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You've answered all of my questions for now. Based on the good faith interactions I've seen with this appeal, the recognition of issues previously had, and the conversation I had with the affected player. Broly filled me in on how respectful you were, and how the two of you came to an amicable concl...

I've been reviewing this appeal, and there are a few points I feel necessary to discuss, so there's no ill-will intended in asking you to elaborate here. One of the major things with this ban was the realization that It was necessary for me to step away from the game as a whole While you have taken ...

Thanks to Timber for posting the logs in such a concise manner. I will admit some fault for part of this ticket, and any "curtness" you experienced during it. I tend to get in the mindset where I resolve tickets quickly (especially at roundend where delaying for longer than necessary is an...

Imagine unironically being upset at catposting

There are a few elements of this appeal I greatly appreciate, including the full honesty & transparency, as well as admitting your faults and knowing why we don't allow bigoted speech on the servers. I've looked over your case and appeal and I'm deciding to lift the permaban on your account, as ...

How could an admin do this they are evil and awful and twisted and fucked up. How DARE they make me look at cat video

Man, if only these great headmin candidates could have a planned debate day next Saturday (2023/02/25 10:00 PM (UTC)) so they could all have a way to get their opinion across to a wider voterbase. If only if we had someone to host this amazing idea. Well who knows, maybe if we're all lucky and wish...

Man, if only these great headmin candidates could have a planned debate day next Saturday (2023/02/25 10:00 PM (UTC)) so they could all have a way to get their opinion across to a wider voterbase.

I spent more time creating my character in CODE VEIN than I did playing it. The customisation levels are off the charts. Possibly for the best, CODE VEIN struggles with janky combat and really poor map design. The story, visuals, and general atmosphere the game provides is good though. I'm glad it'...

They're so cute together, they even share the same pfp omg
valentines day is magical

Quick learner, has definitely used their trial period to improve.

On the shuttle, people tend to just turn into a frothing wave of dumbasses, even on MRP you see people crawling under each other being shits. I think trying to force your way into the shuttle bridge 'FNR' should be an equivalent to forcing your way into the station bridge 'FNR', since you can very l...

Water Vapour is also used in a few applications for atmos funny gas! You can make it with a very dirty plasma/o2 burn, and then use it with an electrolyzer to make hydrogen and oxygen! Hydrogen can then make funny things like a few machine upgrades and an axe.

I mean they kinda look like little eyes but they're not that creepy, what does it taste like? How do you eat them? I could wiki this myself but I don't want to. I never ate the fruits, I don't think they're fit for eating. You can get juice and soda made out of it, which are fucking delicious. Also...

Riggle is one of the most hardworking and dedicated people I've seen, they're a fantastic admin AND event runner, and we wouldn't have Toolbox 2022+1 without them. They work hard, they're a great inspiration, and they always keep on the grind to better the community despite the difficulties that com...

MRP can be a really good way to produce more interaction. Though, I tend to find that some players read the MRP rules as "wordlessly do your job the entire shift without talking to people and avoid all conflict." Sometimes good IC reasoning for little squabbles and scuffles makes a round f...

I mean they kinda look like little eyes but they're not that creepy, what does it taste like? How do you eat them? I could wiki this myself but I don't want to.

Unbanned, welcome back.

Unbanned, welcome back.

JupiterJaeden wrote: ↑Sat Jan 21, 2023 3:38 am That is a factual description of what happened. What severity are you going to apply on it though?

Minor?

How does this sound:
"During a round where firelocks were closing on their own accord due to a code error, JupiterJaeden, the HOS at the time, chose to participate in a mass suicide."
Do you think that's fair?

Okay, sure. One thing I do want to note though is that I never used the fact that there were a bunch of people doing IC in OOC as a justification, since you are correct, that is not a justification. My justification was instead that the scope of what I discussed in OOC was very limited, and only us...

How does this sound, is that fair?
"During a round where firelocks were closing on their own accord due to a code error, t3hsurge made a joke about a mass suicide, and would later join in when players started to take the joke seriously."

That seems more fair to me. Thanks Chesh, and thanks for all this thankless work you do. This is my first time combing logs and it's not an enviable task to be sure. I'm not here to ban people having fun, I'm just trying to make the game more enjoyable for everyone, thanks for being understanding. ...

Alright let's crack open the issue that I believe is most pressing. 1. Sabotaging the Round. You've made some good points, and I wish we had time to speak within a ticket during the round if you had responded to me. I'm comfortable with removing this from the note. 2. IC in OOC. In your case, you've...

None of that's really IC in OOC. Alright, I'll back down on the point when looking at the context of events you've provided. Starting a mass suicide, by mere suggestion, is not a violation of any rules. This however. I'm sticking by this not being alright, I think that mass-suiciding because of an ...

A minor addition - I don't think "it's just a prank" applies if you're going to actually do it. Suggesting a mass suicide isn't a joke if it's actually done, then it's just doing it.

I didn't create a mass suicide in front of the hopline, I made a joke about it, it happened, and I joined the pile. You've given so much justification for your actions, but it's all so nebulous. What rule did I break? You can't seriously lean on IC/OOC in a broken round. There is plenty of preceden...

As an addition to my last post. If you want to give me more context, this is a good place to do so.

I didn't engage in any more or less ICK OCK than the rest of the server did. Mob mentality isn't an excuse for breaking the rules. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ We spawned into the map being broken and everyone was...

Another example where Vekter just completely dismisses the issue:

I'll get to what you said later but for the first third of your argument:

I am not Vekter
I do not control Vekter
If you think Vekter made a mistake please handle that with Vekter

t3hSurge wrote: ↑Fri Jan 20, 2023 11:36 pm Can I piggyback? I got essentially the same ban.

Please make your own thread

Logs taken from https://tgstation13.org/parsed-logs/manuel/data/logs/2023/01/20/round-198593/ I'm going to look at this from a few angles, based on my own observations and on what I believe could be a more suitable, amenable note. I'll try to keep things short and avoid text walls. Firstly, discussi...

I'll be posting an in-depth response in a while.

https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=26764&p=566769 We have a precedent for this kind of behavior, and as the headmin at the time said "Mob mentality does not excuse breaking the rules". I'm not Vekter, I don't control what he says, I just came onto the server to see ...

There's literally no reason not to yell "AI SEC KILLING ME" when you're being arrested as a human, protesting an arrest probably isn't worth a validing but lying about sec killing you? Maybe.

Imagine unironically defending this guy

The north star is very likely not happening, everything I need to do to get the map optimized is not what I want to map and enjoy designing, and the idea of needing to redo the entire thing is just agonizing after I have a fully finished map at my fingertips.

sad to see this happen, although i gotta say that the original map was very well done and i'm excited to see on how it's gonna turn out to be since it's not being given up on, very inspiring :] The issue is just performance, there's not much I'd like to change in the map if I wasn't forced to. I've...

What issues did it have now that it didn't have back on Starbloom anyway? TGstation has a higher pop, worse maptick, and more things goin on. I've had four tests, with the final one confirming the map cannot be run in it's current state due to performance issues for all players. I don't have the ma...

>Station mapper introduces new map >Everyone hates it for no reason and mapper is bullied off the platform A tale as old as time. Player plays a map for the first time, doesn't know where something is, gets angry at their mental inability to open a linked forum thread and look at the provided map, ...

Considering it is closed on the Github and I never got around to asking like I intended when you first posted this... Are there intended server populations for this map? Low pop, most functional pop, etc. The original intention was highpop, but considering the pending redesign, I'm unsure. It will ...

TheSmallBlue wrote: ↑Wed Dec 28, 2022 2:48 am north starers... we lost... (temporarily)

Losing is just a prelude to winning

Here's the rundown on why I'm closing down the PR and reconsidering options. The North Star meets and far exceeds my standards for map quality, but the map does simply not run on Byond. It's too massively large for TGcode and parallax, and after recent tests I believe it won't be fun for me or other...

The PR is back open, and I'm excited to do more tests after the holidays! Thank you to Lemon for the parallax fixes!!!
https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/pull/71731

Played another low pop round earlier, rolled traitor - decided to NOT harm anyone and just concentrate on stealing shit, killing pets etc.... Raided the brig and lo and behold what do I find? A dead, stripped Warden in the locker all battered and bruised. Bizarrely nobody was hurling abuse at whoev...

I hate this kind of toxicity, genuinely the worst the worst part of the game. Why are you being a dick to someone trying to make the round interesting following all the rules?

Staying the course with progress reports: not much to say at the moment, map is not dead (not by a long shot!) and it's still my full intention to get it into rotation. Been doing some minor edits here and there but so far I'm relatively satisfied with the map's general quality. Any issues that stil...

Also I don't wanna be a little hater and I might be alone on this but boy do I not like the shuttle walls, they're kiiinda ugly, specially when compared to the normal shuttle's titanium walls They look kind of wonky in the editor, once the smoothing is in and they've got the pod textures, they're h...

I love all the cool things you guys are thinking about doing on the map, really exciting!

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