[Dreathil] Vespa1 - Banned

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Vespa1
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[Dreathil] Vespa1 - Banned

Post by Vespa1 » #580247

BYOND account: Vespa1
Character name: Harvey Guess
Ban type: Game Ban
Ban length: 3 Days
Ban reason: As Curator, barely interacted with crew, and uploaded a rather derogatory book, with rather racist remarks/reference at the end, and spammed the contents over newscaster during the round.
Time ban was placed: 09:56:07 2020-10-28
Server you were playing on when banned: Manuel
Round ID in which ban was placed: 149221
Your side of the story: I did as the ban reason states, thought it would be funny to do so
Why you think you should be unbanned: Well in all fairness, I didn't really mean to spam it over the newscaster, I was taking books from the archive and uploading them, i did this a couple times, The main issue I have with this is that I think a "hey don't do that" or a job ban would've been more appropriate for this infraction.
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Dreathtil
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Re: [Dreathil] Vespa1 - Banned

Post by Dreathtil » #580268

Thanks for taking the time to make this appeal

The full note reason
Regarding Manuel round 149216 - As Curator, barely interacted with crew, and uploaded a rather derogatory book with a rather Racist remark/reference at the end, and spammed the contents over Newscaster during the round. Appeal this on the forums if you want to explain yourself.

So the round in which the conduct you got banned for was Round 149216

At first You uploaded
https://scrubby.melonmesa.com/round/149 ... caster#2m0
Which was done a few times repeatedly.
The Book is labeled EASY PEASY BOMBS
TBH this was on the funnier side, it is still a call-out for making a grenade to bomb shuttle with and that you would be banned for making it. Much more acceptable of a joke on the LRP servers, and I'm pretty certain even on MRP its on the funnier side albeit a bit more serious, especially if you are spamming the book over newscaster

However
You then start spamming
https://scrubby.melonmesa.com/round/149 ... caster#2m4
Labeled The Truth
Which at first just looks like you reuploaded the early book. But you added this white supremacist chant at the end.
Spoiler:
My eyes have seen the glory of the trampling at the zoo, we washed ourselves in niggers blood, and all the mongrels too. We’re taking down the zog machine jew, by jew, by jew. the white man marches on.
Which its also important to note, that you uploaded this book to the book database as well

Even for LRP, let alone MRP this falls into a rule 11 judgement call
Bigotry is not allowed.
Intentionally seeking to demean others due to their actual or perceived race, sex, gender, orientation or the like is not tolerated.
It is not our goal to create or enforce a list of banned words and instead our goal to eject bigotry from the community. Enforcement will be less PC based and more common sense based with that goal in mind.
The above rule applies to ALL OOC bigotry, even when expressed in IC. There is no racism in 2560, just species-ism, There is no homophobia, just xenophiliapobia, etc.
Admins are encouraged to use rule 1 to deal with instances where """IC""" bigotry is excessive or designed as a mask for ooc bigotry.
I reviewed your conduct for the round, and seeing as you frequent Sybil, I gave you some benefit of the doubt as this is your first infraction. I'm pretty sure other of the usual Manuel-mins who could of handled this case would of straight up perma banned you.

That round had late joined and with how little there is of you in the game log (only 6 lines of dialogue during the round before alot of forced coughing,)

[2020-10-28 08:27:59.683] SAY: 08:27:59.683] SAY: Vespa1/(Harvey Guess) "hello" (Atrium (146,168,2))
[2020-10-28 08:28:12.239] SAY: 08:28:12.239] SAY: Vespa1/(Harvey Guess) "can i have a black russian" (Atrium (146,168,2))
[2020-10-28 08:28:43.433] SAY: 08:28:43.433] SAY: Vespa1/(Harvey Guess) "thank you" (Atrium (146,168,2))
[2020-10-28 08:33:21.283] SAY: 08:33:21.283] SAY: Vespa1/(Harvey Guess) "t" (Command Hallway (146,117,2))
[2020-10-28 08:37:20.105] SAY: 08:37:20.105] SAY: Vespa1/(Harvey Guess) "hey thanks" (Library (125,123,2))
[2020-10-28 08:41:05.658] SAY: 08:41:05.658] SAY: Vespa1/(Harvey Guess) "cya" (Library (129,119,2))

As It stands the initial ban included a 7 day curator ban. I will not be removing be removing the 3 day ban, seeing as I don't quite believe you understand what you did wrong. The book has also been deleted from the database
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Vespa1
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Re: [Dreathil] Vespa1 - Banned

Post by Vespa1 » #580277

Ah fair enough
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