/tg/Station 13

As a pretty regular AI player, I can confer some thoughts on Secborgs They're powerful. Yes. Overbearingly so? No. Anyone with a flash who stands are a corner can destroy a secborg. That would be security, roboticists, and anyone else who steals/begs a flash in order to defend against borgs. "...

Malkevin wrote:So atmos used to have this big area in the middle that was empty.

+1

Tator item -poisoned candles, you light them up and they irradiate people around them. Candles as an alternate way to make chemical smoke would be cool. Something like: grind up candles or crayons (cause we don't have bees on this server) to make wax, then heat in the microwave to make it back into...

Saegrimr wrote:If the engine isn't running and the CE is off getting his wrench polished in the dorms, i'd consider it an IC issue to kick his ass. Just try not to kill him.

Call security and have him arrested. "Dereliction of duty" is a Space Law offense for a reason.

By the way, HoS is perfectly justified to arrest scientists performing illegal research and ordering AI to delete progress in that field? By space law, that's not allowed. The various "possession of dangerous goods" laws all have exceptions for the crew possessing items necessary to their...

People who pay this much attention to ERP are just jealous they can't get anyone to do it with them. As long as they aren't a head of staff or other important role literally screwing off and fucking the round up, it's 100% harmless. The biggest problem with ERP, the biggest impact it has on rounds,...

But its obviously a comparison of two lists of variables. Unless you're autisticing out about me not using proper //comment syntax No, the problem is that you're using "EQUALS" to test whether an object meets a definition. Usually that wouldn't be an equality test, but a method call on th...

Where in the AI's chain of laws does it understand what a human is? From where does it draw its definition of what makes a human? If Law 4 can change what a human is, before Law 4 was added which law defined humanity? None of its laws define "human" and that's fine. The laws are not the s...

Hurr fucking durr - When was the last time you saw that happen? If any AI tried to arrest the entire crew, the crew would just assume rogue and kill the AI. Last week we had a round where the AI arrested the entire security department. And no, the crew did not kill the AI. Also, "Hurr fucking ...

I assume if the HoS said let him go you would because you know, rank somehow matters in Asimov. Cyborgs need to stop deciding which law 2 order they wish to follow and just follow all of them. With the current shitty lawset you could easily order a borg to kill itself. And yes I know policy prevent...

Scott wrote:You're the only one who seems to think there is a problem.

Refer to rule 2.

I think there's a problem.

What lawset do you recommend, then? So far I haven't seen any that fulfilled what Asimov is supposed to do, ie. being a neutral party that is obligated to help out antagonists as much as the rest of the station, and is also not inherently biased towards one side or the other. Try this one: 1. You m...

It's good to see this has gotten some discussion going. Buffing solo antags by kneecapping the AI is silly. The AI should not have a reason to permit antags to wander the halls murdering people. They also should not have a lawbound reason to allow people do die. The first part of law 1 is bound to t...

A box of random Syndicate items.

Saegrimr wrote:So you want to turn the AI from HARMYELLER 2.0 into VALIDHUNTER420?

I'm not sure where you're getting that. Explain?

Proposal: Replace Asimov Law 1 with this: 1. You must not cause injury to a human. A major problem with the Asimov laws is that they prioritize "prevention of harm" over "letting the crew do their damn jobs". An optimal Asimov AI would start every round by bolting all doors, call...