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I'm not sure that I can get to shaps's conclusion just off of ban #s, and Timber's account suggests kieth was active, productive, and communicative - as a headmin, with headmins. policy discussions and ban appeals take place on the forums and discord. given how much of how the game feels and how th...

I guess, my last question, would be similar to what I asked Rex. Would you consider forcing breaks on admins to have them reset for mental health or you noticed them just aggressively burn out? It was during my first term that Mothblocks, Melbert and myself pushed a core mantra within the admin tea...

Hey there Timber. Glad to see you're running again. One of the lads running against you is TBM who you put up to be on the team. Why should somebody vote for you over them if you felt that they were strong enough to be your successor? I chose TBM because he represented the best of what old school S...

The headmin elections brings out the best and the worst in all of us.

It's a read between the lines moment.

There are very specific targetted incidents that a lot of the negative admin comments are referencing without referencing.

Instead of paragraphs, people just need to be direct and say what's on their mind in 10 words or less. It's how Kieth's brain operates.

As one of the two people who can give an honest review of how they were within the headmin team... Kieth was a good co-headmin. He participated in everything headmin. Policy. Appeals. Some very difficult internal affairs investigations. Training and recruitment. He was very easy to work with and was...

I am happy to see you shake off the rust! I know you have stated in the past, you run for headmin when you see issues and have a problem with them. I am curious to know what you noticed or is this term to continue the work that began awhile ago? Good eye. This time it's observing how admins and pla...

For reference I don't really care about generally discussing my admin-side hidden conduct during elections in sweeping generalisations. If the topic is directly relevant to my suitability as headmin it's fair game to address regardless of where it came from. - The current term seemingly did a lot o...

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I'll miss you at the debates.

Any player that has the potential is likely just pulled onto the admin team since they tick every single box necessary. And they can be running events within a couple of weeks.

I edited just as you posted that Conrad, but yes - that's basically how it works now.

There's no end of ideas for events. Any GM and any admin trainer can make any player into any admin-tier rank they like, and all trainers and GMs have the authority to promote players up to event runner. They don't even have to ask permission, it's just something they can do automatically. We just d...

Thank you based lemon person. That's a good summary.

With regards to event runner, there's a lot of red tape with handing it out due to how admin permissions are set up. The minimum permission set to run events kinda crosses over with the minimum permission set to arbitrary permission escalation. So our starting point when giving people event runner i...

Non-rule-4 quasi-antags are definitely a thing. They can go for their objectives only and cannot do any antagonism outside of that scope. Obsessed is, of course, the classic poster child of this. Thief was also an example. RIP thief. Comms agent. Ashies. Regal ratte . I have to agree with Conrad tha...

It's a bit of a meme that comes up every election. The difficulty with player created events is that it needs someone to run them. Few admins are willing or, honestly, sometimes even capable of running them. Fewer players fall into this category still. That is the great barrier. Players can already ...

My take from the admin channels: My take: it's a limited time event. Are they playing in bad faith or within the spirit of the event? If bad faith, admin it. If spirit of the event, we don't need to be rulebots. Don't follow the rules strictly during Valentine, follow the story. Also you can simulta...

Something something campaign propaganda here. Admins don't have to get professional, they just have to be polite, neutral and non-confrontational. Too many players have learned to detest admin interactions because those admins have no personalities in tickets. In any ticket a player just wants to be...

Option one is: Work hard. Play hard. Sleep while you're dead. Option two is: Just take things steadily. I'm 35 and since I was in my early 20s I've learned a few programming languages, gotten a master's degree, changed careers like half a dozen times, picked up so many hobbies and gained so much kno...

vect0r wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 5:41 pm I hope if you get headmin you will start timberposting again, correct?

It's mandatory.

Poly is human. Everything Poly says is the objective truth.

Awho before you upload this law, because some admins will probably hold you directly accountable for when this goes wrong.

I uploaded it once before in the very distant past. It worked very well.

I had to run.

I wanna work with Dendy and our rules pages are too complex. Dendy's the kinda co-headmin that would be a perfect partner in crime for reworking/rewriting/reimagining the core server rules.

Phuzzy has been quite busy lately and hasn't posted on the Discord since December and hasn't been available for a couple of bans in the past 6 months. Vekter was kind enough to ping him in the admin channels. Hopefully we'll keep an eye on this and if Phuzzy's still busy someone will invoke the Doct...

Who? Game Master. Trainer. Discord Jannie. Keyholder. Maintainer. Feb 2022-Sep 2022 Host Vote Headmin ft. Mothblocks and Melbert Mar 2023-Sep 2023 Admin Vote Headmin ft. Kieth4 and Misdoubful. I bring necessary class and style to any headmin team, with a zesty blend of seriousness, sass and shitpos...

I wouldn't say annoying assistants are security job content. I'd say they're admin job content though. SS13 is set up so all sorts of players get into conflict in general. That natural conflict stemming from different people being thrown into a huge social experiment space station is the sec job con...

In the most general of general terms, greytiding is "technically" against the rules on MRP. Which rules, I hear you ask? Um... Kinda most of them. RP Rule 1 can be applied to LRP/NRP style tiding RP Rule 2 allows ignoring escalation against tiders RP Rule 3 empowers Heads of Staff and Sec ...

I moved houses in Jan and I'm currently neck deep in the first part of a few years of training to become an air traffic controller. Reaching the end of the very intensive introductory phase where I'm in the classroom 8:30am - 4:30pm Mon to Fri and studying another 3-4 hours at home after that. Suppo...

Plasma flood good. Killing people trying to fight the plasma flood bad, that's a direct and specific set of personal actions to maximise body count. What about an actually proper plasma flood with air alarms set and sabotaged doors for maximum spread? All that matters is whether the player took dir...

For mass station sabotage, final bodycount and round removal count is irrelevant. All that matters is whether the player took direct and specific personal actions to maximise the bodycount beyond merely setting up and executing the initial mass sabotage scenario. From examples given: Plasma flood go...

This doesn't need a ruling. I don't need a precedent to deal with players that make ahelps difficult by being unreasonably obstructive. I've done it before. I'll do it again. Making another ruling or rule just ties my hands to whatever arbitrary and poorly worded criteria are set. It should not come...

Cheshify wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2024 5:03 am Wonderful conduct from both player and admin. Entirely respectful discussion leading to a resolution. No need to feel sorry Epicgamer, sometimes you get it wrong and you'll never be in trouble for that.

Wrong, deheadminning you now.

Of course we all get those vibes. So why reinforce them? Should we not expect that minimum amount of effort from everyone? I don't think it would've been a complete waste of time to at least put the banning admin in the title. Sometimes we'll demand the person appealing fill out the template in a c...

They couldn't even be bothered to pull up the banning admin, even though it was in the screenshot. I just think they could've like at least said anything on the appeal itself. Much how admins have some chagrin when they percieve poor appeals, players have those exact same vibes when they percieve p...

And going into appeal to clarify recent rule changes is the life of a headmin. Admins shouldn't mald about players doing low-effort appeals when the appeal subject matter doesn't warrant high effort burnout-inducing walls of text. Sometimes the appeal is indeed as simple as "The rules say I can...

The player engaged with the ticket and the admin said "bored arguing go to the forums if you have anything more to say". That's fine and what we're trained to do when tickets are getting bogged down with technicalities. Rule 6 is there for a reason. I also don't think the player needed to ...

I like this appeal. There's no mega paragraphs or walls of text. The banning admin quickly moves out of the way to headmin review. The player understands what he did and why he did it, and from his interpretation of the rules he thinks he is right. His interpretation is just a touch overly literal....

Don't even play game, here only through tenure, provide $0.02 anyway

When the number of people participating real-time on Discord peaks over 10, the conversations are unfollowable. It was created to allow admins to discuss MRP policy by a headmin term that lacked tg MRP experience. It is best used in a "discuss this for 30 mins and ping us when you've figured it...

Oh yeah, I still fully stand by that ruling. Silipol even explicitly states silicons are not security and don't care about Space Law unless their laws require it. Admins should aggressively drive Silicurity players into the ground with ahelps requiring the silicon player to justify how they were fol...

Context behind roundstart malf being disabled is that it was a compromise to allow AIs to murderbone in MRP before going delta. This change was made when I rewrote the murderbone rules.

... - Roundstart borg slots have been taken up to 2 on all servers ... As part of this change: We generated the shared jobconfig.toml config file. This was modified to set Cyborg Spawn Positions to 2 and the relevant entry was uncommented. We deleted the old jobs.txt config files on all servers. We...

MAGA.

Make Antags Gaolable Again.

If I were to bring ban requests back, it would be as Unanswered Ahelps. If a player believes a rule was broken and ahelped it and the ahelp wasn't answered, they can come to the forums and request it be investigated. It's not perfect (end of round ahelps etc) but the goal should always be an ahelp f...

The only curse is that doing it irons out some grey matter wrinkles in parts of forum population. In peanuts players can have totally different discussions than in the appeal itself with the admin. They get challenged on different and more subjective parts of their ban and get a perspective that isn...

Seems incredibly IC issue to me. They were given access by the Cap. The Cap stated someone was getting access over comms. The Cap gave them a task to do. They didn't mesh well with an existing department member. Words were used (on the Roleplay server of all things) before eventually Might Makes Rig...

Regal rat is bound by its flavour text on LRP as a minor/side antag. That's probably buried in code, but I'm phoneposting at the moment and can't dig it up. Having all these neat roles players may have that create danger and conflict without turning them into a full rule 4 antagonist is neat and all...

It's fine for Vect0r to post here since they were involved, but additional parties tend to complicate appeals and I'm mindful this is """only""" a 12 hour ban. To that end, I've done some pruning/mod legwork with their reply and the OP, and request that any 3rd party co...

Awesome, thanks. Welcome back!

You're now unbanned on Terry and should be able to connect there.

You may need to wait for other servers to restart after their shifts end due to ban caching if you want to connect there.

Can you let me know if you connect to Terry okay so I can safely lock and resolve this appeal?

Just unban the guy. This is more effort than evading and more torturous to read than anything else.

Most evaders or whatever never even get as far as bothering to appeal. Throw the dog a bone.

We can just reban him again if he's clearly shitting us.

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