It's not resolved, because the host continues to readd secborgs and claiming it's something to do with the administration and nothing to do with secborgs despite that being the dumbest thing I've ever heard come out of anyone's mouth
maybe I'll code and add a MLP race and just claim I'm doing it to revitalise the administration so they talk in IRC, it'd be about the same level of retardation
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eggborg was in fact the concentrated jerking off of people who hated secborg but had to rub it in after they got secborg removed but it got a really cute sprite so people liked it anyway
maybe i should keep this thread open so cosmic posts in that way more
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Again, secborgs aren't the godslaying demigods you chucklefucks keep making them out to be, and the only time they'd be an administration issue is if the admins were so fucking shit/lazy that they couldn't be bothered to correct/ban people improperly using secborgs.
All this hyperbolic bullshit about secborgs being the axis everything in every round revolved around is dumb and only serves to make shit even messier.
Kor wrote:We tried "secborg but we nerf it over and over" that is what eggborg is.
Totally untrue. Eggborg was coded when secborgs were removed to mock the anti-siliconers, being a completely useless module that literally dispenses hugs and cookies and soft assurances that life is good. The hugbox module. Eventually it was tweaked into being decent at passive anti-harm, but the original design was for just a useless hugbox module.
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oranges wrote:
it's funny to see a player who joined in 2013 tell someone who has been around since forever what the games "intended dynamic" is
Hi gatekeeper of design and intent, please advise us what regdate is required to have a valid opinion ITT
nthing that eggborg is and always has been a joke at silicon player's expense, its not impossible to make them into a functional borg module, even as a "replacement" for secborgs but it requires maintainers (cough cough oranges) to agree that that is the intended direction for them and not just meme about it.
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Just make secborgs a researched module that needs materials.
Give robotics something to do
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leave the eggborgs alone arm their sprite is too cute to remove QaQ
all shitposting aside i originally gave them guns that slowed but the same thing with secborgs happened so they were removed (wow i thought players would use it to prevent harmful people from chasing their targets but instead it was used to hunt people down how wrong i was!!)
might give them a damage dampening field instead of just projectile dampening field in the future if it doesn't get shot dow nfor balance reasons.
Qbopper wrote:just fix peacekeeper borgs and make them actually capable of stopping harm while not making them robot security officers
As has been said in this thread multiple times, PRs to make peacekeepers not a joke or to make sec borgs lessened get insta-closed because of the general attitude surrounding secborgs
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Qbopper wrote:just fix peacekeeper borgs and make them actually capable of stopping harm while not making them robot security officers
As has been said in this thread multiple times, PRs to make peacekeepers not a joke or to make sec borgs lessened get insta-closed because of the general attitude surrounding secborgs
And because oranges shoots down almost all changes to them. I would accept secborgs being removed in a second if PK borgs could actually do their job better than the standard module.
Removing the ability for borgs to drag cuffed people without resistance might also help, it means you can cuff someone to stop the harm but you cant drag them to sec without them running.
Qbopper wrote:just fix peacekeeper borgs and make them actually capable of stopping harm while not making them robot security officers
As has been said in this thread multiple times, PRs to make peacekeepers not a joke or to make sec borgs lessened get insta-closed because of the general attitude surrounding secborgs
i know that but the solution is to tell the maintainers closing them to man eat a dong
Does that mean something will change if you keep asking them over and over with the other fifty nerds doing the same thing after year(s) of secbot absence?
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The guy who originally came up with peacekeeper borgs did so genuinely, not to mock or taunt ex-secborg players, for the record.
Luke Cox wrote:After the recent test, secborgs have been removed. Many people saw them as OP and game-breaking, but I feel like their removal has left a void that should be filled. Here's my proposal: the Peacekeeper borg. Unlike the secborg that was made to do security's job, this borg is designed strictly with conflict prevention and resolution in mind. As such, it has absolutely no hard stuns or restraints.
Items include
Energy bola launcher - For slowing down harmful individuals so that their targets can escape
Flash - To make people drop their weapons. Blinds when hacked.
Sedative injector - For when people get a little too unruly. Injects a non-harmful dose of a chemical that makes the subject dizzy and off-balance. Injects chloral or another toxin when hacked.
Energy barrier - Deploys a shield wall where the borg is standing in order to block energy projectile fire only. Electrocutes on contact when hacked.
Cookie dispenser - Sometimes people just need something to brighten their day. Poisoned when hacked.
HARM ALARM! - Functions like the ling's shriek, but weaker. Notifies the AI when used. Deafens when hacked.
Appearance: Lots of round shapes, padded chaises. No points or corners. Light pink and/or soft blue colors.
In my experience secborg players considered themselves a central force of the game who make or break rounds.
They did not contribute much to the interesting parts of the game (since the only thing they can do is shut down antags) and the removal has improved gameplay.
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PKPenguin321 wrote:The guy who originally came up with peacekeeper borgs did so genuinely, not to mock or taunt ex-secborg players, for the record.
Luke Cox wrote:After the recent test, secborgs have been removed. Many people saw them as OP and game-breaking, but I feel like their removal has left a void that should be filled. Here's my proposal: the Peacekeeper borg. Unlike the secborg that was made to do security's job, this borg is designed strictly with conflict prevention and resolution in mind. As such, it has absolutely no hard stuns or restraints.
Items include
Energy bola launcher - For slowing down harmful individuals so that their targets can escape
Flash - To make people drop their weapons. Blinds when hacked.
Sedative injector - For when people get a little too unruly. Injects a non-harmful dose of a chemical that makes the subject dizzy and off-balance. Injects chloral or another toxin when hacked.
Energy barrier - Deploys a shield wall where the borg is standing in order to block energy projectile fire only. Electrocutes on contact when hacked.
Cookie dispenser - Sometimes people just need something to brighten their day. Poisoned when hacked.
HARM ALARM! - Functions like the ling's shriek, but weaker. Notifies the AI when used. Deafens when hacked.
Appearance: Lots of round shapes, padded chaises. No points or corners. Light pink and/or soft blue colors.
The fact that it was nerfed to joke status is sad. Harm prevention tools are neat, require creativity, and cant really be used to validhunt as effectively, I hope the PK borg can be returned to that level.
oranges wrote:dimentio would not face me in a 1v1 with him as a grey shirt and me as a secborg in the thunderdome
Ah the can't beat it while naked argument has grown to involve facing it in a vast open shooting range.
DEEPLY insightful I am completely swayed now let's rig the bridge to self destruct if I knock on a window.
This, you literally can't find an arena that favors the secborg more than a big empty room with no cover and no exit.
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"The amount of people is the amount of times the sound is played... on top of itself. And with sybil populations on the shuttle..."
-Remie Richards
"I just spent all fucking day playing fallen london and sunless sea and obsessing over how creepy the fucking dawn machine is and only just clocked now that your avatar is the fucking dawn machine. Nobody vote for this disgusting new sequence blasphemer he wants to kill the gods"
-Stickymayhem
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-DarkFNC
"Penguins are the second race to realise 2D>3D"
-Anonmare
"Paul Blart mall cops if they all had ambitions of joining the Waffen-SS"
-Anonmare
"These logs could kill a dragon much less a man"
-Armhulenn
">7 8 6
WHAT MADNESS IS THIS? POETIC ANARCHY!"
-Wyzack
"We didn't kick one goofball out only to have another one come in like a fucking revolving door"
-Kraseo
"There's a difference between fucking faggots and being a fucking faggot."
-Anonmare
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-lntigracy
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">Paying over a $1000 for a lump of silicon and plastic
Lol"
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CosmicScientist wrote: egg will make more players sad. Don't give them stuns, Kekhi can tell you what backlash occurs due to validhunting.
The same people who bitch about validhunting from secborgs are the same people who bitch about validhunting from the AI, non-secborg borgs, the clown's PDA and a laundry list of other ided bullshit. People get sad when their "esword the hallways" antics are shut down by literally anything and look for an excuse to lash out.
CosmicScientist wrote: egg will make more players sad. Don't give them stuns, Kekhi can tell you what backlash occurs due to validhunting.
The same people who bitch about validhunting from secborgs are the same people who bitch about validhunting from the AI, non-secborg borgs, the clown's PDA and a laundry list of other ided bullshit. People get sad when their "esword the hallways" antics are shut down by literally anything and look for an excuse to lash out.
This is a highly dismissive generalization and clearly not the actual motive behind wanting to keep secborgs gone, and you might know that if you'd actually consider reading just about anything I've written.
CosmicScientist wrote: egg will make more players sad. Don't give them stuns, Kekhi can tell you what backlash occurs due to validhunting.
The same people who bitch about validhunting from secborgs are the same people who bitch about validhunting from the AI, non-secborg borgs, the clown's PDA and a laundry list of other ided bullshit. People get sad when their "esword the hallways" antics are shut down by literally anything and look for an excuse to lash out.
The same people who validhunt as secborgs are the same people who validhunt as AI, non-secborg borgs, clown PDA holders and a laundry list of other ided bullshit. People get sad when their "underpowered silicon" antics are shut down by literally any coder and look for an excuse to lash out.
Fuck off cedar, you don't play ball and you just hard line.
This thread is just making more and more bad fee fees and has no future unless forced into a conclusion by the powers that are in control of delete post and lock.