/tg/Station 13

Skillywatt

I have a lot of reservations about this. Silicons influence every aspect of the game and you can argue that the game is pseudo balanced around it. Random roundstart lawsets would fuck with a lot of shit. Further, if you're just going to remove "cancer" lawsets, then I don't really see the ...

Skillywatt

I flip my shit sometimes when it dominoes like *arresting an assistant for breaking into cargo*->SHITCURITY ARRESTING FRANK FOR NO REASON-> entire brig has to deal with self antagging unfunny memelords. That doesn’t always happen though, so I have something to live for. I remember a time it was jus...

Skillywatt

Lizards are a race played by furfag ERPers exclusively.

Objectively false. How else will I play someone named memes-the-noun while getting shit on by silicons?

Skillywatt

oranges is 1000% correct on this but I'm assuming imsxz is semi joking with this thread

only round start species available should be humans or liggers

prove me wrong

Skillywatt

I think the main issue here is you left the base to raid the station because you were discovered. the admin may have been trying to convey to you that if things are so bad that you feel the need to launch an offensive on the station, you should be blowing up the base. I'm making a lot of assumptions...

Skillywatt

BTW something we can do with chases is add like a 0.5 second movement delay when you melee attack. Not enough to be annoying in a real fight, but enough to not allow hitting someone you're dragging if you're being chased. Obviously this doesn't help with getting spaced though. actually fucking geni...

Skillywatt

obscolene wrote:
Skillywatt wrote:make security jack boots negate the slow
this is a retarded fucking post

It's literally the same concept as making handcuffed people not slow you down but not every Tom dick and Harry with 15 cable coils can accomplish it.

Skillywatt

Just need a way for ebow->drag->run->esword (or some similar combo) to not be the meta. Make dragging take a hand slot and make security jack boots negate the slow. Someone can make a pair of restraints a lot easier than they can loot a sec officers boots, and then they have to sacrifice noslips.

Skillywatt

I very rarely get a bwoink as sec but I generally try to do the right thing. I think the last justice-related bwoink I got was actually as captain when a greytider was bitching he got perma'd and thought I authorized it when I just told them to gulag him for max points.

Skillywatt

I got less of a problem with the detective detaining someone (crap happens) but I have a real issue with them responding to calls for help like "sec to medbay" or whatever for some disturbance. that is absolutely not your job

Skillywatt

If you're not protected by law 1 and you deconstruct a borg I can see them getting revenge for that of their own volition in a vacuum yeah but this is kind of a grey area since the borg was ordered to kill the guy- I dont think "revenge" for defending yourself is valid in that scenario. t...

Skillywatt

tiding has been going in an increasingly negative direction for a while now, at least on bagil. Cat nigger cliques were just becoming more of a problem to the point I was putting myself at a tactical disadvantage simply by interacting with them in good faith. Shitters like Bal Dee were constantly ge...

Skillywatt

Did you decon them all the way down to an mmi and put the mmi in a new Borg?

I think the flavor text says you have no memory of anything prior to being borged when that happens but I could be mistaken

Skillywatt

Oh I thought you wanted to re-educate, but then you forgot to strip them and suit sensors showed death. I don't think there's ruling on re-education chamber being excluded from IC knowledge as being just an euphemism. hence why I think this should go both ways. If the silicon's get a free pass to A...

Skillywatt

Unless you've given the silicons IC reason to believe the re-education chamber is a source of harm, they should have let it be. The whole reason that room exists is so that Security can do their thing without the AI getting nosy. Honestly, we should have a policy thread on that, because that ruling...

Skillywatt

I've ahelped Borgs who ignored law 2 requests to fuck off when we dragged a prisoner into the "re education chamber" when I told the Borg we were going to re-educate, not murder, a tator. I was told Borgs are allowed to use their brains and assume we actually mean to harm. Seems like it's ...

Skillywatt

had a rev round where someone intentionally disconnected right before being converted, they weren't converted due to that. nothing came of it. i ahelped mostly out of curiosity on the topic and it seems there's nothing set in stone regarding it. A similar thing can be done against cult but it turns...

Skillywatt

I'm not sure why you even say this forum isn't a second ban appeal. Doesn't seem like it would be hard to see why I would say that, you've taken issue with one note appeal you didn't like and you're using it entirely as the basis for the thread instead of talking about the general issue at hand. I ...

Skillywatt

The naming convention and to mix it up.

I try to avoid playing lizard with confrontational roles (sec) but sometimes I still do for the naming convention.

Generally though, I play lizard when I'm a doctor or engineer for name memes.

Skillywatt

I appreciate the input. It's just hard to have these sorts of discussions without using examples/hypotheticals.

I'll just keep trucking along then and doing what I've been doing.

Skillywatt

snip Thanks. Yeah, I know there is a lot of context around this particular issue and it's difficult to frame an actual discussion because of that. I have no doubt the main reason the note mentioned in the op stood was because the guy who caught it was lying about the warden and, therefore, couldn't...

Skillywatt

Also, I've tased/searched people who were just standing around brig right after it exploded and found traitor shit on them. Is that something I could have gotten ahelped for? I'm sorry if this came across as a specific jab at an admin ruling. It's just the onus for the discussion of what is the actu...

Skillywatt

I promise you I read it. It just wasn't relevant. Let me rephrase my question to better get across my intent. If I search a bolted arrivals bathroom door because I heard someone say over coms "stetchkin at arrivals" and find an unrelated player, is that something I would get in trouble for...

Skillywatt

I'm not sure why you even say this forum isn't a second ban appeal. I wasn't the person who got noted. I'm a passerby who could totally see myself getting a note for the same scenario (that ended up being a lie, but the admin said it wouldn't have mattered if he was telling the truth, hence the thre...

Skillywatt

Well I thought so too but we had an admin saying it doesn't matter if someone is searching for a dead warden

Skillywatt

Even if he found someone behind the bolted door, if that person wasn't in there with the warden then it's kinda poor to go full valids and search and execute the guy instead of continuing your search for the missing warden. People getting valided for going into dorms/bathrooms because "the onl...

Skillywatt

IC issue. Should only be punishable by rule 0 if someone keeps picking a head role and calling it as soon as it's possible (or something as shitty), imo

Skillywatt

So I was perusing the ban appeal forums bored at work and was reading a particular instance a HoS caught a note for being sorta meta-gamey by searching bolted doors in a bathroom and catching a tator tot. In a vacuum yes, this is pretty lame and meta-gamey, but in the appeal the player stated he was...

Skillywatt

I don't know if this is peanut posting, but the guy said he was investigating seeing the warden dragged off. As a sec player, I'm absolutely going to drop and search anyone remotely acting sketchy in the vicinity. He could have had warden gear on him and then you have your perp. Granted, the op didn...

Skillywatt

What do I do when I'm captain and Rusty busts in trying to steal the spare for the 30th round in a row? Disable him, tie him up, remove any access from his card and designate him "Big Retard" and toss him out. He still gets to play the game and isn't going to have the means to disrupt it ...

Skillywatt

You're allowed to know all antag mechanics, so we wouldn't be able to use that argument. You can fake every other gamemode to without an issue (saying random codewords is also a thing). This is the argument we use for "It's [gamemode]" though yeah I get that, I'm saying that the rev fakin...

Skillywatt

trolling with fake revs should be an ic/ooc or metagame ban.

you shouldnt know "Revs" is a "gamemode" to fake. that makes no fucking sense.

if youre gonna ban/note people for saying oWo or netspeak then ban for this

Skillywatt

Absolutely agree. They're certainly open to demotion and I've been a part of that in the past when the HoS told detectives more interested in valid-hunting than detecting to gtfo

Skillywatt

Well it's advertised as such.

FYI, I've been here as a player since 2016ish, which isn't long tenured by any means, but I've been around long enough to know the culture here.

Bitching at detectives for arresting screams med/high RP.

Skillywatt

DemonFiren wrote:
Skillywatt wrote:That was my point, silly ligger.
but not mine

Then you'll need to explain because you made no point. Are you asserting low RP means the Det shouldn't arrest or face ooc consequences?

Skillywatt

That was my point, silly ligger.

Skillywatt

For each objective you complete, you get +1tc next time you traitor - if you complete all your objectives. When you complete all your objectives (except for escape), you can press a button to add a new objective. this will just make it so captains cremate their antique, the HOS gun, the hand teles,...

Skillywatt

I'm gonna say here what I said in that appeal thread If you act like an antag, you get treated like an antag. If you're an antag, you're valid. There should be zero ooc restriction on the detective for dropping someone acting like a fuck on a low-rp server. The "Det shouldn't arrest" flavo...

Skillywatt

I know this is peanut posting but Jesus
"Act like an antag get treated like an antag"

You can cremate antags

Disseminating AA is antaggy

This ban and the justification for it screams med/high RP.

Skillywatt

Actually , turning people into other things is ic issue. setting people on fire randomly is ooc issue If he keeps doing it every round, he'll get rule zeroed, which is probably why he was told to not do it again. Well, because of botany RNG, you cant really do it every round And rule 0 is fairly ir...

Skillywatt

adamkad1 wrote:Actually , turning people into other things is ic issue. setting people on fire randomly is ooc issue

If he keeps doing it every round, he'll get rule zeroed, which is probably why he was told to not do it again.

Skillywatt

forcing people to do anything against their will when youre not an antag and without justification is generally against the rules but may not be punished if its mostly benign. Getting people super-drunk and/or forcing them into different races without asking probably deserves an ahelp. Not everyone ...

Skillywatt

yeah a big problem with this is finding the line between murderboning and just killing everyone because everyone is out to get you. I remember loves the lizards was almost always "valid hunted" hard and genuinely didnt want to murderbone but thats what would end up happening with people th...

Skillywatt

1. Implanting will no longer reveal names. ehh +/- I think your solution would be a little too difficult to deal with but maybe you can do like a middle ground. I agree completely revealing the name makes it ez mode and you get crushed by security pretty quick, maybe give a random hint on shielding...

Skillywatt

I think the main reason this map gets so much random and non-specific hate is the engines. almost every round I've played on it in the last couple days has had a tesloose/singuloose in the first 5-10minutes and part of me believes that it happens with such frequency because .. well...because it's th...

Skillywatt

issues 1. security needs a gulag 2. station in general needs at least basic atmos functionality; at least in the main halls if nothing else. 3. random weapons in maint is interesting but has obvious issues 4. I couldnt find a defib in medbay, I guess we're expected to lathe one? seems odd though we ...

Skillywatt

am I going to get bwoinked for State Your Lawlz as clown or Zorg the Borg as borg? the former isnt firstname lastname (but is a clown) and the last is sort of a "title" or "honorific".

Skillywatt

Sec and Command players who feel the need to go the round removal route over the most trivial matters. They then usually gloat about how you're "just mad you got caught" and "a shitter", autistically missing the point. It's pathetic and with higher than 90 IQ you could find othe...

Skillywatt

it was alright, the map was cool and all but the overwhelming pop sorta made me nervous to try anything tbh. it was ok. it was very hectic/difficult as SEC. something like 50% of the people were legit trying to just have a good time and the other 50% were taking it as a license to tide and the SEC ...

Skillywatt

I mean if you're a shitty player admins aren't going to like you shezza so I don't really see the point you're trying to make. 2. You aren't known at all No one knows who you are, you have no notes, and you may or may not be new. Your chances of being sec at this event are probably low. My outlook ...

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