Changeling team objectives

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Helios
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Changeling team objectives

Post by Helios » #126940

Somehow it seems like these team objectives have a lower win rate then debraining.
I can't remember ever seeing greentext on a team objective.
So, Changeling team objectives are not winnable. 96% of the time they fail if this is to be believed. http://ss13.eu/tgdb/tg/latest_stats.html
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DemonFiren
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Re: Changeling team objectives

Post by DemonFiren » #126945

Cursory examination suggests that you make a habit of whining about over- or underpowered phenomena.

I suggest not requesting to balance the game just because you got dunked.
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Helios
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Re: Changeling team objectives

Post by Helios » #126974

DemonFiren wrote:Cursory examination suggests that you make a habit of whining about over- or underpowered phenomena.

I suggest not requesting to balance the game just because you got dunked.
I haven't played changeling in days
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Re: Changeling team objectives

Post by Oldman Robustin » #126979

Helios wrote:Somehow it seems like these team objectives have a lower win rate then debraining.
I can't remember ever seeing greentext on a team objective.
So, Changeling team objectives are not winnable. 96% of the time they fail if this is to be believed. http://ss13.eu/tgdb/tg/latest_stats.html
Because there's no policy actually requiring them to act as a team and do their objective. I've never seen a ling team discuss their goals or how to achieve them in Hivemind... they all just murder and meme.
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Re: Changeling team objectives

Post by Cheimon » #127049

Yeah, if changelings were obliged to treat it as team antag they would.

But they aren't, so they don't. Plus the objective is difficult even without that: you're relying on every teammate being competent, on everyone else not catching on to the fact that the heads have turned into changelings, and on the incompetence of the heads of staff. Even a revolution can lose, and this is rev's objectives on steroids.
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Re: Changeling team objectives

Post by Super Aggro Crag » #127069

what happens is the changelings murder everyone, one changeling gets memed on and spams regen stasis while meming over Lingchat and all his buddies help him, so there's 3 non-lings alive on the station for 3 hours as the Lings revert every shuttle call trying to find the last head who is hiding in a locker in space.
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Re: Changeling team objectives

Post by Incoming » #127070

Not everything needs to be team game mode. I tend to agree this is too much to ask of lings.
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