/tg/Station 13

Tokiko2

The numbers in a monkey's name should do a special thing.

Monkeys like #1, #666 or #1000 should have special sprites or names or whatever.

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What's your point You won't accomplish anything by spending weeks coding a perfect multi-z engine that works for explosions and all that, it's just a waste of time, just throw in some tile shit and you're good to go This game isn't some AAA project, you make a cool feature with the intent to build ...

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Remove the supermatter and replace it with a giant RTG array. Advantages: Engineers no longer need to stay locked up in their department and can actually fix and build stuff. Engineers don't need to learn atmos. Who the hell likes atmos? Just follow goons example and remove it completely. The RTG as...

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This map is going to be called The NT Parrot and that's final. On a more serious note, you should take a look at one of bays older multi-z maps, the Luna. It has/had a lot of fans. Granted, it's not neccesarily a good layout for tg but it's still worth looking at to get some inspiration on how to st...

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Do you actually have people working on the map or not? I thought you had a lot of volunteers?

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I'm glad you're working on this again Remie. Are those hole turfs expensive on the processing? I have somewhere between 10.000-100.000 hole turfs on my map, will that work?

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A great way to start with the multi-z level things would be rewriting the maploader so people can actually load a multi-z test map easily.

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lumipharon wrote:I can do 'high quality mapping', but how does a multi z-level map function in term of power/disposals/etc?

You'll have to write new things to handle those.

Tokiko2

Multi z level maps are great. Go for it if you think you can make players accept that.

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It would probably be worth compiling a list of things that are hardcoded but should actually be configurable for each map. The blob size thing and the areas shielded from radstorms are just a few examples.

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It's silly idea to ban all supermatter suicides by default. When the engine is not set up or there are people without a radsuit then banning for it is fine because it can kill other engineers or explode the engine if nobody bothers fixing it. When stuff is set up though, it doesn't affect anything a...

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In dreammaker, uncheck everything in _maps except for runtimestation.dm and compile.

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If you are an admin and want to punish someone, give them a cursed heart. A cursed heart requires the owner to pump it manually or they die of bloodloss.

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You should host a 5-10 player private server with your friends and play a bunch of serious rounds on it and you'll immediatly understand why /tg/ does not have RP and why it's not going to have RP in the forseeable future. i've played many rounds of small private games and the RP was actually fun a...

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You should host a 5-10 player private server with your friends and play a bunch of serious rounds on it and you'll immediatly understand why /tg/ does not have RP and why it's not going to have RP in the forseeable future.

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I've managed to rewrite it. In case anyone is interested and wants some pointers: code/datums/map_config.dm code/controllers/subsystem/mapping.dm code/_DEFINES/maps.dm The _map .dm files and the .json files are also involved. map_config.dm reads and and converts the configs and mapping.dm then actua...

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Set the cold and hot loop variables correctly, it should rotate them correctly once the map is loaded.

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Ask Cyberboss, he did the new map loading. How do I do that? Where, how? I've dug around in the code a bit and found the mapping subsystem that uses the dmm_suite.dm maploading thing which I assume seems to be what I want. Or not? There also seem to random empty z levels(which I assume are the rand...

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Is there any easy way to get tgcode to load specific maps for each z level? I'm trying to have a small map stretching across 5 zlevels and one z level for adminstuff. No lavaland or random empty space. How would I go about doing this? What files need changing? Or should I just go with baycode instead?

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What if you want to play a monkey person and just use a tail? Do you count as a cat or not?

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Are you aware that pulling does pretty much the exact same thing except it also allows the pulled person to use their hands?

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Guys, I hate to be "that guy" but if you're going to measure which server "RP's more" you're gonna have to define your terms. How are you quantifying roleplay? not acting like a retard who only plays to click those sprites into horizontal Then yes most people, in both servers, r...

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>People who syphon plasma gas instead of using contaminated mode filters ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh The contamina...

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PKPenguin321 wrote:Fun fact, downstreams are the sole reason we can't unify code and policy properly and basically they ruin everything

What are configs?

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On a more serious note: Based on observing a lot of engineering rounds, I'd honestly suggest removing the explosion delamination and replacing it with something that does something else. Maybe the thing sawrge suggested in a different thread with the anomalies. All it does is explode atmos and engin...

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This is an amazing feature. I hope you manage to finish this, I'd love to branch off /tg/code with multiple z-levels for my own silly project.

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You make a good point. It's time to nerf solars or remove them. Just placing some wires shouldn't be enough to power the entire station.

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What this map needs right now are admins that are actually willing to stop the massive IC in OOC spam and the roundstart griefing where people kill and break everything and then complain that the map "plays awful". Any map is going to "play awful" if players do this.

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You could break the ebow apart into 2 different items:

One being a stealthy, ranged and damaging gun/bow and the other one being a small melee weapon capable of stunning others.

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New minor traitor: Paparazzi Starts with a camera and a very reduced uplink. Their goal is to take embarassing pictures of important station people. They can take unlimited pictures, but may only keep 3 pictures saved in their special camera. Each picture is graded. You get a better photo grade if t...

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I have a suggestion: Make Freon not cool down other gases, just freeze turfs, objects and people without cold protection. Also make Freon not dissipate. You'd both buff Freon as an environmental hazard to unprotected people but you'd also make it much easier to remove and not cause a huge atmos mess...

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If making airpump singletanks is apparently too hard for a traitor, then perhaps they shouldn't be able to explode the station in the first place? Explosions are quite disruptive. They depressurize a lot of areas which make them deadly for anyone without a spacesuit and usually tend to end the round...

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Consider taking a look at some of the baystation multi z-level maps before you guys start mapping.

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What if the syndie bombs didn't cause breaches? You'd still end up destroying machinery, walls and crewmembers but you'd no longer make departments completely inaccessible to anyone without a spacesuit.

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You should be really careful with the ever expanding creep terrain idea. I'm not a huge fan of these mechanics because I found that they usually end up falling into 2 categories: Either they are harmless and easily dealt with or they are world destroying monsters that can't be stopped once they pass...

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Would be great if ghosts had some way to check atmos stats on tiles. So you can see how/why engineering is breaking the engine again or how cold that freon filled holodeck really is.

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Screenshot from today. I dare you to figure out what exactly happened here.

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Any chance of redoing the faces too? I can't be the only one that finds the current faces downright terrifying, right? They look more like crude haniwa dolls or redeads from zelda than actual humans.

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CPTANT wrote:
starmute wrote:I miss the singularity being the only engine. However the people have spoken.

My biggest issue with the SM is it announces how close it is to blowing up thus ruining traitor ideas with the engine.

I think the instability warning should be on the engineering channel.

That's an excellent idea.

Tokiko2

SM in its current state is unwhelming power production wise and entirely too safe stability wise. It should have much better power production capabilities while also having a much greater chance of catastrophe. The SM adds complexity and the ability for scaling production, but its just so stable ri...

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What if it was a ship that has landed on the surface instead of a base? Kind of like Metroid: Zero Mission's final area. I feel that might meet the space lovers in the middle without actually changing much. Baystation had several ship maps and they've still been considered a Space Station codebase. ...

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Could we have something more interesting on supermatter overload than explosion or singulo? What if it exploded sending system-wide EMP, instantly draining all the power from apcs, batteries and everything. Maybe even bolting all the airlocks down. Spooky Station 13. That's a really good idea actua...

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I've adressed the sabotage difficulty here: https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/pull/24785

The engine is now guaranteed to choke on 100% plasma setups, and high CO2 ones will cause a really hard to fix chain reaction that irridiates, zaps, heats and then explodes violently.

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If you wanna nerf power generation, make the collectors based off volume/pressure instead of moles. As for oxygen being too good, I agree. In fact, I was going to recode all the gas interactions to reblance everything and add other modifiers than just power, like gases that cause the shard to emit m...

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Damn it was fun to come up with these. New traitor items Geneticist only: DNA degrader. Look like a medical scanner, but when used it emits a DNA degrading pulse at anyone nearby that turns them clumsy(including the geneticist). Assistant only: Untrustworthy Security 20 TC kit that includes all roun...

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I think that it would be nice to order building materials like metal, plasteel, titanium and glass. Just as an alternative to cargo/minining because they don't always deliver when you need it.

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I can't say for sure what went wrong, but I assume that you forgot to fill up the plasma tanks before inserting them. That seems to produce around 120,000W if you use the setup on the wiki which is close to your number. Fully filling them results in 400,000W output.

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Can someone sum up how this engine works, as in what creates power v. what keeps it stable? The others seemed pretty straightforward. Sing = Giant ball of radiation, bigger ball = more rads. Tesla = shocks coils for power, more balls = more shocking. SM = Generates rads. More emitters might make mo...

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I kind of liked the explosion better. It felt satisfying in that it was a single, short but massive blast that annihilated a large chunk of the station when the counter hit 100.

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Quick guide for the supermatter on box and meta: The "boring setup". This is a very basic, step by step guide to setting up the supermatter engine. Only use this if you have no idea what you are doing. NOTE: This guide uses metastation engine as example, but if you rotate it, it applies to...

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