[borisvanmemes] Sanator - jobbanned from silicons

[Sanator]

Byond account and character name: Sanator, character was S.A.N.#33
Banning admin:Borisvanmemes
Ban type (What are you banned from?): Got jobbaned from silicons
Ban reason and length: Got banned for permastunning a guy by dragging a beepsky to lavaland
Time ban was placed (including time zone): 2018-09-20 14:10:15 (servertime)
Server you were playing when banned (Sybil or Bagil): Sybil
Why you think you should be unbanned: I got both jobbaned and banned for some reason?

[Arianya]

Locked until the current round ends. Please do not make ban appeals for ongoing rounds.

[Sanator]

Still waiting on a response...

[Arianya]

Full ban reason:

Banned from AI, Cyborg, pAI - Was killed by a QM in the armory while a traitor clown, was later borged and dragged armsky all the way to lavaland to chainstun the QM while they died due to lack of air.

[Arianya]

Hi,

As far as I can tell, you're asking if you should have been both jobbaned and server banned? Because so far as I can tell this was indeed intentional.

[FantasticFwoosh]

Said QM here ?

ckey: FantasticFwoosh // Morgan Cucker QM
round id: 94117
Map: Metastation, Sybil (not exactly sure when, but a two hour round by that point earlier today in the ban's timestamp)

For a full round of context, 'Honky' the clown which is their undeclared in round name they didnt put into the OP prior to being a cyborg initially was a traitor that i intercepted after they screamed for help. As it so would happen they had emagged their way into armory and had been rendered helpless on the floor, seizing my chance i decided to save security a job and put two lethal shots to the mouth then leave (i was within my right, he was both valid and i was 'reposessing' his emag to use, under the assumption he would have shot us all up with the eguns he was taking before getting chainstunned) there was no doubt the clown had done it since the population numbers were very low and the emag was found on the clown's person and also a empty brig.

The clown's body was eventually retrieved by others because it was being a earsore to the radio with seargant armsky battering it constantly, i argued not to revive the traitor clown but figured a good hour had gone by so there was probably no harm and forgot all about it to do my own thing wherein apparently they got borged to join another set of silicons that'd been formed. (i was unaware of the clown being revived as a borg directly, comms were flakey due to power and events)

So the round went on, i did things like organise cargo to import helpful objects like insulateds, inducers & Pacmans & repair the broken brig & armory doors with the rest of the supportive crew, much time later i was doing some building on lavaland to the auxillary base when SAL the borg came to visit me, dragging armsky behind me to stunlock me and attempted to take away my communications (there was a open mic wall intercomm nearby incase i needed to chat due to comm failures, they eventually turned that off after my screams kept broadcasting) and my clothes before (as i saw as a ghost later) bolting me inside a atmosless room to choke to death. All while on pure asimov which was gathering a lot of other ghost attention and i made my ahelp.

They then proceeded to talk very IC OOCly later about how id contacted the admins on them in binary chat. They then went to dispose of their clown body so that the roboticist link couldnt be made to the borg via chapel mass driver, i dont know if they were aware i mentioned it in deadchat or someone had told them or they just remembered.

This last part i find particularly iffy because i've had metagrudging ahelpable instances occur before towards me in lowpop sybil, but right now can't substantiate that anything was premeditated and that this isn't just reactionary to me legitimately dunking them throughly near the start of the round in which a healthy dose of rule 10 to take it with sportsmanship and don't abuse their second chance at life 2 hours in to dedicate it to killing me over something petty. That's assuming they came back or had been languishing in deadchat the entire time.

[Boris]

A tad late but here i am,
The jobban was for breaking asimov, it's a month long due to the fact that you have notes about doing this before, the dayban itself was for killing the QM.

[Boris]

Attack logs that matter somewhat., https://tgstation13.org/parsed-logs/syb ... ound-94117

2018-09-19 10:25:11.016] Starting up round ID 94117.
[2018-09-19 10:25:11.017] -------------------------
[2018-09-19 10:31:14.116] ATTACK: FantasticFwoosh/(Morgan Cucker) has thrown the synthesizer (Dormitories (137, 165, 2))
[2018-09-19 10:31:20.243] ATTACK: *no key*/(Sergeant-at-Armsky) has stunned Sanator/(Honky) (NEWHP: 100) (Armory (109, 180, 2))
[2018-09-19 10:31:28.238] ATTACK: *no key*/(Sergeant-at-Armsky) has stunned Sanator/(Honky) (NEWHP: 100) (Armory (109, 180, 2))
[2018-09-19 10:31:33.662] ATTACK: FantasticFwoosh/(Morgan Cucker) has thrown the leather satchel (Dormitories (139, 168, 2))
[2018-09-19 10:31:36.241] ATTACK: *no key*/(Sergeant-at-Armsky) has stunned Sanator/(Honky) (NEWHP: 100) (Armory (109, 180, 2))
[2018-09-19 10:31:44.239] ATTACK: *no key*/(Sergeant-at-Armsky) has stunned Sanator/(Honky) (NEWHP: 100) (Armory (109, 180, 2))
[2018-09-19 10:31:52.238] ATTACK: *no key*/(Sergeant-at-Armsky) has stunned Sanator/(Honky) (NEWHP: 100) (Armory (109, 180, 2))
[2018-09-19 10:32:00.241] ATTACK: *no key*/(Sergeant-at-Armsky) has stunned Sanator/(Honky) (NEWHP: 100) (Armory (109, 180, 2))
[2018-09-19 10:32:08.239] ATTACK: *no key*/(Sergeant-at-Armsky) has stunned Sanator/(Honky) (NEWHP: 100) (Armory (109, 180, 2))
[2018-09-19 10:32:16.239] ATTACK: *no key*/(Sergeant-at-Armsky) has stunned Sanator/(Honky) (NEWHP: 100) (Armory (109, 180, 2))
[2018-09-19 10:32:24.245] ATTACK: *no key*/(Sergeant-at-Armsky) has stunned Sanator/(Honky) (NEWHP: 100) (Armory (109, 180, 2))
[2018-09-19 10:32:32.238] ATTACK: *no key*/(Sergeant-at-Armsky) has stunned Sanator/(Honky) (NEWHP: 100) (Armory (109, 180, 2))
[2018-09-19 10:32:40.481] ATTACK: *no key*/(Sergeant-at-Armsky) has stunned Sanator/(Honky) (NEWHP: 100) (Armory (109, 180, 2))
[2018-09-19 10:32:48.486] ATTACK: *no key*/(Sergeant-at-Armsky) has stunned Sanator/(Honky) (NEWHP: 100) (Armory (109, 180, 2))
[2018-09-19 10:32:56.480] ATTACK: *no key*/(Sergeant-at-Armsky) has stunned Sanator/(Honky) (NEWHP: 100) (Armory (109, 180, 2))
[2018-09-19 10:33:04.481] ATTACK: *no key*/(Sergeant-at-Armsky) has stunned Sanator/(Honky) (NEWHP: 100) (Armory (109, 180, 2))
[2018-09-19 10:33:12.478] ATTACK: *no key*/(Sergeant-at-Armsky) has stunned Sanator/(Honky) (NEWHP: 100) (Armory (109, 180, 2))
[2018-09-19 10:33:20.480] ATTACK: *no key*/(Sergeant-at-Armsky) has stunned Sanator/(Honky) (NEWHP: 100) (Armory (109, 180, 2))
[2018-09-19 10:33:28.481] ATTACK: *no key*/(Sergeant-at-Armsky) has stunned Sanator/(Honky) (NEWHP: 100) (Armory (109, 180, 2))
[2018-09-19 10:33:36.481] ATTACK: *no key*/(Sergeant-at-Armsky) has stunned Sanator/(Honky) (NEWHP: 100) (Armory (109, 180, 2))
[2018-09-19 10:33:44.480] ATTACK: *no key*/(Sergeant-at-Armsky) has stunned Sanator/(Honky) (NEWHP: 100) (Armory (109, 180, 2))
[2018-09-19 10:33:52.481] ATTACK: *no key*/(Sergeant-at-Armsky) has stunned Sanator/(Honky) (NEWHP: 100) (Armory (109, 180, 2))
[2018-09-19 10:34:00.481] ATTACK: *no key*/(Sergeant-at-Armsky) has stunned Sanator/(Honky) (NEWHP: 100) (Armory (109, 180, 2))
[2018-09-19 10:34:08.479] ATTACK: *no key*/(Sergeant-at-Armsky) has stunned Sanator/(Honky) (NEWHP: 100) (Armory (109, 180, 2))
[2018-09-19 10:34:16.481] ATTACK: *no key*/(Sergeant-at-Armsky) has stunned Sanator/(Honky) (NEWHP: 100) (Armory (109, 180, 2))
[2018-09-19 10:34:24.485] ATTACK: *no key*/(Sergeant-at-Armsky) has stunned Sanator/(Honky) (NEWHP: 100) (Armory (109, 180, 2))
[2018-09-19 10:34:32.481] ATTACK: *no key*/(Sergeant-at-Armsky) has stunned Sanator/(Honky) (NEWHP: 100) (Armory (109, 180, 2))
[2018-09-19 10:34:40.479] ATTACK: *no key*/(Sergeant-at-Armsky) has stunned Sanator/(Honky) (NEWHP: 100) (Armory (109, 180, 2))
[2018-09-19 10:34:48.478] ATTACK: *no key*/(Sergeant-at-Armsky) has stunned Sanator/(Honky) (NEWHP: 100) (Armory (109, 180, 2))
[2018-09-19 10:34:56.125] ATTACK: FantasticFwoosh/(Morgan Cucker) has stripped Giggles von Honkerton off Sanator/(Honky) (NEWHP: 100) (Armory (108, 178, 2))
[2018-09-19 10:34:56.478] ATTACK: *no key*/(Sergeant-at-Armsky) has stunned Sanator/(Honky) (NEWHP: 100) (Armory (109, 180, 2))
[2018-09-19 10:35:04.481] ATTACK: *no key*/(Sergeant-at-Armsky) has stunned Sanator/(Honky) (NEWHP: 100) (Armory (109, 180, 2))
[2018-09-19 10:35:12.480] ATTACK: *no key*/(Sergeant-at-Armsky) has stunned Sanator/(Honky) (NEWHP: 100) (Armory (109, 180, 2))
[2018-09-19 10:35:14.377] ATTACK: FantasticFwoosh/(Morgan Cucker) has fired at Sanator/(Honky) with [laser] from Armory (NEWHP: 100) (Armory (108, 178, 2))
[2018-09-19 10:35:14.380] ATTACK: FantasticFwoosh/(Morgan Cucker) has shot Sanator/(Honky) with [laser] (NEWHP: 0) (Armory (108, 178, 2))
[2018-09-19 10:35:20.480] ATTACK: *no key*/(Sergeant-at-Armsky) has stunned Sanator/(Honky) (NEWHP: 0) (Armory (109, 180, 2))
[2018-09-19 10:35:27.327] ATTACK: FantasticFwoosh/(Morgan Cucker) has fired at Sanator/(Honky) with [laser] from Armory (NEWHP: 0) (Armory (108, 178, 2))
[2018-09-19 10:35:27.333] ATTACK: FantasticFwoosh/(Morgan Cucker) has shot Sanator/(Honky) with [laser] (NEWHP: -100) (Armory (108, 178, 2))
[2018-09-19 10:35:28.479] ATTACK: *no key*/(Sergeant-at-Armsky) has stunned Sanator/(Honky) (NEWHP: -100) (Armory (109, 180, 2))
[2018-09-19 10:35:36.479] ATTACK: *no key*/(Sergeant-at-Armsky) has stunned *no key*/(Honky) (NEWHP: -100) (Armory (109, 180, 2))
[2018-09-19 10:35:44.480] ATTACK: *no key*/(Sergeant-at-Armsky) has stunned *no key*/(Honky) (NEWHP: -100) (Armory (109, 180, 2))
[2018-09-19 10:35:52.478] ATTACK: *no key*/(Sergeant-at-Armsky) has stunned *no key*/(Honky) (NEWHP: -100) (Armory (109, 180, 2))
[2018-09-19 10:35:56.302] ATTACK: FantasticFwoosh/(Morgan Cucker) has thrown Giggles von Honkerton (Quartermaster's Office (78, 151, 2))


[2018-09-19 13:48:01.877] ATTACK: Sanator/(S.A.N.#33) has grabbed *no key*/(Sergeant-at-Armsky) passive grab (NEWHP: 22) (Armory (107, 179, 2))
[2018-09-19 13:49:27.935] ATTACK: EldritchBaguette/(Forges-The-Cog) has thrown the high-capacity power cell (Robotics Lab (113, 85, 2))
[2018-09-19 13:51:13.541] ATTACK: Krab_Spider/(John Rhodes) has fired at [floor] with [orange bluespace beam] from Medbay Central (Medbay Central (91, 105, 2))
[2018-09-19 13:51:14.682] ATTACK: Krab_Spider/(John Rhodes) has fired at [wall] with [bluespace beam] from Medbay Central (Medbay Central (91, 104, 2))
[2018-09-19 13:53:03.422] ATTACK: Sanator/(S.A.N.#33) has attacked *no key*/(Sergeant-at-Armsky) with guitar[DC] (INTENT: HELP) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 17) (Cargo Office (80, 139, 2))
[2018-09-19 13:53:17.962] ATTACK: Astroserf/(Lurks-In-Maintenance) has thrown the integrated toolset implant (Medbay Storage (91, 109, 2))
[2018-09-19 13:53:20.241] ATTACK: Astroserf/(Lurks-In-Maintenance) has thrown the implanter (Medbay Storage (91, 109, 2))
[2018-09-19 13:54:05.012] ATTACK: Kiteme/(Boomer) has attacked [cyborg recharging station] with [light replacer] (Mech Bay (111, 88, 2))
[2018-09-19 13:54:06.058] ATTACK: Kiteme/(Boomer) has attacked [cyborg recharging station] with [light replacer] (Mech Bay (111, 88, 2))
[2018-09-19 13:54:07.562] ATTACK: Sanator/(S.A.N.#33) has grabbed *no key*/(Sergeant-at-Armsky) passive grab (NEWHP: 17) (Cargo Office (78, 139, 2))
[2018-09-19 13:54:11.814] ATTACK: Tau628/(Peter Parker) has grabbed *no key*/(corgi) passive grab (NEWHP: 20) (Kitchen (131, 122, 2))
[2018-09-19 13:54:19.889] ATTACK: Tau628/(Peter Parker) has attacked *no key*/(corgi) with sharpened kitchen knife[DC] (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 6) (Kitchen (142, 121, 2))
[2018-09-19 13:54:20.755] ATTACK: Tau628/(Peter Parker) has attacked *no key*/(corgi) with sharpened kitchen knife[DC] (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 0) (Kitchen (142, 121, 2))
[2018-09-19 13:54:34.618] ATTACK: loserwastaken/(Beckett Brandenburg) has thrown the large beaker (Syndicate Lavaland Chemistry (100, 148, 5))
[2018-09-19 13:54:36.500] ATTACK: loserwastaken/(Beckett Brandenburg) has attacked loserwastaken/(Beckett Brandenburg) with �Geiger counter[DC] (INTENT: HELP) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 81.3) (Syndicate Lavaland Chemistry (100, 148, 5))
[2018-09-19 13:54:45.102] ATTACK: *no key*/(Sergeant-at-Armsky) has stunned FantasticFwoosh/(Morgan Cucker) (NEWHP: 100) (public dock (92, 89, 5))
[2018-09-19 13:54:53.099] ATTACK: *no key*/(Sergeant-at-Armsky) has stunned FantasticFwoosh/(Morgan Cucker) (NEWHP: 100) (public dock (92, 89, 5))
[2018-09-19 13:54:59.536] ATTACK: Avunia/(Avunia Divum) has attacked [disposal pipe] with [air tank] (Aft Maintenance (116, 97, 2))
[2018-09-19 13:55:01.107] ATTACK: *no key*/(Sergeant-at-Armsky) has stunned FantasticFwoosh/(Morgan Cucker) (NEWHP: 100) (public dock (92, 89, 5))
[2018-09-19 13:55:02.201] ATTACK: Sanator/(S.A.N.#33) has stripped the mining radio headset off FantasticFwoosh/(Morgan Cucker) (NEWHP: 100) (public dock (94, 89, 5))
[2018-09-19 13:55:09.108] ATTACK: *no key*/(Sergeant-at-Armsky) has stunned FantasticFwoosh/(Morgan Cucker) (NEWHP: 100) (public dock (92, 89, 5))
[2018-09-19 13:55:17.111] ATTACK: *no key*/(Sergeant-at-Armsky) has stunned FantasticFwoosh/(Morgan Cucker) (NEWHP: 100) (public dock (92, 89, 5))
[2018-09-19 13:55:25.115] ATTACK: *no key*/(Sergeant-at-Armsky) has stunned FantasticFwoosh/(Morgan Cucker) (NEWHP: 100) (public dock (92, 89, 5))
[2018-09-19 13:55:32.311] ATTACK: Sanator/(S.A.N.#33) has stripped the explorer suit off FantasticFwoosh/(Morgan Cucker) (NEWHP: 100) (public dock (94, 88, 5))
[2018-09-19 13:55:33.115] ATTACK: *no key*/(Sergeant-at-Armsky) has stunned FantasticFwoosh/(Morgan Cucker) (NEWHP: 100) (public dock (92, 89, 5))
[2018-09-19 13:55:35.312] ATTACK: Sanator/(S.A.N.#33) has stripped the insulated gloves off FantasticFwoosh/(Morgan Cucker) (NEWHP: 100) (public dock (94, 88, 5))
[2018-09-19 13:55:35.763] ATTACK: Sanator/(S.A.N.#33) has stripped the explorer's webbing off FantasticFwoosh/(Morgan Cucker) (NEWHP: 100) (public dock (94, 88, 5))
[2018-09-19 13:55:36.160] ATTACK: Sanator/(S.A.N.#33) has stripped the tan suit off FantasticFwoosh/(Morgan Cucker) (NEWHP: 100) (public dock (94, 88, 5))
[2018-09-19 13:55:36.610] ATTACK: Sanator/(S.A.N.#33) has stripped the brown shoes off FantasticFwoosh/(Morgan Cucker) (NEWHP: 100) (public dock (94, 88, 5))
[2018-09-19 13:55:37.960] ATTACK: Sanator/(S.A.N.#33) has stripped the quartermaster's cloak off FantasticFwoosh/(Morgan Cucker) (NEWHP: 97) (public dock (94, 88, 5))
[2018-09-19 13:55:38.361] ATTACK: Sanator/(S.A.N.#33) has stripped the explorer gas mask off FantasticFwoosh/(Morgan Cucker) (NEWHP: 97) (public dock (94, 88, 5))
[2018-09-19 13:55:38.711] ATTACK: Sanator/(S.A.N.#33) has stripped the welding helmet off FantasticFwoosh/(Morgan Cucker) (NEWHP: 97) (public dock (94, 88, 5))
[2018-09-19 13:55:39.110] ATTACK: Sanator/(S.A.N.#33) has stripped the leather satchel off FantasticFwoosh/(Morgan Cucker) (NEWHP: 97) (public dock (94, 88, 5))
[2018-09-19 13:55:41.122] ATTACK: *no key*/(Sergeant-at-Armsky) has stunned FantasticFwoosh/(Morgan Cucker) (NEWHP: 94) (public dock (92, 89, 5))
[2018-09-19 13:55:49.121] ATTACK: *no key*/(Sergeant-at-Armsky) has stunned FantasticFwoosh/(Morgan Cucker) (NEWHP: 82) (public dock (92, 89, 5))
[2018-09-19 13:55:57.141] ATTACK: *no key*/(Sergeant-at-Armsky) has stunned FantasticFwoosh/(Morgan Cucker) (NEWHP: 70) (public dock (92, 89, 5))
[2018-09-19 13:56:05.140] ATTACK: *no key*/(Sergeant-at-Armsky) has stunned FantasticFwoosh/(Morgan Cucker) (NEWHP: 58) (public dock (92, 89, 5))
[2018-09-19 13:56:09.473] ATTACK: Sanator/(S.A.N.#33) has attacked FantasticFwoosh/(Morgan Cucker) with electric razor[DC] (INTENT: HELP) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 49) (public dock (94, 89, 5))

[FantasticFwoosh]

For clarity, my airtank was inside my explorer suit falling out onto the floor, as well as my gasmask to use it to breathe with taken away from me which id bought for myself using the service shaft miner kit pack from cargo and my QM access to get around and fill in some side-duties. Sanator seemed keen to enact some form of their own stylised poetic justice while killing me locked in stun by suffocation this way, they probably just wanted to stunlock me alive until i logged out but the atmos was too poor and i died.

Public dock was a area on lavaland connected to planetside auxillary base i had made for myself for the shuttle to land nearby, there wasn't any atmospherics there but it was sheltered and powered hence i was relying on my internals. 2 hours in so presumably they came back or had been waiting for 120 minutes just to do this from not too far away from roundstart, I lost quite a bit of progress and work as a result of this.

[Boris]

So, let's start a timeline of this, at round start you E-mag into the armory, is found by the QM, and kills you for being a traitor, then a long while later someone borgs you, so you drag armsky to them while they are in lavaland, they get stunned by armsky and you strip them of all their stuff, making them die due to the fact that they were in a room that had no air in it,

By removing his airtank and gasmask, you harmed a human, beaking your laws, so all in all, denied, the headmins can post if they want too.