[atlantaned] Odhisius - bombs went off 10 seconds early

[HeatherK]

Byond account and character name: Odhisius - Heather Kelly
Banning admin: Atlantaned
Ban type (What are you banned from?): global
Ban reason and length: maxcaps went off 10 seconds before round ended
Time ban was placed (including time zone): 22:30 GMT
Your side of the story: C'mon man, 10 seconds before the round ended, all the baddies were already killed, and I didn't even start the fight.
Why you think you should be unbanned: Ten seconds, man. Ten. Sure maybe worth a day or two ban for a repeat offense but not a 1 week ban for that happening 10 seconds before the round ended.

[oranges]

>get banned for thing

>after ban, do exact same thing the day you get unbanned

Seriously man, you're lucky it's not a perma

here's a guide
https://tgstation13.org/wiki/Guide_to_avoiding_bans

[Atlanta-Ned]

You cannot detonate bombs on the station as a nonantag during the round. 10 minutes, 10 seconds, it doesn't matter.

What boggles my mind is that we just got through this, less than a week ago.

This is starting to look like a pattern.

[Okand37]

If we let people off because they did something '10 seconds' before the round off, then that allows other people to use it as leverage 'oh well its 11 seconds off, 12.. 13...' and so forth.

It is not a very hard thing to ask of you to not detonate bombs as a nonantagonist unless there is proper reasoning or the round has officially ended, please just do not do it!

[Saegrimr]

No Manderville Man would allow his timing to be less than perfect.

[Xhagi]

No Manderville Man would allow his timing to be less than perfect.

Never has a more true statement been said.

Anyway, 10 seconds is still 10 seconds before the round ended, fuck off if you can't even control yourself for just a little bit longer to explode everything.

[HeatherK]

So if we're going to be going by the "you can't x as non antag before the round ends", how come the chaplain wasn't banned for murdering me before the round ended?

And to go into more details. I had the deadman switch rigged up so I could bumrush the nuke ops and snackbar them. As we've all been stranded and I'm no longer needing it, I'm walking around and away to dismantle said deadman's switch. Only to get murderboned by the chaplain for noraisin. Yet once again. Ten seconds. After the shuttle's left, all antags are dead and we're stranded.

[Atlanta-Ned]

Whoops, didn't even notice the chaplain. All I saw were notifications that a bunch of bombs had gone off. Do you remember who the chaplain was?

[HeatherK]

Uhh, it began with N-something, was three letters with a hyphen and another three, like N**-***.

Though I will say in his defence, I saw him with the sword and disarmed him for a joke, but after that he murdered the shit out of me.

[Atlanta-Ned]

Alright, well now that I've pulled the logs leading up to you asploding:

[22:28:08]ATTACK: Heather Kelly(odhisius) attempted to touch Unknown(zackthezapper) (NEWHP: 74)(148,130,1)
[22:28:11]ATTACK: Heather Kelly(odhisius) disarmed Unknown([REDACTED]) (NEWHP: 74)(148,131,1)
[22:28:11]ATTACK: Unknown([REDACTED]) punched Heather Kelly(odhisius) (NEWHP: 84.47)(147,130,1)
[22:28:13]ATTACK: Heather Kelly(odhisius) disarmed Unknown([REDACTED]) (NEWHP: 74)(148,130,1)
[22:28:16]ATTACK: Unknown([REDACTED]) disarmed Heather Kelly(odhisius) (NEWHP: 84.47)(147,130,1)
[22:28:16]ATTACK: Jayson Russell(daxxed) shot ash drake with the kinetic force (NEWHP: 2180)(181,63,5)
[22:28:18]ATTACK: Heather Kelly(odhisius) disarmed Unknown([REDACTED]) (NEWHP: 74)(148,129,1)
[22:28:18]ATTACK: Unknown([REDACTED]) punched Heather Kelly(odhisius) (NEWHP: 76.47)(147,130,1)
[22:28:19]ATTACK: Unknown([REDACTED]) punched Heather Kelly(odhisius) (NEWHP: 72.47)(147,130,1)
[22:28:20]ATTACK: Unknown([REDACTED]) attempted to touch Heather Kelly(odhisius) (NEWHP: 72.47)(147,130,1)

Just a dumb slapfight, until...

[22:28:20]ATTACK: Heather Kelly(odhisius) attacked Unknown([REDACTED]) with dark blade(INTENT: DISARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 56)(148,129,1)
[22:28:36]SAY: Heather Kelly/Odhisius : What you gonna do, stab me?
[22:28:39]ATTACK: Heather Kelly(odhisius) slipped NON-EXISTANT SUBJECT on banana peel
[22:28:42]SAY: Heather Kelly/Odhisius : Bring it

Ya blew it. Quality de-escalation. You knew exactly what you were doing.

[22:28:40]ATTACK: Unknown([REDACTED]) attacked Heather Kelly(odhisius) with dark blade(INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 54.47)(148,129,1)
[22:28:41]ATTACK: Unknown([REDACTED]) attacked Heather Kelly(odhisius) with dark blade(INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 36.47)(148,129,1)
[22:28:42]ATTACK: Unknown([REDACTED]) attacked Heather Kelly(odhisius) with dark blade(INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 23.47)(148,129,1)
[22:28:43]ATTACK: Unknown([REDACTED]) attacked Heather Kelly(odhisius) with dark blade(INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 5.47)(148,129,1)
[22:28:44]ATTACK: Unknown([REDACTED]) attacked Heather Kelly(odhisius) with dark blade(INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -12.53)(148,129,1)
[22:28:46]ATTACK: Unknown([REDACTED]) attacked Heather Kelly(odhisius) with dark blade(INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -25.53)(148,129,1)
[22:28:46]GAME: Bomb valve opened in Starboard Primary Hallway(158,127,1) with The remote signaling device attacher: Odhisius/(Heather Kelly) Last touched by: Odhisius/(Heather Kelly)
[22:28:46]GAME: Bomb valve opened in Starboard Primary Hallway(158,127,1) with The remote signaling device attacher: Odhisius/(Heather Kelly) Last touched by: Odhisius/(Heather Kelly)
[22:28:46]GAME: Bomb valve opened in Starboard Primary Hallway(158,127,1) with The remote signaling device attacher: Odhisius/(Heather Kelly) Last touched by: Odhisius/(Heather Kelly)
[22:28:47]ATTACK: Unknown([REDACTED]) attacked Heather Kelly(odhisius) with dark blade(INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -43.53)(148,129,1)
[22:28:48]ATTACK: Unknown([REDACTED]) attacked Heather Kelly(odhisius) with dark blade(INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -61.53)(148,129,1)
[22:28:48]GAME: Explosion with size (5, 10, 20, 0) in area Starboard Primary Hallway (148,129,1)

And then everything exploded.

[HeatherK]

Once again, see that it says disarm, I picked it up as it was on the same square as him because i was just frantically clicking on him to keep him disarmed. That banana peel was in arrivals and completely irrelevant to the scrap.
I'd have sided with you and said "okay fine you got me" if the logs showed that I was repeatedly attacking the chaplain with his sword, but I promptly dropped it after one misclick.

Also if disarming someone is apparently starting a fight, does that mean the clown is getting in a fight with nearly everybody every single round when they slap something out of their hands?

[Saegrimr]

What did we learn?

[IrishWristWatch0]

No this is why the chaplain isn't being banned'

[22:28:36]SAY: Heather Kelly/Odhisius : What you gonna do, stab me?
[22:28:42]SAY: Heather Kelly/Odhisius : Bring it

[HeatherK]

No this is why the chaplain isn't being banned'

[22:28:36]SAY: Heather Kelly/Odhisius : What you gonna do, stab me?
[22:28:42]SAY: Heather Kelly/Odhisius : Bring it

Alright, fair enough on that one. Frankly, I figured I could've kept slapping it out of his hands long enough to let the round time end, but he got me good.

[Cobby]

you seem to understand now that running around with a deadman switch like that is a COLOSSALLY awful idea

"I had the deadman switch rigged up so I could bumrush the nuke ops and snackbar them."

I'm just going to jobban you from science, which you can apply for an unban for in a separate thread. You clearly have no intention of following the simple request of not making these, so i'll just bar you from making bombs at all.

If I see a TTV-bomb on your persona while this ban is in place i'll just extend the jobban to a gameban.