Character name: Izabella Fraser / HolyC
Ban type: Server Ban for 1 day
Ban length: 1 day
Ban reason: "As non-antagonist asimov cyborg, patrook in minor griefing of medbay, being preventing people from doing surgery by shuffling them and taking the captain's corpse away from medbay. Was already noted for griefing behavior this very same round. Player was not online when ban was placed, feel free to explain yourselves on the forums."
Time ban was placed: 2022-12-21 09:16:37 (server time)
Server you were playing on when banned: Manuel
Round ID in which ban was placed: 196642
Your side of the story:
Admin Striders13 handled what I believe is a very minor ticket well after round end, and ended up giving me an extremely harsh note (and a day ban) I believe because I was not there to give my side of the story. Based on my past experiences with ahelps (as both the person getting in trouble and the one accusing someone else) it does not make sense to me such a minor complaint was being handled so long after the round ended.
My ban message (my notes in bold): "as non-antagonist asimov cyborg, partook in minor griefing of medbay, being preventing people from doing surgery by shuffling them (I believe I walked through someone doing surgery, as happens every round when medbay is crowded. This was not a thing I was doing deliberately or persistently and didn't meaningfully grief anyone. What evidence was used to justify a note for griefing?)and taking the captain's corpse away from medbay (100% factually untrue, after looking at the logs. After the captain got defibbed I carried them to cryo tube, but they ended up dying because I believe there was an issue with the room APC. After the captain died I gave up control of the body and didn't fight over it. It never left medbay and I never tried to take it from medbay or prevent treatment of it).. Was already noted for griefing behavior this very same round. (I got an MRP note for IC action, there no was "griefing" involved. My LRP actions ended up griefing me more than anyone that round [people escalated against me and took my shit multiple times, which I accepted as a consequence of my actions]) Player was not online when ban was placed (I had made an explicit point of waiting until the round was over, and joining the start of the next one, exactly to try to prevent something like this. I got a note for being LRP, and did the right thing and went to play on Sybil instead as a result of that.) , feel free to explain yourself on forums."
I am sure there will be some disagreement, but this seems like a very minor thing and also the type of thing I would pretty much never get a ban for if I was in game to respond to the admin. I want to know why it was such a seemingly minor ticket was being looked at so long after round end, and why such over the top action was taken. Considering the note has things that are objectively untrue if you look at the logs (I never even tried to remove the captain's corpse from medbay), how thoroughly was this ticket looked at before I was banned?
What ahelp(s) triggered Striders13 to login to Manuel and process the ticket involving me? Were there other open ahelps they also addressed at the time? Is it common for admins to look at this (low) severity of ticket so long after a round ends, and issue bans for something like this so long after the fact?
Detailed summary: Admin Striders13 handled what I believe is a very minor ticket well after round end, and ended up giving me an extremely harsh note (and a day ban) I believe because I was not there to give my side of the story. Based on my past experiences with ahelps (as both the person getting in trouble and the one accusing someone else) it does not make sense to me such a minor complaint was being handled so long after the round ended. I have a note/ban for "soft greifing" people by moving them during surgery, which I didn't do in any meaningful/intentional way (though I have no idea how this is proven/disproven). The other part of the note/ban is for dragging the captain's corpse "away from medbay" which the logs prove I did not do. I tried to drag a recently defibbed person to cryo and fucked that up due to unforeseen circumstances, then immediately gave them back to medbay staff to treat.
Why you think you should be unbanned: See above. Note inaccurate, completely one-sided. Was handled in a way where it was guaranteed to be one-sided. Whatever it is alleged I did had essentially no negative impact on anyone's round. I made a misjudgement and wasn't able to get captain to cryo in time, but if there weren't some weird shit going on with power it should have been 100% safe to do what I did. Even with the bad outcome, I maybe delayed a player's revival by about a minute (if that).
References of good conduct: I have a lot of hours played on /tg/ and my note history is pretty tame relative to how much I play.
Anything else we should know: This is supposed to be an Admin Complaint. My complaint is about the process of how it was handled (looking into something that had such little impact, so long delayed after round end, issuing a really one-sided judgement based off the situation Striders13 caused). Even if the ban is deemed valid (which I would not agree with) I think I should have some avenue to complain about the way this was handled by Striders13.
Edit: Here are all of my attack.txt actions after I became a cyborg that round:
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[2022-12-20 07:23:28.033] ATTACK: C12a23b02/(Irene Keener) attacked odosendai/(HolyC) with kiss (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 100) (Robotics Lab (122,115,2))
[2022-12-20 07:23:28.034] ATTACK: C12a23b02/(Irene Keener) fired at odosendai/(HolyC) with the kiss blown by Irene Keener from Robotics Lab (NEWHP: 100) (Robotics Lab (122,115,2))
[2022-12-20 07:26:05.774] ATTACK: odosendai/(HolyC) grabbed Shiveryadam/(Merli Lawniczak) passive grab (NEWHP: 100) (Aft Central Primary Hallway (144,105,2))
[2022-12-20 07:26:10.572] ATTACK: odosendai/(HolyC) broke grab Shiveryadam/(Merli Lawniczak) (NEWHP: 100) (Aft Central Primary Hallway (160,105,2))
[2022-12-20 07:27:21.510] ATTACK: odosendai/(HolyC) grabbed *no key*/(Izabella Fraser) passive grab (NEWHP: -100) (Cryogenics (166,83,2))
[2022-12-20 07:27:41.525] ATTACK: odosendai/(HolyC) has been tipped over by Thgvr/(Sudie-Rava). (Medbay Treatment Center (157,87,2))
[2022-12-20 07:27:41.525] ATTACK: Thgvr/(Sudie-Rava) has tipped over odosendai/(HolyC). (Medbay Treatment Center (156,86,2))
[2022-12-20 07:27:42.096] ATTACK: Thgvr/(Sudie-Rava) grabbed odosendai/(HolyC) passive grab (NEWHP: 100) (Medbay Treatment Center (156,86,2))
[2022-12-20 07:27:49.614] ATTACK: Sightld2/(Diskette B) grabbed odosendai/(HolyC) passive grab (NEWHP: 100) (Medbay Treatment Center (155,87,2))
[2022-12-20 07:29:29.010] ATTACK: Thgvr/(Sudie-Rava) failed to tip over odosendai/(HolyC) (Medbay Treatment Center (156,87,2))
[2022-12-20 07:29:51.565] ATTACK: Sightld2/(Diskette B) flashed odosendai/(HolyC) with the flash (NEWHP: 100) (Medbay Treatment Center (161,88,2))
[2022-12-20 07:29:55.548] ATTACK: BloodyChristmasMiracle/(Joe Colada) grabbed odosendai/(HolyC) passive grab (NEWHP: 100) (Medbay Treatment Center (160,90,2))
[2022-12-20 07:30:02.728] ATTACK: BloodyChristmasMiracle/(Joe Colada) flashed odosendai/(HolyC) with the flash (NEWHP: 100) (Aft Central Primary Hallway (144,104,2))