/tg/Station 13

Gib wiznerd pl0x

hell, maybe if we had enough of these megaproject style things with different risks and rewards it could be part of the captain's job to decide what the crew will be focusing on for that particular shift Neat idea. It would be amusing if each department had atleast one megaproject which they would ...

The 'hadron collider' idea is honestly the best. It kills two greyshirts with one stone. 1) Engineers need validation for the 235834598kW of power they can generate 2) R&D doesn't need any outside help for anything except minerals R&D still needs a general overhaul, but this would be a great...

I feel we're throwing our heads into the wall here.
It seems clearly obvious that ops have way too much shit to play with at lowpop, where as it's fine/they get fucked on high pop.

The gun change gave ops a flat 50tc boost, which only increased this problem.

Most of the problems with the AI role aren't because of the laws and abilities it has, though? Even though that yes, the game has been designed and balanced around the mere existence of an AI and the assumption that it pays attention and is pretty much validhunter extreme just like everything else....

The gun price adjustment, plus giving the ops 50 more tc BY DEFAULT, on top of war mode options, has proven to be a mistake, I suspect.

Why would he even be ahelping people going into sec?
That's an IC crime at most, even if you break into the armoury (admittedly a severe one).

In the past when I've designed autism ships, I've setup atmos pipes that would hook up to box station and the derelict, to be able to pump gas in or out of the ship - essentially toppin up on air when needed. It would be pretty enertaining if shipstation 13 had something earlier, so after hull breac...

I was one of the ops, we still got a major victory. Sure, I got beaten to a bloody pulp by a possessed nuke, but we still gut muh green text, and basically all the crew were dead. Literally all this changed was denying us from going back to syndie base and gloating. Nothing worth complaining about -...

Amnestik's suggest is more practical - being able to avoid the tell simply by jumping to the player then tracking manually would be dumb.
Being able to tell if the AI (or someone on a sec console) is looking through a certain camera at all is much more straight forwards.

One time I had a combat shotty filled with meteor shot. Blew a demon straight down the corridor.

Pop ups are fucking cancer, and should be removed where ever possible.

As far as I have always maintained, and as far as I understand of Orange, the intention of this experiment was never to remove the AI from the server. It's to remove it from the server temporarily, to highlight just how much of an effect it has on the round, and how severely it cockblocks antags. If...

Protect station is terrible though.
One guy needs to break a window and suddenly beep boop validsalad.

It's easier (and more subtle) to take down a satallite AI though? If you try to take down the old location AI, it's easy for the crew to stop you.

It's really only 'easier' if it's to take down a rogue AI, as the crew has ease of access.

I'm not saying every admin has the same opinion, but I've argued this in threads and that's consistantly what I've been told by the admins that have responded, which is such a shitty, gaming attitude to take. Well geez maybe we should open a policy discussion on that instead of, y'know, removing th...

I'm not saying every admin has the same opinion, but I've argued this in threads and that's consistantly what I've been told by the admins that have responded, which is such a shitty, gaming attitude to take.

What kind of shitty hop doesn't give gateway access?

Also if you lack the basic game knowledge to hack a door, it's a pretty good bet you are going to die like a fucking pleb in the gateway anyway.

I have literally argued that with the admins, and have been told I am wrong an AI's CAN AND SHOULD work against ANY AND ALL antags, regardless of actual harm done. Their excuse being 'antags cause harm'. So if the AI sees a clown with a synie balloon it is perfectly ok to bolt it down and call sec t...

If only you could like... get more access, or hack the airlock to the gate way, or RCD it.

Or just like, pda/ask on radio for help?

If there is ACTUALLY no way to get out/call for help (ie: locked in a windowless room with no headset/unconscious due to n2o etc, then you can ahelp that assuming it was a non anag that did it.

I'm not talking about you. I'm talking about what Cheri thinks, who has the power to stop the whole pr on his own opinion.
According to oldman, cheri doesn't want stunpapers in any form.

But that's not the issue most of the time.

The issue is the lawset OBLIGATES the AI to cockblock antags as hard as possible, even if they've commited no harm or have any intention to do so. This is a viewpoint that is carried by admins and headmins alike when I've brought it up.

If stun paper got removed how the fuck would the cult be expected to convert anyone ever?

So what you're saying is... if you trespass as a mime you might actually have some repercussions?

If admins are dunking rp gangs for trying to shake down the chemist for bathsalts or something, that's pretty stink yo.

Yeah all the tools for this already exist on station. All you need are some non shitlers to rp with and you're sweet.

4 ticks is not a long time to get someone's headset off after cuffing them (and I presume impossible if they have a helmet. Why nerf the imbue rune? All that does is make prep work more tedious. Also I would strongly reccomend against taking extra long to make a nar'sie rune. if there's actual oppos...

the guy on it can still shoot/tase/flashbang your dumb nigger ass.

Thanks for seeing the future. Now we can see it play out over the next week like adults and actually see first hand if you're right or wrong. All this talk of 'hurr assblasted minority forcing a change' is hugely ironic considering how assblasted some of THOSE people are sounding over a temporary ch...

>calls people 'you idiots' for making a generalising statement

kek

Unless synth flesh has changed since I last abused it as chef (which admittedly might have been before goofchem, can't remember), it's super easy to mass produce.
Either way wouldn't be bad.

As a bonus, it should also be able to other types of meat, including human. Nothing like recycling!

>makes the player for most purposes unstunnable
>can run people down and stun them while the dude on top guns them down
>requires a round start publicly accessible item to do

If it was like, an emagged mule or something, maybe, but even without damage it's still pretty bullshit.

Just because we're ticking along with a large playerbase doesn't mean things are great, or that things can be better. It's like politics in america - things have been going for 200 years but everyone has shat on the ideas it started with and the only reason why people still fight and bitch is becaus...

It is honestly super bullshit.

It's a 100% optional ghost role. Rather then spectating round start in the hopes of free validsalad as a snowop, I (believe) the intention was more 'oh look, some nerds are fighting through the dungeon, time to spawn in as snowops and try assfuck them in the mouth pussy'. Not what it currently is 'l...

The captain can't fly around the map as an all seeing eye and stealth bolt doors on you. The AI can do this, is obliged to stop antags (see: My arguments that Asimov shouldn't care about confirmed antags unless they actually cause/show intent to cause harm, and I get told by admins/headmins that thi...

Death will never be "meaningful" in a video game that resets every half hour (or even 2 hours). Having a large portion of the players sitting out just puts pressure on people to end the round. If you don't like ghost roles you don't have to accept the prompt for them. Why would I not acce...

Defibs aren't the same as they were when you could patch corpses, or when the timer was twice as long or some shit. But it's still an extremely powerful, if situational alternative to cloning. Before THREE defibs got added to medbay, for all practical purposes there was one cloner that was used to r...

As others have said, defibs are way more shit than cloners.
Also being able to upgrade cloners is also shit - autocloners are serious cockblocker9000's.

For that matter, a lot of machines that can be upgraded, that were never designed to be upgraded, are made shit because upgrades make them OP.

Balanced~

Which is why I hate every time people suggest a new way to get back into the round. Respawning, in whatever form removes any weight that dying has.

^ When I first started playing I died more rounds then I survived. Most rounds for that matter ended with most of the crew dead one way or another. Today, 90% of the time when the shuttle leaves, almost all the crew are alive and well onboard. There was plenty of bullshit deaths, but that just made ...

Its not theory when people like mehki and I can do it routinely.

And that's not blowing my own trumpet either - R&D is just mechanically very simple and straight forwards. But anyway, this is somewhat off topic.

borgs are fine (or atleast not as shit) since they can't remotely bolt doors/see you as soon as someone calls for help etc.
And unlike emp's, it's much easier and more reasonable to get a flash, and doesn't rely on like 1 antag specific item.

Paranoia doesn't work as game design if you never felt like you had a chance to come out on top. If you're just sitting there talking to people or doing your job and then beep boop you're dead that doesn't promote paranoia, that just means that people will just not play that job, or call the shuttl...

>real life

No, it requires 1 competent guy, doesn't even need science access. Basic research takes 5 minutes or so, which lets you upgrade the ore machine to tier 3. You can then mine your self, again for 5 minutes or less (only need like, 2-3 of each ore), multiply it all by 3 because goof, then you can finis...

disablers and stam damage in general is complete cancer. It takes so fucking long to wear off, that even if you recover from a stun you're still utterly fucked unless you have a gun of your own, as you move slower then walk speed for what seems forever. Atleast with stuns if they're not able to succ...

You call ERT when the station has gone to shit and what ever little crew is remaining are incapable of fighting back OR calling the shuttle (due to no ID or recalls etc). Deathsquad is for when the station is has been reduced to a colony of xenos and 2 guys hiding in lockers/the badmins have facerol...

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