Character name: ???
Ban type: server
Ban length: perma
Ban reason:
Server you were playing on when banne: I didn't
Round ID in which ban was placed: 130104 (pretty sure I didn't play it)
Time ban was placed: no idea
Your side of the story:
So I haven't played SS13 for a while, tried to login recently and got this message. Originally I got a week ban for abusing slimes + (from another admin) a 2 day ban that didn't cover the role so I even helped to fix it.
I'm pretty sure this is a case of a broken telephone. I would assume this ban is basically for making a stupid (maybe) joke about abusing slime on non RP servers:
This was may way of asking admins to clarify (in my ban note) the fact that bans were applied for abusing slime on RP server specifically. This was stated both by the admeme that role banned me:At the same time I don't really care for antag roles (most of the times I give them away, you can cheack ahelp logs. Actually, I have a plan for an epic abductors run but that's probably it.) Instead what I would like to happen is adding clarification to that ban note (or adding additional note) that clarifies that this activity is ok on low RP servers so I might continue my crusade on Event Hall without having to give a lengthy explanation to admeme if someone ahelps me :D
And other admeme (zxaber) at GitHub:I would like to point out that i was around the day before and you constantly take the anomaly slimes to do the exact same thing every time. Destroy the supermatter APC than the grav gen and the AI. I bwoinked you before killing the AI. Ruining the round for multiple players with a minor side antag to get your point across for a nerf.
Antagonism and murderboning.
You're an antag, great! Treat your role as an interesting challenge and not an excuse to destroy other people’s game experience. Your actions should make the game more fun, more exciting and more enjoyable for everyone; you can treat your objectives as suggestions on what you should attempt to achieve but you are also encouraged to ignore them if you've got a better idea. You do NOT have to act in a nefarious or evil way, but you are not allowed to just go on a silent rampage and eliminate all the players in a power trip. We're all here to have a good time, after all.
Just because you are a slime you are not exempt from this while playing on manuel, i expect some kind of escalation before going off to murder the AI and blow up engineering rendering the station uninhabitable unprovoked. This is not really making for fun game play for anyone but yourself.
Also in my thread about the "slimes op" issue many stated that the slime isn't broken and doesn't need any fix.That ban was due to actions on Manuel, which has extra restrictions on what antags can do. I assume that's critical to why the ban was made.
To be clear, I generally play on Bagil and Event Hall. On the light RP servers, slimes are considered full antags and full antags can do whatever.
The best part:
After I proved that the slime needs a fix half of the mods and coders told me to PR a fix (and learn to code :D ) so I made like 3 PRs at GitHub with slime nerfs but they all were voted down because people don't believe that slimes are too strong. But eventually I made a "soft fix" PR and it got merged This + the fact that also use to help dudes on other PRs with sprites and stuff kinda makes me believe that TG won't be better without me. Also I honestly can't understand why would anyone equate abusing op stuff to convince people that it needs a nerf(and then implementing it) with F-ING TERRORISM!
So the conclusion:
Welp. The quality of conversations that I had both on forum and at TG GitHub actually makes me sad. I have a lot of experience with maintaining large open source projects and dealing with "permanently confused" and salty people as admin/mod on a big board with a ton of pubescent kids... But this is something new for me. The fact that so many people kept telling me "learn to code/make a PR" when I linked it like in the post above the message. Or how people seems to infer intent for everything you do and the very worst intent they can come up with. Or even how many people just spam GitHub tickets with totally irrelevant information while they clearly didn't even read the code. Or how admemes retroactively apply perma bans for a joke on forum. I bet non of you even gonna read the message to this point (say if you did, I'm just curious). All this situation makes me want to take a shower X_X