BYOND account: prussen
Character name: Plazz Fire
Ban type: Server
Ban length: Permanent
Ban reason: During round 218196, engaged in an ingame funeral for an OOC in IC reason(the banning of another player), and told the staff members involved to kill themselves - continuing to do so even in deadchat. This behavior is not welcome on /tg/, and your quality of play is not acceptable. Prussen/(Plazz Fire) "i hope you will ee arr pee in heaven" (combined 3 lines) Prussen/(Plazz Fire) (DEAD) "cc kill youself"
Server you were playing on when banned: Terry
Round ID in which ban was placed: 218196
Reasons for Appealing
With this appeal I am seeking a removal, or reduction of my ban. I’ll keep this short for everyone’s sake.
I will take on the ban reason part by part.Logs that will be used: https://tgstation13.org/parsed-logs/ter ... 6/game.txt
I do not believe the funeral itself and the reasons behind it are OOC in IC. The captain (Jonashx / Jimmy Quark) hosted an IC funeral, with an IC reason and sticking to only IC terms. Everything was roleplayed out. Admins who were online at the time engaged with our funeral, both playing admin music (bagpipes for our fallen veteran) and spawning themselves in to join. (This is to bring an expert opinion) Later, some admins agreed that the funeral itself was IC and funerals for permabanned players are not inherently OOC in IC:engaged in an ingame funeral for an OOC in IC reason(the banning of another player)
(Timberpoes agreed to be quoted here)Timberpoes:
- "Ya. Funeral for their staticname is totally IC."
Discord message link: https://discord.com/channels/3268221442 ... 7759729805
I'd like to tackle this part of the note next:
This is simply not true, this is the only instance of me saying such, after I was already dead from suicide: Now when it comes to that message, I understand my mistake and do apologize to Justice for what I said if he did indeed believe I was targeting him with my comments. But that was not my intention. When I said that (even though some people don’t believe it) I meant it as a remark against Centcomm - the in game entity - and not the admin team, that is because we had spent the entire shift roleplaying that Centcomm had assasinated Talon. In the moment I didn’t realize how someone might interpret it differently until later - once the moment had passed.and told the staff members involved to kill themselves - continuing to do so even in deadchat.
Some people did take this too far and name dropped Justice, if I had seen them doing this I would have refrained from saying what I did. However, due to the chaos with the whole event, I only saw Jimmy's loudvoice on comms after I died and typed that message in.
I believe this is the main reason the ban was placed, and I probably shouldn't have said what I did because it could easily be taken as targeted harassment. After some reflection now that the heat of the moment has long passed, that statement was definitely inappropriate.
I don't really see anything wrong with this, Fikou made a headmin ruling stating that vocalizing "netspeak" was acceptable and not OOC in IC. If I had said something like "antag rolling" - a purely ingame OOC term - there would be cause to note me over it, but I don't believe TG invented ERP as some sort of a game mechanic...Prussen/(Plazz Fire) "i hope you will ee arr pee in heaven" (combined 3 lines)
Fikou's ruling: viewtopic.php?p=704879#p704879
Now for the part that really confuses me,
This seems like something completely out-of-the-blue slapped onto my ban reason. I have a more than decent history on this server (a total of around 5 low severity notes, most of them being about minor OOC in IC infractions - and the other thing which has become an urban legend, however is completely irrelevant here), no admin has ever told me that my quality of play was consistently below server standards. If somehow the admin team did believe this, I would disagree with them but I would have at least liked a message telling me about this issue (if it was an issue) so I could actually improve.and your quality of play is not acceptable.