Mirror mirror on the wall, who is the robustest one of all?

[Scones]

Bottom post of the previous page:

This thread is kind of made worse by allowing votes for people who don't play/were good pre late2014/2015

The game was a lot different

[ColonicAcid]

Your job is not to stop antags.
Your job is to keep the peace in the station, if that means dealing with antags, so be it, if it means mediating between crewmembers, so be it.
Your job is not solely to stop antags, it never has, it never (hopefully) will be.

[CPTANT]

Your job is not to stop antags.
Your job is to keep the peace in the station, if that means dealing with antags, so be it, if it means mediating between crewmembers, so be it.
Your job is not solely to stop antags, it never has, it never (hopefully) will be.

if there is an antag, it virtually always has priority, so yeah though luck on security not mediating crew member's boohoo's.

[ThanatosRa]

Burer because (kinda) old school.


I wanted to say IcePacks, but I can't when I know I got him at least once with a circular saw during a rev round.

[lumipharon]

Your job is not to stop antags.
Your job is to keep the peace in the station, if that means dealing with antags, so be it, if it means mediating between crewmembers, so be it.
Your job is not solely to stop antags, it never has, it never (hopefully) will be.

Pretty much this.

Valid boner 5000 mindset is what makes the game dull and shitty.
Also being shitcurity JLP tier, and arresting people for tiny petty things, especially when bigger things are going on.

[ColonicAcid]

Your job is not to stop antags.
Your job is to keep the peace in the station, if that means dealing with antags, so be it, if it means mediating between crewmembers, so be it.
Your job is not solely to stop antags, it never has, it never (hopefully) will be.

if there is an antag, it virtually always has priority, so yeah though luck on security not mediating crew member's boohoo's.

I see someone carrying an syndicate balloon. If i was following this way of thought I would have to arrest him for having a fucking stupid ass balloon. Totally okay in the rules, but that's powergaming at it's finest.
Is he causing trouble to the station? No, he's got a fucking balloon that has an S on it, big fucking boohoo. Meanwhile Mr. Greytider is breaking into engineering to get his tools or some gay shit.

Antags take priority according to you so I'm going to have to go for that "shitter" with the balloon.

[Xhuis]

i'm the most robust grudgecoder

in all reality i don't play enough to nominate anyone who's robust but honestly my award goes to those random-name assistants who are able to fend off half of the station with nothing but a spray can and fire extinguisher
they are the real mvps

[Luke Cox]

Your job is not to stop antags.
Your job is to keep the peace in the station, if that means dealing with antags, so be it, if it means mediating between crewmembers, so be it.
Your job is not solely to stop antags, it never has, it never (hopefully) will be.

Pretty much this.

Valid boner 5000 mindset is what makes the game dull and shitty.
Also being shitcurity JLP tier, and arresting people for tiny petty things, especially when bigger things are going on.

Any reasonable HoS will prioritize based on severity. It's just that 90% of the time it's an antag killing people. I never brig for more than 3 minutes if it's tiny.

[IcePacks]

Burer because (kinda) old school.


I wanted to say IcePacks, but I can't when I know I got him at least once with a circular saw during a rev round.

facka you

[Amelius]

This thread is kind of made worse by allowing votes for people who don't play/were good pre late2014/2015

The game was a lot different

The game was a lot better, you mean?

[ColonicAcid]

eyyyyyy

[Oldman Robustin]

Rob Ust once killed me instantly with acid.

The other dozen times I encountered him I tore him a new asshole barehanded. He really had no close combat skill he just abused acid and ebows while they were op.

Oldman has shitty twitch these days he just has better tactics than most people and sticks to them without getting bored.

Well sometimes I'm playing at work with no sounds/effective hotkeys/decent aspect ratio resolution.

Other times (like when you tazed me today) I just sit there waiting for someone to attack me just because I'm bored out of my mind and want to see where things take me.

Other times I've got my legs on my desk, reclined, and typing with one arm through one of my legs.

But e-e-excuses aside, you're right that my reactions aren't anything special.

Edit Edit: I also fucking hate how I often forget about the one clutch item I bought just for that round. My biggest sin is adrenal implants. I only get them on rare occasions and them promptly completely forget about them... then some sec manages to stun me with his last taser round and I just sit there while he cuffs me only to realize a minute later... DAMNIT.

[rdght91]

Icepacks is really dangerous, even nigh unstopple when he's prepared and loaded up on anti-stun chems but he's not too hard to catch off guard. But he's so deadly when he's expecting you that I'd still pick him as overall the most robust I've seen.

I think I was briefly up there with polyacid before the nerf when I dunked an entire ops team alone, but I'm not very good at unarmed combat and pretty average with shootouts.

[Stickymayhem]

Rob Ust once killed me instantly with acid.

The other dozen times I encountered him I tore him a new asshole barehanded. He really had no close combat skill he just abused acid and ebows while they were op.

Oldman has shitty twitch these days he just has better tactics than most people and sticks to them without getting bored.

Well sometimes I'm playing at work with no sounds/effective hotkeys/decent aspect ratio resolution.

Other times (like when you tazed me today) I just sit there waiting for someone to attack me just because I'm bored out of my mind and want to see where things take me.

Fair enough I've just seen you use killfarms over doing a lot of travelling. I tend to do laps around the station because I'm not usually using a high damage weapon so I need more space to juke

[Oldman Robustin]

Also my vote would be for Tim Ebow.

I haven't seen him antag enough recently, but I know historically this guy was scary robust. Like just very, very consistent in using smart tactics/strategies while also being extremely effective in his combat movement/aiming. He was also a traitorbro, despite the fact he could make better use of your traitor gear than you, he'd work with you knowing that having someone watch your back as a tatertot is worth infinite TC.

Now it seems he primarily plays security but even then you can be damn sure that he's not going down easy.

There's no reason you would ever need a toolbelt as security, and it means you don't have a security belt

Errr....

I can understand some of the anti-toolbelt sentiment but (1) secbelts aren't that robust, you can only have one container open at a time and you've got more than enough space in your bag to have that be your "important sec shit" slot, (2) toolbelts are frequently very important for security. Malf, Traitor, and Subverted AI's are a very real security threat and grabbing some tools/gloves when AI/Borgs are acting shady is just common sense and can save many lives. Throwing all that utility away because of >Muh wardrobe is just silly.

[ColonicAcid]

yes because every time i see a policeman i go "nice insulated gloves and toolbelt officer." because they carry that shit due to sometimes the elevator breaking and they need to fix that SHIT ASAP to catch the criminal.
They don't call the firefighters or an elevator engineer to fix the problem nope they fix it themselves.

If it's malf, I stay put and let the engineers deal with it. They're there for a reason, I'm here for another reason. You can pretend to be a one man army, I can pretend to not be a one man army and just do my job and only my job.

[Cheimon]

yes because every time i see a policeman i go "nice insulated gloves and toolbelt officer." because they carry that shit due to sometimes the elevator breaking and they need to fix that SHIT ASAP to catch the criminal.
They don't call the firefighters or an elevator engineer to fix the problem nope they fix it themselves.

If it's malf, I stay put and let the engineers deal with it. They're there for a reason, I'm here for another reason. You can pretend to be a one man army, I can pretend to not be a one man army and just do my job and only my job.

Hah. If the AI is malfunctioning, your job is to help protect the crew in whatever way you can. If you can get to the AI and kill it, that's what you need to do. Sitting on your arse waiting for the engineers to sort it out (remember, the guys you trust not to release the singularity) might as well be telling the AI 'go on, kill the crew, I don't care'. If you can't get to the AI, you can still help out in other ways: work on killing the cyborgs, for example (this is something you're already well equipped to do) or strategically breaking cameras.

[Luke Cox]

If it's malf, I stay put and let the engineers deal with it.

>AI is a threat to the safety of the crew
>Silicon-wrecking ion rifle in brig
>Let unarmed engineers handle it

You are a terrible security officer

[ColonicAcid]

Hahaha epic dude putting words in my mouth xd I love this meme and I love your special Olympics medal in mental gymnastics.

No, I never said I was going to sit around with a finger up my ass. What I did say was that breaking into the AIs core is not my job. If a borg is going ape shit yeah I'll go fuck him up, I don't need a toolbelt nor insulated gloves to do that. If you're going to keep presuming and assuming and putting words in other people's mouth I'm not even going to bother m8.

And if you're going to say that I'm a terrible security officer I can get you a dozen and more people saying that my security is pretty good but you know
>average sybil player in charge of making intellectual statements

[Falamazeer]

>Average basil officer making broad statements about how security should function.
Dude, Fuck off.
We're not playing the same game.

Take your high minded ideas over to sybil so a random doucher can cram them up your asshole and then honk at you.

[Scones]

Colonic just shitposts a ton, best to ignore him because he'll make a buttbaby storm when he isn't winning whatever asinine argument is the meme of the day

Basil practically isn't even /tg/ considering the stylistic differences; they don't understand the "robust or be robusted" mindset of respectable populations, but it's not worth your time arguing it. It is a war of attrition that is not worth engaging yourself in.

Anyways, some player talk:
- I think Oldman is above average but just knows the best way to win, I've definitely outshot him and seen him get straight outplayed during actual combats
- Rob was actually pretty decent mechanically but was definitely on the bleeding edge of exploiting OP stuff 24/7. First it was Chemistry, then Xenobiology, then Botany, and he raised hell with all of them
- MMMiracles gets honorable mention from me just because they more or less taught me how to play fighting me as a traitor over and fucking over again in one particular hallway on Eff3

Can we get this thread off Security philosophy and back to a discussion about how good we are at shooting each other in space? The discussion is, has been, and will always be armchair sec/basil "sec" vs security players, which is just fucking pointless to the maximum.

[Laharl Monthy]

I'm probably one of the least robust people around here, but...

I'd say Oldman, and Tim Ebow. I still remember that standoff in maint, jesus.

Also Pax is someone you do NOT want to fuck with. Randy Savage also falls in that category, but I haven't seen him in a while.

[DemonFiren]

I miss Ty Andrews.

[ColonicAcid]

>Average basil officer making broad statements about how security should function.
Dude, Fuck off.
We're not playing the same game.

Take your high minded ideas over to sybil so a random doucher can cram them up your asshole and then honk at you.

This isn't the "sybil buttbaby thread" so my points are still valid as ever, try again.

Lol @ scones, nice dismissal there friend.

[lumipharon]

Your job is not to stop antags.
Your job is to keep the peace in the station, if that means dealing with antags, so be it, if it means mediating between crewmembers, so be it.
Your job is not solely to stop antags, it never has, it never (hopefully) will be.

This so much. Fuck off with the antag hunter mindset. That is what makes this game dull as shit.
Yes, you can ruthlessly hunt and and execute every traitor in 10 minutes. Good for you, now enjoy your shitty dull round while you sit with your dick in your hand.
It's not even roleplay, it's simply playing a multiplayer game - as in, it's not just about you.

[Scott]

Antag hunting is ruining tg.

[QuartzCrystal]

Burer and Dante.

[Not-Dorsidarf]

We need the robust people to stop playing sec every round.

The best sec dudes used to not play sec because they had no chance of antag

But now they just turn on antag and roll sec every round, guaranteed to get a shitload of dunking in whether they roll tator or not

[Scones]

We need the robust people to stop playing sec every round.

The best sec dudes used to not play sec because they had no chance of antag

But now they just turn on antag and roll sec every round, guaranteed to get a shitload of dunking in whether they roll tator or not

There are good players on both sides.

[ThanatosRa]

Burer because (kinda) old school.


I wanted to say IcePacks, but I can't when I know I got him at least once with a circular saw during a rev round.

facka you

ayy fuk u