/tg/Station 13

This has been suggested before - I even think someone may have tried to code it, not sure though.

Personally when it comes to armour, having not read any of this thread at all, I like to use a game like dark souls for a prime example of how armour should work. Armour itself is barely going to save you, it might give you that extra leap of surviving one extra hit, but it isn't something you shou...

This sounds really neat, but functionally it will be ghetto thermals.

armor has been fine since the last tweak and i've seen 1 other person complain about it since then, why is it suddenly worth messing with again Just because it's not game breaking enough for people to continue complaining about after 6 months, doesn't make it anywhere near ideal. I personally don't...

I never understood the logic behind the armour nerfs. People always said "stuns are OP", which in isolation is true, but nerfing armour does not address that issue any any way, shape or form. Stuns by definition, are a 1 hit fall over. So it doesn't matter how weak armour is, or how powerf...

Only downside of this is that it makes it harder for the crew to get access to a pinpointer - it's fairly common for some scrubshit op to get dunked and looted rather then suiciding.
Not sure if that's a good or bad thing, but it is worth keeping in mind.

Having deeper parts of lava land be so hostile and deadly that you can't survive without a hardsuit or whatever, would be the most interesting way to do it, tbh.

I added it because it's useful in case the station is blown up, or you want to do some space adventures instead of mining. Using it on lavaland is not advised in the slightest So... you added it so miners can fuck off and not do their job, or worse, be powergaming turbonerds while also not doing th...

But you don't even need to 'camp arrivals' though?
99% of people will go straight down the corridor - that's enough time for 50% of the crew to intercept and murder/convert/molest them, before they can do jack shit.

Oldman actually can't envision a situation where a player wouldn't use all the powers available to them to make the round more enjoyable. Seriously, it's not his fault he just cannot imagine that situation at all. It's almost as if peolpe have consistantly abused everything and anything to their ad...

This is a very broad and vague question(s). There is plenty of legitimate reasons to be in medbay as non medical staff, as well as reasons to urgently get in/break in if need be. This is not the same thing as shifty totallynotcultistsorrevs loitering around, or greys trying to loot the saw/medkits/h...

To expand on this idea, instead of making it specifically an execution block make it a general "chopping block." This way all our jokes about sharia security that cuts off the hands of EVA thieves will become true. By the way, now that dismemberment has been added it's about time we find ...

Just use the whole 'evil cannot enter your home without invitation', only instead of home, make it your workplace/department.

>breaking a window now causes explosive decompression and near instantly spaces and kills anyone in the room Git gud >An airlock closing on you now gibs you as a real airlock has sufficient force to completely crush a human body git gud >getting shot now has a chance to hit a key artery or important...

Yes, let me try all those methods to kill the wizard which are terrible and have a low chance of working. Yes, lets keep trying that and let dozens of people get murdered by the wizard in the meantime, possibly including myself. A wizard systematically wipe out the crew because they're nearly untouc...

If this is the same as last time, it's still terrible as hell yo.

Disabling comms has been scientifically proven to increase FUN by 97%. Seriously though, whenyou don't have to worry about people shouting out on radio, and all of sec coming down on you like a ton of bricks, you have far, far more freedom as an antag. That said, that's mainly from the perspective o...

Dats da joke yo.

Coderbus being fascists, and being a single collective etc etc?

Well if an ordinary giant killer spider will murder you on sight, why would the one you spawn in science be any different? Depending on the method used to spawn it, theres big text telling you to not be a fuckface, follow your master, or nothing at all (which basically means go be an asshole spider...

I still think making them coders and their base the coderbus is better.

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It doesn't even make sense that touching the grill gives you a minor shock while throwing something at it shocks everyone within a three tile radius, killing them. I know this is 2D spessmens and we don't strive for realism, but that's ridiculous. Pretty much this. It's a meme change that's simply ...

This is a common sense thing. There is no reason to be obligated to obey your momma spider unless explicitly told so, but killing them fnr is simply rule 1 faggotry. I think he's talking about the spider killing lots of humans, not the other spiders, as the prime concern. Oh, player created mobs? W...

There's a difference between interesing, dangerous features and getting 1 sheet of metal and a wire and making an infinite death rape machine with it. It's basically an electric fence - you touch it and it zaps you. Now, something touches it, it sends FUCKHUGE energy balls everywhere to pound the fa...

what?

Edit: Could always just rename the nazi's to coders - fascists are fascists right? :^)

This is a common sense thing.

There is no reason to be obligated to obey your momma spider unless explicitly told so, but killing them fnr is simply rule 1 faggotry.

Ok Pappy.

I actually don't know what you're talking about. Where are all these HoS players that just sit on their ass in the brig like the warden? I have literally never seen this, barring afk hos's and when there's no one else to cover the brig (and often even not then). Stop trying to strawman with your gea...

Every round without a CMO, medbay functions perfectly fine. Every round without a CE, engineering functions perfectly fine. Every round without any one role, will function perfectly fine. Why are you upset that literally every HoS player since the beginning of time has played the role in a way that ...

The system for most of the years WAS a no efficiency system, and everything was fine. Then upgrades got added, which gave like x2 efficiency, then ORM got added, then later made upgradable, for x3 efficiency, then t4 upgraded got added to everything, for a ultimate efficiency of x12 or something. Th...

While there is a magic spewing memester slowly murdering the entire crew, going for the absolutely safest, best method to kill them without collatoral is really, really unreasonable. That doesn't mean you should be able to blindly suicide bomb them and ass fuck the crew, but a competent wizard means...

fun fact: if you mute the wiz via mute toxin or perflu, they can't cast spells that require an incantation, which is most of them (blink being a very notable exception however).

>add stupid gear to HoS to make him an effective antag hunter (le snowflake taser) >pretend he's always been like this You know I tried to help you understand why your Securimeme PRs get shit on but your crybaby bullshit is probably going to work anyway so I don't care anymore. Anyone who gives a s...

I wouldn't worry about golem balance - their situation should be balanced around R&D, not the other way around.

So basically what you're saying is... remove the hos role? Because making the hos into the warden is basically just removing the hos role. And yes, the HoS leads from the front. That is indeed why he has objectively superior gear and access while the warden just has a cozy office. Stop implying that...

The HoS demoted officers, not the warden (unless the hos orders them to). The warden is merely the person who is in position to see someone be shitcurity with sentencing or whatever the fuck. I don't know how you think removing the warden will possibly make sec 'more fun', considering the entire way...

Current science is 'max out absolutely everything and shitout OP shit for days and never leave science ever'. This system requires some level of co-operation - and with the idea of science being able to directly upgrade other departments shit, then they have a pretty damn good reason to help. Nerfin...

But it's not exclusively one or the other - it just tends to always be, one or the other. Basically, once one group, be it a gang or sec, gain real momentum, they very rarely lose, barring a fuck up with a dom or a bomb fucking them all. There's no real way to get back into the fight - once one grou...

Oh lawd, back when tommy's used the same rounds as c-20r's, THAT was broken as fuck.

It changed a lot. Having a limit to dropping doms means if you fuck up, you basically lose the round. Back when there was no limit, there was no risk in losing the dom itself, and if defended well it was a great way to force your enemies out of the woodwork or lose the round. Also guns were cheap as...

Christ pap why are you still such a hostile shit? It doesn't matter if you're a mlgpr0 sec officer or not - if shit is busy, it's far far easier to be able to drop off criminals at the brig and tell the warden their crimes, and let him process them. That means they are free to go back out into the s...

RCD's got buffed literally like 5 times, ON TOP OF getting added fucking everywhere. These changes made absolutely zero sense, considering the supposedly logic behind them was 'construction is slow and shitty'. You know what a great way to fix that problem is? FIX CONSTRUCTION, not sweep it under th...

It's pretty shitty to ban people for unintended friendly fire not entirely within their control (dude getting trapped in a room/running blindly to their death/etc), as a defensively geared wiz IS fucking obnoxious to take down. Repulse + MM + lightning + jaunt is such a fuckyou wombocombo of never d...

People who play sec to valid hunt (or any role and just validhunt because they can, for that matter) are fucking cancer and can kindly fuck off. I also agree that sec doesn't need to be expected to 'win' in any game mode (except mainly nuke and wiz, nuke because they're trying to NUKE THE STATION an...

Yeah, perflu is really easy to make, and lasts fucking ages.

How about if the mute on perflu was delayed in some way? Victims could still call for help, but they wouldnt be able to provide a running commentary as they get dragged into maint and murdered.

The problem that this (and other modes) tends to boil down to, is the simple fact that people can't oppose you if they're dead. Yes I can try and hold and convert everyone, or fight over every bit of turf. Or I can do the logical, if less fun thing, and simply kill everyone I can't readily convert t...

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ss13 rimworld, hm.

The amount of time we've had truly terrible prs get merged quickly, despite experienced and knowledgable players clearly and accurately pointing out their flaws and consequences are, is sadly hilarious.

Why would I want to play as security anymore? It's unfun shit, and because no other good players play the roles anymore, you're 99% guaranteed to either have a shit sec team or no sec team at all. Lots of people strongly dislike sec, and just spout memes when people sincerely try to improve them, so...

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