/tg/Station 13

feem

I think Grazyn raises an excellent point here, and it speaks to the distinction between some rando going around and doing shit and a head/officer/someone with power urging others to do shit or doing shit themselves. It needs to be part of the conversation that the person defending themselves from &q...

feem

I feel like you were kinda thrown under the bus here. I don't think you knew you were playing with the other player, but I have a feeling they did know. We'll lift your ban and the IP ban. In the future, if you're playing with other people from the same IP, try to take efforts to reduce the likeliho...

feem

Please open a separate ban appeal.

feem

In any case, I will not be lifting your ban. Under the circumstances, given that RadioactiveMush did not explicitly engage in any of the behaviors which are most egregious as a result of this ban, I would be willing to convert that ban to a shorter duration, but they'll need to open a separate ban a...

feem

I didn't ignore any of the downsides. In fact, I recognized them. Also, THEY DO NOT IMMEDIATELY CAUSE HARM. THEY ARE HIGH RISK, NOT HARMFUL, MODULES. THAT MEANS THAT AN AI CAN CAUSE HARM WITH IT, BUT DOES NOT HAVE TO You are incorrect. Also, please stop claiming that I "accused" you of an...

feem

1) While you are Asimov, you are not allowed to ignore the downsides of Asimov. You can't say "well, I'll be able to prevent harm better if I allow harm!". Read Silicon policy. 2) They uploaded a harmful law and you repeatedly requested that they upload a harmful lawset. You're both playin...

feem

Here is your ban reason: As Asimov AI, requested Tyrant lawset literally six times during early round with no threats. Allowed an individual playing from the same IP address, who they were just warned not to metagame with in the prior round, into the upload to make the change after prompting them to...

feem

Can you please keep your ban appeal in your ban appeal thread?

feem

Oldman Robustin wrote:low-end grief

>ordering the crew to arrest and perform surgery on the lizard crew

These are not the same thing.

feem

So just to clarify: * QM was arbitrarily asking for randos to arrest your lizard crew members and bring them to cargo for ??? * To resolve this issue, you decided to give people good boy points/favors for arresting lizards, cutting off their tails, and bringing you lizard tails Please explain to me ...

feem

Are you seriously asking when "Don't be a dick" started meaning you actually shouldn't be a dick to people?

feem

yeah this whole thread is ridiculous and you know how much I love to argue

feem

7 answers for 8 questions

feem

Are notes a list of things that have occurred? Are notes a list of reasons to ban you? Are notes stupid? Should players be held accountable for their actions? Should admins leave fewer notes? Should admins leave better notes? Do you trust players not to be shitheads if notes are only placed for bans...

feem

if we add bear people we need to add an arm replacement surgery which allows you to collect and install bear arms

and then when we play patriotstation rounds everyone will attack all the bearpeople for their arms

feem

Atlanta-Ned wrote: hog people

OINK OINK OINK

feem

calzilla1 wrote: But frogpeople tho...

honestly i'd be ok with fregpeople but i'm just saying let's not go HOG WILD

feem

i mean i don't disagree, i just mean going overboard, like 'OH WE NEED TWENTY DIFFERENT RACES' or 'I WANT BUNNYPEOPLE AND CATPEOPLE AND FROGPEOPLE AND DOGPEOPLE AND BEARPEOPLE AND HORSEPEOPLE AND' alien/unusual races which are interesting and involved in and of themselves or which produce an interes...

feem

calzilla1 wrote:Liggers hate fruit

feem

aside from the (surprisingly very limited, even during their heyday) erp groups, literally the only "BUT MY RP!!!" rights that people ever fucking scream about on this game are the people who want the "right" to be an murderous asshole or a racist fucktard or an oppressive shit t...

feem

who even has experiences in-game where someone else being a catperson or a lizard affects you without you being the one to make a big deal about it

feem

i mean you can't honestly expect people who don't play to read the rules when the people who do play don't read them either

feem

I actually don't get what's wrong with getting a second opinion if an admin neglected to intervene? As long as you don't conceal that you already talked with an admin, and that the previous ignored you... It might be weird of me to say, but I don't see much wrong in it. Just be sure not to violate ...

feem

you are the weakest link

feem

unfunny persecution of groups of other players to the point of damaging them or taking them out of the round for no reason other than that their sprite is different from yours is a blatant rule one violation and you know it

feem

what the fuck is this thread

feem

I'll bwoink people I catch ocking in icky but so long as the people reacting don't ock in icky themselves handling such things with mocking and pranking ICly is a tradition we should keep

feem

dude boh bombs, nobody ahelps it because they think it was an antag because that person's been acting shitty all round, come to find out it wasn't

oh well! nobody ahelped so it's ok right

(Before you say 'that'll never happen,' _it has happened_)

feem

Well then this means that the process isn't working as intended, if admins still need to rely on overwhelming proof to identify troublesome (or, in school jargon, "resource-intensive") players who keep rule-lawyering and admin-shopping and toe-lining around their notes. I tried for about ...

feem

Let's please not derail this thread to talk about why a particular player was or wasn't banned.

feem

I don't understand any positive distinction between writing notes about what players have done and their interactions with the admins in a way that other admins can view them and each admin keeping separate track of their interactions with players and then sharing that information voluntarily in a m...

feem

but goof doesn't trust admins to police themselves

feem

Kor wrote:I think players ... will make a name for themselves pretty quickly

kor, this is probably just me because i have memory problems, but i honestly have a hard time remembering which players are which without looking at notes

feem

I think at this point most of the arguments which are relevant to a note appeal about an Asimov cyborg building an emitter/reflector death fence in the unbolted, unlocked side room of the metastation bar have been made, the note has been updated by an admin, and we should wait for a headmin or the o...

feem

I definitely think they should be public; I thought they were.

feem

Non-help intent passive bumps aren't logged.

feem

If you regularly come close to breaking the rules without actually breaking them, it will be treated as the rules being broken. Repeated instances of the same rules being broken may be met with harsher consequences. Baiting people into escalations or situations where you can report them to admins w...

feem

Everything is a learning experience. A note indicates that something that happened has been talked about with admins and that the admin is now confident that you understand why that something should probably be handled a little differently next time. Don't be afraid of notes, don't be afraid of lear...

feem

Atlanta-Ned wrote: ahelp logs aren't publicly available.

Guess someone who doesn't trust the admins of the server they play on is screwed then!

feem

I mean there are two core interpretations here: 1) It's fun and nobody got hurt until someone walked into the shit; I guess more precautions should be taken next time! 2) ...but, asimov borgs probably shouldn't, _in general,_ be in the business of building deathtraps to begin with. I don't think the...

feem

It's already highly frowned upon and factors into ban decisions and appeals. i do not trust the administration to moderate themselves You're welcome to audit all ahelp logs. I've already been thinking about putting all player text into elasticsearch and performing lexical analysis, there's no reaso...

feem

It's already highly frowned upon and factors into ban decisions and appeals.

feem

ExcessiveJMadison wrote:So admins are literally Hitlers who ban for slight grievances even when no one reports it but also Who always IC issue things to the point where people don't ahelp because nothing will be done?

this is essentially the combined party line of the loudest players

feem

Qbopper wrote:there's a worryingly high amount of the population (well, on sybil, I guess) that don't ahelp because "admins wont do anything anyways" or something similar

and there's a similar subset of the population that says that admins do too much (see: this thread)

feem

remember the part where i said most of the time when we ask questions nothing happens?

a lot of those are situations where something looks fishy but it turns out to be hilarious and that's a-ok

feem

Kor, is this a new headmin ruling directly contravening a prior headmin ruling, or is it shitposting, i can't tell

feem

Intigracy is restricted to the hut, this seems like a reasonable complaint to repost.

feem

There are a few things that are missing from your analysis: 1) Sometimes admins fail to get back to the people who reported something if it's the kind of thing that can be investigated without asking too much of the first party (that's on the admins, and I've done this myself before -- sorry) 2) The...

feem

I'm pretty sure the point is admins generally won't care without people ahelping unless you're seriously being shitty and or pulling the same dumb things over and over and over for multiple rounds/days/weeks. This is the crux of it. Don't be shit. If an admin is shit to you, admin complaint or appe...

feem

I think it's worth noting that there's a distinction between an emitter trap and your above-average rage cage (electrified walls inside a protective, glassed-in area). As an asimov cyborg, you had every opportunity (and in fact a motive) to implement safeties _before_ you created the dangerous and d...

Search found 539 matches