Server has been borderline unplayable for the past week

Luke Cox · Post by **Luke Cox** » Thu Dec 24, 2015 6:13 am #142490

Even during off hours, we've been getting unbearable lag. This has been going on for a week. What's going on?

Zilenan91 · Post by **Zilenan91** » Thu Dec 24, 2015 6:21 am #142491

The Tesla

iamgoofball · Post by **iamgoofball** » Thu Dec 24, 2015 7:00 am #142495

I have a fix ready and was about to push it

AND THEN WINDOWS DECIDED HURR TIME FOR UPDATES YOU GOT 5 MINUTES SAVE YOUR SHIT

Post by **lumipharon** » Thu Dec 24, 2015 7:08 am #142496

why do we go from laggy engine 1 to laggy engine 2, when we have non laggy engines to use? RIP.

ShadowDimentio · Thu Dec 24, 2015 7:44 am

Because the singu and tesla are fun. Supermatter is not. Case closed.

Incoming · Post by **Incoming** » Thu Dec 24, 2015 8:05 am #142512

DON'T USE THE TESLA
or
IF YOU MUST TURN DOWN THE PA SO THERE AREN'T A MILLION BALLS

Steelpoint · Post by **Steelpoint** » Thu Dec 24, 2015 10:45 am #142521

SM Generator 2k16

Didn't we reach a point where the Singularity produced little to no lag (or whatever its called)? Can't we go back to that?

peoplearestrange · Thu Dec 24, 2015 3:26 pm

As MSO said on the server the other day, stop it assuming its something when you dont know. From what we saw it seems like its a mix of a byond bug and possibly the tesla engine, but even thats mostly guesswork and elimination.
It definitely doesnt seem to be atmos or the singulo as it used to be in the bad ol days.

Super Aggro Crag · Thu Dec 24, 2015 6:52 pm

bring back scaredofshowers 2016

Incomptinence · Thu Dec 24, 2015 9:52 pm

Just remove the engineering department and power stuff on by default if you can't resist plunging into immerse yet laggy generators.

Luke Cox · Post by **Luke Cox** » Thu Dec 24, 2015 10:28 pm #142604

I've been getting the lag at round start before the Tesla engine is up, and in rounds where it isn't used. I'm 99% sure it's not that.

Ricotez · Post by **Ricotez** » Fri Dec 25, 2015 2:31 am #142657

whatever it is i bet goof caused it

IcePacks · Post by **IcePacks** » Fri Dec 25, 2015 5:43 am #142688

ShadowDimentio wrote:singu

ShadowDimentio wrote:fun

i don't want to sound like a jerk but you're retarded

Ricotez · Post by **Ricotez** » Fri Dec 25, 2015 11:05 am #142714

IcePacks wrote:i don't want to sound like a jerk

you failed

Kraso · Post by **Kraso** » Fri Dec 25, 2015 11:21 am #142717

isn't the tesla just a glorified piece of shit singulo
why not just use the goddamn TEG or the plasma engine

Malkevin · Post by **Malkevin** » Fri Dec 25, 2015 1:52 pm #142723

Or stop being lazy shits and wire the solars into the grid

So much power, so little lag, so much safety

Post by **MrStonedOne** » Fri Dec 25, 2015 2:37 pm #142726

Luke Cox wrote:I've been getting the lag at round start before the Tesla engine is up, and in rounds where it isn't used. I'm 99% sure it's not that.

Please take a mtr report between your computer and the game server.

This is most likely a network hiccup

Luke Cox · Post by **Luke Cox** » Sat Dec 26, 2015 3:58 am #142879

MrStonedOne wrote:
Luke Cox wrote:I've been getting the lag at round start before the Tesla engine is up, and in rounds where it isn't used. I'm 99% sure it's not that.
Please take a mtr report between your computer and the game server.

This is most likely a network hiccup

Not just me, other people too. This isn't linked to any specific game mechanic as far as I can tell.

Sat Dec 26, 2015 12:30 pm

MTR report is a networking thing, i need to see what nodes your connection is passing thru and how much they contribute to lag to see if that is a cause.

http://winmtr.net/download-winmtr/

download, unextract, run the 64 bit version, if it doesn't work, try the 32 bit version.

In the host field, type "game.tgstation13.org" (without quotes) Run it until the first sent column is at 50 (or more), then stop it and hit copy text and put it in a post here inside

Code: Select all

 tags so it preserves the formatting.

This way i can see if it's a networking hiccup and where on the path it's because caused so i can yell at whoever is responsible for that internet node to get their shit together.

Luke Cox · Post by **Luke Cox** » Mon Dec 28, 2015 9:23 am #143209

I see, so it's basically traceroute. I'll give it a shot, although given what other people have experienced I have a feeling it's on the host's end.

Post by **MrStonedOne** » Tue Dec 29, 2015 6:08 pm #143467

Its traceroute plus ping -t.

it keeps sending out trace routes and storing ping and packet lost info for each node.

lets you see jitter, ping, and packet lost for each step. so you can find issues

Wyzack · Post by **Wyzack** » Wed Dec 30, 2015 5:39 am #143590

MSO why is basil still dead? Do we have an ETA on its return?

Malkevin · Post by **Malkevin** » Wed Dec 30, 2015 12:30 pm #143618

it's gone for good
#theconspiracy

Wyzack · Post by **Wyzack** » Wed Dec 30, 2015 9:11 pm #143694

I just wish I could get a straight answer as to its fate

Thu Jan 21, 2016 2:49 am

bump. server's been consistently laggy even when seemingly nothing is happening in a round. admins keep saying it's because of an influx of players from the hub. it's really, really bad.

Zilenan91 · Post by **Zilenan91** » Thu Jan 21, 2016 2:50 am #147761

Compared to 2 months or so ago, Basil is at 45 players... from zero.

Post by **MrStonedOne** » Thu Jan 21, 2016 3:22 am #147766

http://www.byond.com/forum/?post=2021963

Byond bug. I finally have enough info for a bug report.

Thu Jan 21, 2016 3:34 am

MrStonedOne wrote:http://www.byond.com/forum/?post=2021963

Byond bug. I finally have enough info for a bug report.

i pray that this follows through. thanks, mso

Timbrewolf · Post by **Timbrewolf** » Thu Jan 21, 2016 3:43 am #147769

people complaining about lag making the game unplayable makes me smile

I wonder what you would've thought of SS13 five years ago

Thu Jan 21, 2016 4:33 am

An0n3 wrote:people complaining about lag making the game unplayable makes me smile

I wonder what you would've thought of SS13 five years ago

it's not unplayable, just really unpleasant. thank fuck i didnt play this game five years ago, i have that super old build and even just in singleplayer its incredibly slow.

Zilenan91 · Post by **Zilenan91** » Thu Jan 21, 2016 4:41 am #147785

It's the genuine other-codebases-than-/tg/-experience, laggy as fuck.

Post by **MrStonedOne** » Fri Jan 22, 2016 7:21 am #148067

This is a special kind of lag, everything works, everything ticks on and happens normally, pressing keys or verbs even process on tune, its just clients don't get updates for 1.6 to 5 second time frames.

This would cause you to overshoot if you were moving (because you would still move thruout this time frame) all ticks would still count down, so shuttle wouldn't stop ticking like in other lags.

It's a bit more annoying then other cases.

Post by **MrStonedOne** » Fri Jan 22, 2016 7:45 am #148070

New info from byond, I made a patch to avoid triggering the exact conditions that cause this.

http://www.byond.com/forum/?post=202196 ... nt18164119

https://github.com/tgstation/-tg-station/pull/14776

J_Madison · Post by **J_Madison** » Fri Jan 22, 2016 2:15 pm #148102

I thought the lag was caused by two factors; high fps and atmos.

Considering I had high fps all the time, but an older atmos, I'm blaming fastmos for this one. Does that patch make fastmos less of a laggy mess, MSO?

Fri Jan 22, 2016 11:16 pm

J_Madison wrote:I thought the lag was caused by two factors; high fps and atmos.

Considering I had high fps all the time, but an older atmos, I'm blaming fastmos for this one. Does that patch make fastmos less of a laggy mess, MSO?

it was literally a byond bug, leave mso alone gay_madison

Post by **MrStonedOne** » Sat Jan 23, 2016 3:43 am #148267

fastmos just triggered the byond bug more often because fastmos triggers more often.

it's a byond bug at the core,

if world.cpu gets over 120, byond stops sending client updates for 1.6 to 3.2 seconds

Post by **MrStonedOne** » Sun Jan 24, 2016 8:14 am #148539

I take it from the lack of new posts in this thread lately that the server is better now?

Sun Jan 24, 2016 8:17 am

Very notably, yes. Thanks a ton, MSO.