get to someone to be used? I know the real intent is just ...

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Removing the recall from gang tools and have dominators recall the shuttle. Promotes earlier dom placement. Also some bonus influence from placing a dom should make things a lot more interesting. This is a good idea. Gang heads/lietenants recalling over and over without placing a dom is terrible. I...

WarbossLincoln

Not punishing past harm is a big thing that more AI players need to learn. Asimov is about preventing harm, not punishing murderers. That's what Paladin is for. Lets say a sec officer catches a murderer red handed and summarily executes him. Shitty AIs bolt down the brig AFTER the incident and screa...

WarbossLincoln

Making a character that ICly griefs people means they have no defense against other characters ICly lynching them. I mean I really can't say anything bad about this policy. Act like an antag, get treated like an antag. I think if someone starts flooding the halls with bluespace tomatoes anyone shou...

WarbossLincoln

Isn't death and violence in a game mode about death and violence more exciting than lines of people cuffed to chairs awaiting implants? Sec executing every single person they see that doesn't have an implant until the round ends while thematically appropriate isn't very fun. Right now they just arr...

WarbossLincoln

If AIs allow themselves to be subverted, they're not doing it right. Bolt the upload at roundstart, and if the HoS wants to change your laws after you've locked down Sec for harm, they'd better have a good reason ("It's Ian's birthday, I want to upload a law making him human"). I want to ...

WarbossLincoln

Most antags have permission to, the ability to, and often try to end the round or kill everyone, and in the process stop everyone from having fun or any sort of "quirky adventure". Dude, trying not to die in a metal death box with autistic clowns and lizards IS the "quirky adventure&...

WarbossLincoln

gonna copypaste what I said in the admincomplaint thread here: People here literally failing the Sally-Anne test . People in this game act on incomplete information. That's the nature of the game. Sirnat thought sec were being shit and trying to relentlessly pursue and arrest him and probably end u...

WarbossLincoln

If the clown or mime (especially the fucking mime, you dont even have the excuse of slapstick) tries slipping me they're going straight to the gulag. I think that's the definition of shitcurity. Unless you're chasing someone and the clown slips you this is just more reason for greys to hate reds. J...

WarbossLincoln

But in all seriousness, when people complain about getting perma'd while being non-antag, its always worthwhile to throw the book in the cell to enlighten them that items and crimes have value. I like to employ a three strike rule. If someone does moderate grey tiding 3 times, I perma them. And inv...

WarbossLincoln

Last I saw there weren't many minerals available to the gulag area. Last time I was there I had to breach out of the gulag area(which is full of monsters) just to fill a 500 point sentence.

WarbossLincoln

This is a horrible idea and you should feel horrible. Have you ever considered talking to the community before you implement these things? thats what this thread is for, my undershit memer I mean more like "Hey, I'm going to try X, is that a good idea or should I kill myself?" rather than...

WarbossLincoln

Even if you have someone in your department to yell for help to how do they contact security? Would they have to go find an officer to tell them that someone in their department was killed and drug off into maint? How would public facing jobs make station wide announcements. Like the chef requesting...

WarbossLincoln

Another thing that invalidates doctors is how easy it is for chemists to make a shitload of slap patches and pack the fridge with them. You basically don't need doctors for anything but surgery if the chemists are making patches.

WarbossLincoln

I had this idea bout a half hour ago reading the announcement post that sec borgs will be gone. Overall I like not having sec borgs by default. The test has gone pretty smoothly and the handful of antag rounds I've had have felt a little smoother. It's nice not having a valid-hunting, go anywhere, c...

WarbossLincoln

Overall the removal of secborgs has been pretty smooth. The only issue I've seen so far is that it's very hard for borgs to prevent human harm now when someone starts murderboning. You're basically useless outside of dragging bodies because every other way borgs have to prevent harm would cause harm...

WarbossLincoln

There's been a really annoying trend I've noticed in the past where people will get jacked up on meth and then running around dragging a corpse behind them while beating it so it looks like they're trying to murder someone. As soon as an officer goes after them they slip/stun the officer and rob hi...

WarbossLincoln

The golden rule of dealing with security is that how harshly they treat you is directly proportional to how annoying you are. Sec needs to just crack down on shitters really hard, and ignore the small stupid things. I was playing the warden the other day and I had to deal with officers bringing in t...

WarbossLincoln

Probably for the best. For the most part I go to For No Reason, especially Ban Requests, for something funny to read at work. It's like the Jailhouse Report for space autists. I DINDU NUFFIN! The clown threw a pie at me so I stabbed him to death, why you ban me?

WarbossLincoln

I like space law as it is now, a guideline that's not a server ruleset. I think we could even improve the disclaimer at the top. Maybe big bold all caps that says "SPACE LAW IS NOT A SUBSTITUTE FOR COMMON SENSE". It's a difficult problem I know. You don't want shitsec so you have to have r...

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