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CDranzer

Gonna have to defend shadowflame on this one, I have seen people show remorse after chaotic murderboning. Not always, but sometimes.

CDranzer

I think we need to draw a distinction between complex medical and slow medical. You can have an intricate skeletal system and then have bone healing juice that repairs you from head to toe. You can also have elaborate surgeries for healing seven brute damage. I think a complex system of health is go...

CDranzer

I don't agree with merging doctor and chemist because I don't agree that chemist is primarily a medical job - I think chemistry is a science job that doctors have a crippling dependence on. It's similar, but it's not quite the same thing. I'd rather see chem split into Science:Chemist and Medical:Ph...

CDranzer

I may have used the word "dejected" but I can't remember

CDranzer

I had to emote a sad face because I couldn't help the brain-damaged miner I was tasked with saving through surgery a while back.

CDranzer

>Idle observing on Bagil >New match, queue up to observe >Alt tab to look for good music >Match starts in background >Hear some weird crackling radio noise I've never heard before >Tab back >You are Jason Drake >You are the Cook >You are the Traitor >I accidentally queued up unprepared into my first...

CDranzer

See this is why you shouldn't ban him because then he goes and starts writing up shit like this But I mean yeah grief is born of boredom but what the hell is the solution besides "make the game more interesting"? Like I don't disagree with what you're saying but that's mainly because I'm n...

CDranzer

Medical Doctor is currently one of the least interesting and least useful jobs on the station. Your department is so public that seeing somebody in a restricted area is barely acknowledged, let alone perceived as suspicious. The bread and butter of your job consists of using medicine you didn't make...

CDranzer

Okay, see, the more I think about it, the less I hate stasis beds. I mean I never really hated them as they were, I just hated them as a replacement for sleepers, even though I could begrudgingly accept that sleepers were kind of dull from a gameplay standpoint. I keep coming back to why the job of ...

CDranzer

This thread feels like it has since veered far of the topic of stasis beds. I'm tempted to make a new topic on the state of medical and antags and department co-dependency.

CDranzer

See I'm being dead serious though

I think if the coderbus does remove cloning and cryo they're going to be too stubborn to revert it but also things will get so bad that they won't be able to ignore the problems of medbay anymore

They'll be forced to come up with innovative solutions

CDranzer

Cobby wrote:
CDranzer wrote: So when are we going to remove cryo and cloning orange man, come on, I want to see how deep this retarded design rabbit hole goes
*laughs menacingly*

You think I'm kidding? Do it. I fucking dare you.

CDranzer

The policy literally already exists. Its already being enforced. The apocalypse has not happened. Is it actually in the rules though? Last I checked it isn't officially stated, it's just one of those things that people sort of take for granted like lynching for daniel. Since when does every policy ...

CDranzer

cedarbridge wrote:
CDranzer wrote:But on the upside cryo is getting used a lot more
Which part of this is the upside?

They're very nice looking tubes and it'd be a shame to see that spritework go to waste

CDranzer

cedarbridge wrote:The policy literally already exists. Its already being enforced. The apocalypse has not happened.

Is it actually in the rules though? Last I checked it isn't officially stated, it's just one of those things that people sort of take for granted like lynching for daniel.

CDranzer

It's been a couple of weeks Stasis beds are very rarely used Chemists are still blowing up their meth labs Supplies are getting raided with increasing frequency But on the upside cryo is getting used a lot more So when are we going to remove cryo and cloning orange man, come on, I want to see how de...

CDranzer

Okay, firstly, if you really want to remove antag rolling just make all antag roles midround so people don't have an easy way of knowing if they're going to be safe to gib themselves in the HoP line or not. I feel like there was some project or attempt at it at some point? But I don't keep up to spe...

CDranzer

WarbossLincoln wrote:It doesn't add depth to silicons to get into an argument with the crew when you bolt down surgery while someone dies of appendicitis. It just makes people hate silicons more.

Isn't tension as a result of problematic law interpretations literally the entire point of having asimov based silicons

CDranzer

So I've managed to find a solution to this: Every time I want to be a doctor I just go play mediborg instead because they're better equipped in pretty much every way. Infinite basic chems, a complete surgery set, all access, built in medical HUD, high powered flashlight, complete environmental immu...

CDranzer

So I've managed to find a solution to this: Every time I want to be a doctor I just go play mediborg instead because they're better equipped in pretty much every way. Infinite basic chems, a complete surgery set, all access, built in medical HUD, high powered flashlight, complete environmental immun...

CDranzer

I've gotten killed from awassdsasdwad on more than one occasion, I'd rather not help antags identify opportunities to make it happen again

CDranzer

I think people are failing to comprehend the core of Shadowflame's complaint, including Shadowflame himself. The problem is not that "OOC in IC" isn't well defined. It is. It's really clearly defined. It's a simple term with simple components. The problem is that the line between OOC and I...

CDranzer

I mean okay yeah you can solve problems if you have the right tools and sometimes the tools aren't exactly hard to get but I feel like there's this sort of extreme hyperbole I see in these types of discussions where people think that just because a thing can happen that means it will always happen 1...

CDranzer

Shadowflame909 wrote:Access can get dunked on honestly. Doesn't even matter anymore

If you were to give everybody all access by default I guarantee everything would go to shit at an alarming pace.

CDranzer

Well, I guess we sorta agree. I don't want that PR because I feel like it lied on that whole Fireman carry situation, and I would greatly prefer a version of it. Even without the fireman carry, where an item didn't give you an advantage over everyone else. That was pretty short-sighted. You make a ...

CDranzer

If you don't agree to that. Why should you make it so that having a Rollerbed will make people able to drag bodies at full speed. Yeah, all the antags that need to kill people and get away, which is basically all of them. Will surely not take notice of this scarce way to do something fast. Good poi...

CDranzer

edit: PR - https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/pull/43063 Why the fuck isn't this a thing right now I am legitimately fucking mad That PR is shit because it's compromise: Waiting the same amount of time it takes to break out of cuffs to grab someone without a slowdown. Has made that compromise p...

CDranzer

imsxz wrote:edit: PR - https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/pull/43063

Why the fuck isn't this a thing right now I am legitimately fucking mad

CDranzer

All antags should be side antags and the entire point is just constant increasing severity of antags until the station is either abandoned or destroyed change my mind

CDranzer

c) Wires exist only to be sabotaged. There's nothing interesting engineers can do with wires themselves except repair problems. This makes wires boring, uninteractive, and frankly unnecessary. I'm gonna have to pick on you for this one. There's a ton of stuff in SS13 that only really exists so that...

CDranzer

triage, surgery and diagnostics Well, "Triage" is kind of pointless when you dump somebody in a sleeper and kick them the fuck out. They get treated in an instant, so there's no real management of time and resources. That, I'm happy to concede. Diagnostics is kind of a non-issue anyway, b...

CDranzer

triage, surgery and diagnostics Fuck, this got me thinking. Because okay, how does the removal of sleepers help this? Like, if I'm being generous and pretending I agree with the PR, how does it help move us towards these goals? More specifically, how do sleepers impede these goals? Well, "Tria...

CDranzer

Excess Power -> More Money For Cargo Somehow?

CDranzer

Murderboning should absolutely be allowed, it just shouldn't be possible.

oranges wrote:don't worry code nerfs will deal with murderbone.

this but unironically

CDranzer

Okay, Oranges, I have a question, since I've seen you defending this PR more than anybody else and you seem to have an interest in medical being improved. What, in your eyes, does a good Doctor role look like? And when I say Doctor, I mean Doctor. Not Chemist, not Geneticist, not Virology, not Medba...

CDranzer

Kryson wrote:It only takes like 15min for a competent chemist to make decent amount styptic, sulfa, synthflesh, atropine, calomel and perfluoro.

Chemists, being well known for their high levels of competence and strong desires to develop a broad range of helpful medicines for the crew.

CDranzer

I'm still trying to figure out how this is supposed to make being a doctor more complex or interesting or nuanced or whatever the fuck. I guess you have to manage your inventory a bit more? I can appreciate that much. But the dependence on limited supplies and chemistry still bothers me, and I think...

CDranzer

I get removing sleepers
I get adding stasis beds
What I don't get is how those two changes somehow made it into the same PR as if one is a replacement for the other

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