[Poll] Carp sprites

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Do you prefer the old or new sprites?

New
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19%
New
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19%
New
30
19%
Old
19
12%
Old
19
12%
Old
19
12%
Abstain
3
2%
Abstain
3
2%
Abstain
3
2%
 
Total votes: 156
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[Poll] Carp sprites

Post by paprika » #52480

Wjohn in his infinite shittery got these dark carp sprites merged under a guise of 'fixing' the sprites.

https://github.com/tgstation/-tg-station/pull/5634

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Vote. Mega carp is purple, yes, but that doesn't really matter because if anything it makes it stand out instead of blending in with the other types of carp so don't bring up the mega carp which I can easily make pink if you are going to bitch about consistency.
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Re: [Poll] Carp sprites

Post by Nienhaus » #52510

Current looks great.
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Re: [Poll] Carp sprites

Post by Scones » #52512

Current is a-okay.
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Re: [Poll] Carp sprites

Post by Incomptinence » #52538

I prefer old but it looks like it is just you and me loving the purple fantail.
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Re: [Poll] Carp sprites

Post by MMMiracles » #52560

I liked the old one, current ones look really pale and meh.
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Re: [Poll] Carp sprites

Post by soulgamer » #52563

Why dont we have both and when a carp is spawned it is randomly assigned purple or pink? Perhaps it would be sexual dimorphism amongst space carp?
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Re: [Poll] Carp sprites

Post by cedarbridge » #52621

The plushie toy carp reminded me how much I miss the old pink carp.
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Re: [Poll] Carp sprites

Post by Cipher3 » #52626

Paprika is it physically possible for you to make a thread without insulting everyone with differing opinions?


I like the old sprites.
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Re: [Poll] Carp sprites

Post by cedarbridge » #52628

Cipher3 wrote:Paprika is it physically possible for you to make a thread without insulting everyone with differing opinions?


I like the old sprites.
Something about disguising changes as "fixes"
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Re: [Poll] Carp sprites

Post by Nienhaus » #52629

I personally see it as a fix.
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Re: [Poll] Carp sprites

Post by cedarbridge » #52632

Nienhaus wrote:I personally see it as a fix.
Changing something to suit a personal taste is not a fix.
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Re: [Poll] Carp sprites

Post by Nienhaus » #52635

cedarbridge wrote:
Nienhaus wrote:I personally see it as a fix.
Changing something to suit a personal taste is not a fix.
Changing something to suit other sprite, to me I see that as a fix. It's my personal opinion.
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Re: [Poll] Carp sprites

Post by paprika » #52637

Cipher3 wrote:Paprika is it physically possible for you to make a thread without insulting everyone with differing opinions?


I like the old sprites.
Is it physically possible for you to not go straight into personal attacks against me and read the OP instead? Me calling wjohnston shit for this is completely justified, you people call me shit when I accidentally include things I forget to mention so him intentionally calling this a fix is total bogus.
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Re: [Poll] Carp sprites

Post by Plasma_Panda » #52678

oh god why is this child in charge of anything
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Re: [Poll] Carp sprites

Post by dezzmont » #52680

This is not only not a fix, but a downgrade. The new carp has less contrast than the new one and the details blur in more.

I wouldn't mind the old carp getting more detail work but the color change is just bad.
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Re: [Poll] Carp sprites

Post by WJohnston » #52691

Holy shit you people will complain about ANYTHING.

It was a poor choice of words on my part, I meant only to adjust them to fit with the megacarp and NT had done it previously. Apparently the word "fix" is still annoying people all this time later.
Apparently I was an director or something.
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Re: [Poll] Carp sprites

Post by cedarbridge » #52697

WJohnston wrote:Holy shit you people will complain about ANYTHING.

It was a poor choice of words on my part, I meant only to adjust them to fit with the megacarp and NT had done it previously. Apparently the word "fix" is still annoying people all this time later.
Its more people latching onto the meme of changing things to suit likes/preferences/personal aesthetics and calling them "fixes." This isn't a unique case.
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Re: [Poll] Carp sprites

Post by dezzmont » #52699

cedarbridge wrote:
WJohnston wrote:Holy shit you people will complain about ANYTHING.

It was a poor choice of words on my part, I meant only to adjust them to fit with the megacarp and NT had done it previously. Apparently the word "fix" is still annoying people all this time later.
Its more people latching onto the meme of changing things to suit likes/preferences/personal aesthetics and calling them "fixes." This isn't a unique case.
Exactly. A fix is a very specific use of terminology in programing and design, and using it to try to slip changes in is pretty sleazy. Regardless of what you intended, it makes it look like you are trying to be sneaky and manipulative. This would not be a fix unless the sprite somehow had a bug, like it was transparent or something, and to people familiar with the terminology involved that raises a red flag and instantly will make people judgemental and critical.

Looks like being the key words here mind. I am not accusing you of anything, I am just pointing out something you should cease to make your own life easier and to help you communicate your changes and ideas better. A best practice you should take up in order to better persuade people.

Also this sprite is in many ways objectively worse than the old sprite. Yes, art is subjective, but in general design choices can be evaluated objectively when looking at technical projects and in this context the lower visual contrast makes the details of the sprite less clear, especially its silhouette, which is bad and makes it harder to recognize as what it is which is the point of any icon like a sprite, and the muted colors make this dangerous creature catch the eye less, which is not intended. The pink hue is not a natural color and people will pay attention to it quicker than a muddied purple.

I wouldn't mind as much if it was a brighter shade of purple and the lines darker, or if you went and tried to enhance the old sprite to have more contrast and detail, but as is this really doesn't look good.
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Re: [Poll] Carp sprites

Post by paprika » #52700

WJohnston wrote:Holy shit you people will complain about ANYTHING.

It was a poor choice of words on my part, I meant only to adjust them to fit with the megacarp and NT had done it previously. Apparently the word "fix" is still annoying people all this time later.
I added the megacarp and intentionally didn't change the carp sprites, your 'fix' wasn't a fix at all
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Re: [Poll] Carp sprites

Post by delimusca » #52727

i decided to make a questionable new carp sprite in DM based on the Real deal.
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needs much improvement, teal looks nice in space though.
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Re: [Poll] Carp sprites

Post by paprika » #52736

Jesus christ
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Re: [Poll] Carp sprites

Post by cedarbridge » #52756

delimusca wrote:i decided to make a questionable new carp sprite in DM based on the Real deal.
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needs much improvement, teal looks nice in space though.
Looks like some sort of neon tuna.
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Post by Wizardjenkins66 » #52820

delimusca wrote:i decided to make a questionable new carp sprite in DM based on the Real deal.
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needs much improvement, teal looks nice in space though.
I like it.
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Re: [Poll] Carp sprites

Post by Raven776 » #52823

That green carp confuses me sexually.

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Re: [Poll] Carp sprites

Post by PKPenguin321 » #52856

tfw i agree with paprika
I liked the old sprites because they didn't blend in very well, high visibility meant you could at least see death coming right at you and the new sprites just seem dull and unfun
Probably just my innate "muh tg culture" talking but I miss pinkcarp
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Re: [Poll] Carp sprites

Post by TZK13 » #52857

Is everybody here blind, the "pink" sprite is purple. If anything it's MORE purple than the new sprite.
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Post by iyaerP » #52969

It is like hot fuscia pink.
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Post by callanrockslol » #53097

Why not have both?
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Re: [Poll] Carp sprites

Post by paprika » #53126

We did till WJ 'fixed' them
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Post by miggles » #53314

1. cipher did not "personally attack" you in any way, shape, or form, shut up
2. the end

keep both, just say the darker ones are female or something. or just give them a 50% chance to spawn as either with no change in anything else. you please both parties and it's a cool change to carp backstory or whatever.
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Re: [Poll] Carp sprites

Post by danno » #53326

paprika wrote:
Cipher3 wrote:Paprika is it physically possible for you to make a thread without insulting everyone with differing opinions?


I like the old sprites.
Is it physically possible for you to not go straight into personal attacks against me and read the OP instead?
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just keep both sprites, variety is nice
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Re: [Poll] Carp sprites

Post by MisterPerson » #53339

This thread has devolved into personal attacks and other bullshit.
I code for the code project and moderate the code sections of the forums.

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