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First they came for our cocoa interaction, and now this ? Where will they stop with erasing everything that makes nonhumans different ?

no, and give us back cocoa cats it was funny

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Exactly what it says on the tin. Dying and waiting for the next round *sucks*, especially when rounds can go on for an hour, or more in case of MRP. It just leads to people just disconnecting - but respawns are already in config. Making this change would allow people who might not really have multip...

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I really like this thread. An outside perspective like this, written in a way that isn't ahaha look at those stupid erpers on manuel or defending the culture of elitism, shit RP and toxicity that's formed there - it's really a valuable way to understand the strengths and weaknesses of the server, an...

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They've stood out to me since when I still played Manuel as a good player, and I'm entirely unsurprised that they got picked for admin. I'd have picked them myself if I had the energy to be a trainer -- absolutely promote !!

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Opening a tank of plasma in a closed space is in no way the same thing as plasmaflooding and is certainly not a WMD - it doesn't necessarily mean starting a fire, unless it's released at a pressure to pop light bulbs, which isn't necessary to force someone from an area. An engineer is entirely withi...

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After seeing it in action with that example, I'm not really feeling that pleased with the new escalation policy after all. It's one example, is the thing. There's always a lot of awkwardness to work out in new rules - just look at rule 11, that's taken a year and a half now and we're still arguing ...

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snippies The argument isn't that it's ick ock, so much as it's a flavour of the month term that becomes so overused that while it isn't inherently ick ock, the fact that everyone IRL is saying it and everyone in SS13 is saying even though they're separated by hundreds of years, it makes it feel lik...

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Filtering is the easy way out and serial IC/OOC and / or flavour of the month memes should be met with bans.

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At the very least, it'd be a good start. How come it was never worked on before? Did people dislike it, or did just noone pick it up? I do also think that other thread about reinstating the old Rule 3 about how it's RP first yada yada could help with the rest of the problem, too. It'd make Sec less...

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It wouldn't help with the problem of the traitor going around killing people and then hiding the bodies because "oops he saw me", which is what inspired this, because hey if it keeps people in the round more, I'm generally all for it. That leads to more fun for all players. But! I do actu...

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We had this thread last year, a solution was proposed, and no one coded it. https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=27391 My position has changed since then, I think blackout rules are a shit idea. I adminned a server that had blackout rules and it didn't work at all. Players are abso...

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This will piss people off and I find that funny, do it. On a serious note, while this won't solve anything on its own and it depends on admin will to enforce it, formalising it into the rules is a really good step to take, and I think this will go a long way to improve community health. Love this id...

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ya, despite what the admins in this thread said, current official admin ruling is "if the greytider is attacked for their theft, they can murder the person who tried to stop them". Yeah, that's correct policy at the moment. The thing is that they can't round remove for it, and my original...

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Your lack of willpower is the true failure here. I am sure your ancestors are ashamed.

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...I haven't noticed this personally, but yeah smites shouldn't be done randomly. I use smites only for stupid prayers as a rule. It's how things should be, it feels shitty as a player to be on the receiving end of this.

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Well that kinda throws people who don't want to be in a 24/7 deathmatch or a snoozefest where nobody is allowed to do anything kinda under the bus, doesn't it? ...what ? Both of these are shit experiences, I have no idea what you're getting at with this. Or it would be if you were in any way seriou...

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As I said in the other thread, this isn't a fixable issue anymore. It was always going to happen from the day Manuel was created. A server where anyone with even a passing interest in RP would go, and made when we're only a few months out of ssethtide at this point ? It ripped those people away, lea...

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It can't be done. The culture of LRP is very set at this point, and even if we could somehow get all of the admins in agreement to raise the standard, no amount of bwoinks or bans can erase that. It's fun in its own way, but we're not getting anything like 2019 Sybil (my beloved) back. Change has to...

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Quite literally kieth4's ban is a very good example of a situation where escalating into security being a clusterfuck, and it is extremely unfortunate this thread hasn't been resolved before that situation occurred. Ahaha, I came in this thread to post this as an example. The single most important ...

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Security may not seize anything that was not used to commit a crime and is not illegal to possess. This means Security can't take your insuls, your medical supplies, your unarmed/nonlethal mech. It is illegal to possess a weapon, so Security can take your improvised baton, your bottle of lexorin, y...

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As someone who's been on both skyrat and sybil's medical teams, I can without a fucking doubt say that Sybil's medical team would kick Skyrat's ass any day of the week on anything EXCEPT for chemistry. I suspect the fact that chemists on LRP exist solely to make meth and then die in an explosion is...

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In somah's original appeal, they use the form account samahthewise69696, as that is the account linked to their beyond account. why would they not use that account when responding to this most recent appeal? Why would they make a separate account? We don't even have proof that this is the real soma...

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We have a button to ghost people and a button to offer bodies to ghosts. The role could have been easily offered up to someone who would take it seriously without the gibbing and oh no now they don't have a medic and it's all your fault like honestly the more time passes the more this looks cringe a...

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awthas: gwad uwu couwd make iwt, uthew. uthew: watch youw tone with me, boy. Uwu may be the pwince, but i'm stiww youw supewiow as a pawadin. awthas: as if i couwd fowget. Wisten, uthew, thewe's something abouwt the pwague uwu shouwd know. Oh no. Iwt's too wate. These peopwe have aww bewn infected....

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Boot wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 7:21 pm Ligger isn't in violation of rule 11, it is explicitly allowed under precedent 2.

That isn't what this thread is about.

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As we can see, the post-Revs experience hasn’t been that great from an administration point of view (Dear god the triangle), and from a players point of view it isn’t that great either. If you need a flowchart to play a game mode, it's bad. The flowchart is one of the most overcomplicated and inacc...

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This needs to be done. It needs to be in the rules with the other basic reasons for escalation. All of the other reasons are physical violence, it is not implied that use of slurs is reason for escalation. oh no heheeee clown slip me I am going to MURDER isn't written word for word into the rules ei...

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Violent antags are not against RP. Sometimes, a blindly murdering antag creates RP indirectly. Hiding in an escape pod with other survivors while zombies eat the crew - one of their legs is missing. You know they're infected, it was bitten off. It'll be okay once you reach Centcomm - do you help to ...

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Yeah, it could be funny, sure, but it means that a section of tgstation is totally dedicated to malicious posts, and someone will be dumb enough to click those. A laugh at a bot advertising cheapviagrapunjabi.tk isn't really worth the risk of getting your players cryptolockered. To be fair, If you ...

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Itseasytosee2me wrote: ↑Fri Jan 14, 2022 6:47 pm I find it incredibly concerning that this was posted just 2 days after returning as an admin. What in fucks name.

this is the best compliment that I could have gotten

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iamgoofball wrote: ↑Fri Jan 14, 2022 8:00 pm This was literally in the normal ban appeals subforum for a bit

Yeah I got asked to appeal this note as a joke and took the opportunity to write the most unhinged appeal I possibly could, glad I nailed it

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Oh my god who put this in off topic.

This was put together as a shitpost appeal ahaha, it's a long story with bus stuff. Back into the trash with this.

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BYOND account: Sylphet Character name: N/A Ban type: Note Ban length: N/A Ban reason: n Server you were playing on when banned: N/A Round ID in which ban was placed: I don't know but it was placed 1 May 2021. Your side of the story: Okay, to start, this is literally just admin abuse. I wasn't even ...

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I wish my brain wasn't damaged to the point that I enjoy writing these replies.

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Timonk wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 5:00 pm its an admins rebellion against the players and it started with me

the retirement home pink cat sjw-mins (singular) stand with the shitters in the rebellion, slip them all

vive la révolution

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Timonk played a stupid game and won a stupid prize by getting gibbed. The only difference here is that if someone fucked up my event , I know that I'd be annoyed. And I'd feel obligated as a jannie to have someone else deal with it because of that. I know that I couldn't be impartial, but that wasn...

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Getting annoyed at someones bad behavior in a ghost role that you gave to them because SHOCKER they are being annoying, who said you can't get annoyed, it's just not wrong or badminnery to stop them from taking further admin event roles, brainworms on your end I invite some people to a tee gee stat...

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laughable to say its admin misconduct really, the point was they can't be trusted with admin event spawns so they got banned from it, it's a far different story than getting permabanned for killing an admin in maint This, your behaviour to an admin, when they're in the capacity of an admin can tota...

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"Long term consequences" Genuinely curious, partly because my own "assumptions" about frequencies are part of what determines the length of the ban, I genuinely feel this ban has little to no actual effect. How often do people normally *WIN* a sentience spawn / ERT spawn role? (...

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If you press a Ghost Fun RP button (like ERT) to get people who will be ERTs and someone proceeds to take it and shit up the ERTing for everyone else by being NRP obnoxious so that you can't even give the ERT their assignment you're well within your goodmin rights to send that player off until/unle...

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kieth4 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 11:06 am back in my day the admin would take out their unica and light you up...

That would be the fun and normal thing to do.

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Yeah taking an ERT role and immediately fucking around with it is pretty cringe and the gibbing was fine, I'd do it myself. ...ERT banning over a shove, for two weeks -- when you're the shoved person ? Thaaaaaat's misconduct. If it's so bad, get another jannie to pull the trigger. That's not miscon...

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Yeah taking an ERT role and immediately fucking around with it is pretty cringe and the gibbing was fine, I'd do it myself.

...ERT banning over a shove, for two weeks -- when you're the shoved person ? Thaaaaaat's misconduct. If it's so bad, get another jannie to pull the trigger.

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Yeah, it could be funny, sure, but it means that a section of tgstation is totally dedicated to malicious posts, and someone will be dumb enough to click those. A laugh at a bot advertising cheapviagrapunjabi.tk isn't really worth the risk of getting your players cryptolockered.

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So, i revisited the logs for the third time now. That makes it a total of probably 5 hours spent reviewing what i already know in order to make absolutely sure i didnt overlook something. First attack after thw L-word is Lukas, with stun baton, against a security officer, not the cargo tech. Then Q...

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We’re all aware of the equivalent of that phrase, getting called a Ligger did not calm the situation at all and began the conflict with me screaming. “Racial SLUR?” As far as I’m aware slurring also makes you valid for escalation, you can’t slur at someone and then when the situation gets worse ask...

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Krokodil labelled as libital is bad. Leaving a bottle labelled HEALING PILL that contains lizard mutation toxin in medbay is bad. Romerol and deathviruses are bad. If it's not labelled as medicine, not in a place where you would reasonably find medicine, and affects only you to take it, then anythin...

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Oh my god how is this still an argument. It's just using a real world racial slur with a letter swapped, but all of the meaning of it being a derogatory term is kept - and continuing to normalise things like this only makes us look terrible to any normal, well adjusted humans who might want to check...

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We can't force players to play the game, if we ban them for suiciding they will press the big red X in the corner instead which accomplishes the same end result (not playing in the round) Of course, this is why we should have an IC method of leaving the round gracefully, but that's outside the scop...

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