[Ban Appeal][Trevoriousdafox] Ducky 'Dad' Johnson - CMO Perm Ban & Note
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[Ban Appeal][Trevoriousdafox] Ducky 'Dad' Johnson - CMO Perm Ban & Note
Your Byond ckey: KennyFlinger
Your character name: Ducky 'Dad' Johnson
Admin who banned you: Trevoriousdafox
Type of ban (What are you banned from?): CMO job ban
Ban duration: Permanent
Ban reason: "Deployed as CMO to the FOB to fight with a smartgun." - round ID: 214
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Your side of the story: State of the round in steps:
1. The round started being completely devoid of command staff (and players in general, 35-42'ish). It took 30-90 minutes in before we got a random captain to start doing everything himself.
2. People on the planet got pounded into the dirt in no time with ALL medics (and specialists) dying with exception of one incompetent one.
3. Medical was explosively overstaffed, counting 4 doctors idling myself NOT included: https://i.imgur.com/hjeIqCw.png
4. After 40-80+ minutes of idling in medical with around 1-2 patients ever being transported or beamed up and seeing how my fellow doctors were only capable of using the auto-doc, i decided to go down myself to try and quench the never-ending waves of deceased marines.
5. I explicitly stated this in commands comms and had the captain be the one bringing me down on the planet:
https://i.imgur.com/UI2qrST.png
https://i.imgur.com/cvO3CsG.png
6. I bring down ample medical supplies and a surgery kit with me down. I treated whoever needed it and then i proceeded to pick up an abandoned smartgun (that was lying on the floor) to idly take pot-shots on xenos behind multiple barricades covered by sentries (as they were understaffed & covering 3 angles) when everyone was at peak health to avoid friendly fire with my shit shooting skill.
7. I get bwoinked by this trial admin (initially by another admin) that proceeds to question what I'm doing on the planet and having them eventually accusing me of "going rambo with a smartgun" and "abandoning medical" that had 2-3 idle doctors sitting on their hands:
https://i.imgur.com/L5H0iN8.png
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Why do you think you should be unbanned:
First of, i found the smartgun on the ground abandoned on the ship (or planet ground, can't remember), meaning i had no way of knowing i was actually gonna use a smartgun which fundamentally de-bases this entire ban right from the get-go.
Second, the entire reasoning the admin managed to come up with after all his other accusations failed was that the captain never """EXPLICITLY""" gave me """PERMISSION""" to go down on the planet, despite being the one that CALLED and CONTROLLED the ship for me to GO DOWN IN after i said i was GOING TO DO SO. Furthermore.. Permanent ban on the first 'offense'? Seriously?
Your character name: Ducky 'Dad' Johnson
Admin who banned you: Trevoriousdafox
Type of ban (What are you banned from?): CMO job ban
Ban duration: Permanent
Ban reason: "Deployed as CMO to the FOB to fight with a smartgun." - round ID: 214
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Your side of the story: State of the round in steps:
1. The round started being completely devoid of command staff (and players in general, 35-42'ish). It took 30-90 minutes in before we got a random captain to start doing everything himself.
2. People on the planet got pounded into the dirt in no time with ALL medics (and specialists) dying with exception of one incompetent one.
3. Medical was explosively overstaffed, counting 4 doctors idling myself NOT included: https://i.imgur.com/hjeIqCw.png
4. After 40-80+ minutes of idling in medical with around 1-2 patients ever being transported or beamed up and seeing how my fellow doctors were only capable of using the auto-doc, i decided to go down myself to try and quench the never-ending waves of deceased marines.
5. I explicitly stated this in commands comms and had the captain be the one bringing me down on the planet:
https://i.imgur.com/UI2qrST.png
https://i.imgur.com/cvO3CsG.png
6. I bring down ample medical supplies and a surgery kit with me down. I treated whoever needed it and then i proceeded to pick up an abandoned smartgun (that was lying on the floor) to idly take pot-shots on xenos behind multiple barricades covered by sentries (as they were understaffed & covering 3 angles) when everyone was at peak health to avoid friendly fire with my shit shooting skill.
7. I get bwoinked by this trial admin (initially by another admin) that proceeds to question what I'm doing on the planet and having them eventually accusing me of "going rambo with a smartgun" and "abandoning medical" that had 2-3 idle doctors sitting on their hands:
https://i.imgur.com/L5H0iN8.png
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Why do you think you should be unbanned:
First of, i found the smartgun on the ground abandoned on the ship (or planet ground, can't remember), meaning i had no way of knowing i was actually gonna use a smartgun which fundamentally de-bases this entire ban right from the get-go.
Second, the entire reasoning the admin managed to come up with after all his other accusations failed was that the captain never """EXPLICITLY""" gave me """PERMISSION""" to go down on the planet, despite being the one that CALLED and CONTROLLED the ship for me to GO DOWN IN after i said i was GOING TO DO SO. Furthermore.. Permanent ban on the first 'offense'? Seriously?
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Re: [Ban Appeal][Trevoriousdafox] Ducky 'Dad' Johnson - CMO Perm Ban & Note
Hi, so Trevorious or Lakiller8 needs to be the one to actually action this, but I'll take a quick stab at it.
In regards to your deployment, the rules are fairly clear. Heads of Departments should never abandon the ship without a very good reason, such as evacuating in the case of a nuclear detonation. Rule 5 Precedent 6. You're also arguably violating Precedents 2 and 4, because according to you, you were the only competent doctor on staff so your department wasn't really being taken care of, but that's a stretch at best so let's not. Your screenshots don't really show you getting permission, so I agree with Trevorious in this case. You just said call the Alamo up, and send it back down. You said you were going once. You never asked permission, or really identified yourself as the CMO. If you want to deploy and be a field doctor, play as a Medical Officer, not as the CMO. And the Captain even said that they never gave you permission. So that's Rule 5 Precedent 4 again.
The smartgunning I can't really answer because logs are not exactly perfect for these sorts of situations, so one of the admins handling the case will need to comment on that. All I will say is that non-combat personnel are generally expected to stick to their role. If you are a field doctor with no patients, you sit and wait or return to the ship.
Let's address the other big issue on why you got a jobban instead of a slap on the wrist and a note. You were extremely argumentative, refused to see fault, and frequently insulted the administrator handling your case. Considering that, you're very lucky you weren't given a server ban in addition to your jobban. Trevorious showed excellent restraint.
Given the short amount of time between your banning and this appeal, your argumentative attitude, and the fact that you still don't see what you're doing wrong, I'm strongly against this being lifted.
In regards to your deployment, the rules are fairly clear. Heads of Departments should never abandon the ship without a very good reason, such as evacuating in the case of a nuclear detonation. Rule 5 Precedent 6. You're also arguably violating Precedents 2 and 4, because according to you, you were the only competent doctor on staff so your department wasn't really being taken care of, but that's a stretch at best so let's not. Your screenshots don't really show you getting permission, so I agree with Trevorious in this case. You just said call the Alamo up, and send it back down. You said you were going once. You never asked permission, or really identified yourself as the CMO. If you want to deploy and be a field doctor, play as a Medical Officer, not as the CMO. And the Captain even said that they never gave you permission. So that's Rule 5 Precedent 4 again.
The smartgunning I can't really answer because logs are not exactly perfect for these sorts of situations, so one of the admins handling the case will need to comment on that. All I will say is that non-combat personnel are generally expected to stick to their role. If you are a field doctor with no patients, you sit and wait or return to the ship.
Let's address the other big issue on why you got a jobban instead of a slap on the wrist and a note. You were extremely argumentative, refused to see fault, and frequently insulted the administrator handling your case. Considering that, you're very lucky you weren't given a server ban in addition to your jobban. Trevorious showed excellent restraint.
Given the short amount of time between your banning and this appeal, your argumentative attitude, and the fact that you still don't see what you're doing wrong, I'm strongly against this being lifted.
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Re: [Ban Appeal][Trevoriousdafox] Ducky 'Dad' Johnson - CMO Perm Ban & Note
Hi, I’m the administrator that was initially handling your case before I handed it off to Trev due to an IRL emergency.
I cannot comment on the job ban itself considering I went offline before this really amped up it seems, but there are a few things I would like to clarify.
First I neither said you were “going Rambo” or “abandoning Medical” I simply questioned why the CMO, a department lead and therefore part of command staff was on the ground, fighting xenos instead of managing their department.
Second, while I understand your frustration that you cannot send any of your staff to the ground to heal since they apparently don’t know surgery, that is still not an excuse for you to leave them to their own devices to go shoot xenos. You had options, LOOC tell them to mhelp, or take the time to teach them, which should be easy if medical was as dead as you said it was. If you were not getting enough patientns to keep you satisfied, you could have said over medical comms for medics to drag bodies to the Alamo to come up for heals, or even ask someone in CIC to make an announcement to the same effect.
Utimately however, I don’t think me or Trev had a particular problem either you being on the ground if you were simply acting as a stand in medic. It is not ideal, but at least you would be somewhat playing your role while also having time to manage your department over comms. The real problem here, however is that you were not doing that, you were firing at the xenos with a smart gun on the second layer of cades, not the innermost. While you are a commissioned officer, you should not be picking up a weapon off the ground which an injured marine might have dropped and fighting, no matter how many snow barriers were between you and the xenos. That is not your job.
Finally, i am pretty sure that the CPT was just announcing the Alamo going up and down, not giving you permission to deploy. He does not in any way acknowledge your statement, which indicates he simply didn’t see it.
At the time I handed it off I was just planning to note you, but I cannot speak for Trev’s experience. They should be posting soon.
I cannot comment on the job ban itself considering I went offline before this really amped up it seems, but there are a few things I would like to clarify.
First I neither said you were “going Rambo” or “abandoning Medical” I simply questioned why the CMO, a department lead and therefore part of command staff was on the ground, fighting xenos instead of managing their department.
Second, while I understand your frustration that you cannot send any of your staff to the ground to heal since they apparently don’t know surgery, that is still not an excuse for you to leave them to their own devices to go shoot xenos. You had options, LOOC tell them to mhelp, or take the time to teach them, which should be easy if medical was as dead as you said it was. If you were not getting enough patientns to keep you satisfied, you could have said over medical comms for medics to drag bodies to the Alamo to come up for heals, or even ask someone in CIC to make an announcement to the same effect.
Utimately however, I don’t think me or Trev had a particular problem either you being on the ground if you were simply acting as a stand in medic. It is not ideal, but at least you would be somewhat playing your role while also having time to manage your department over comms. The real problem here, however is that you were not doing that, you were firing at the xenos with a smart gun on the second layer of cades, not the innermost. While you are a commissioned officer, you should not be picking up a weapon off the ground which an injured marine might have dropped and fighting, no matter how many snow barriers were between you and the xenos. That is not your job.
Finally, i am pretty sure that the CPT was just announcing the Alamo going up and down, not giving you permission to deploy. He does not in any way acknowledge your statement, which indicates he simply didn’t see it.
At the time I handed it off I was just planning to note you, but I cannot speak for Trev’s experience. They should be posting soon.
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Re: [Ban Appeal][Trevoriousdafox] Ducky 'Dad' Johnson - CMO Perm Ban & Note
Okay, where to begin.
Yes I was not the first admin to handle the ticket. Rafar was but had something come up, so I took over. There was an Ahelp about you fighting on the front lines as CMO.
I was playing as a xeno at that time and was not any where near to confirm or deny this. But by the time I took over Rafar had already confirmed.
I also did have a few people confirm this though in Dchat saying they thought the CMO was a PMC SG. I have no clue if the CMO did do any actual medical work on the FOB or how much.
Regardless they never got permission from the CO. I Messaged the CO to confirm this.
So we've got a rule break on.
Rule 5 Precedents.
2. Ranks with IC authority have the duty to make sure the departments under their purview are properly running. For Synths and Queens that means the whole operation. For Captains the whole ship. For Field Commanders the whole ground operation.
4. Shipside roles, such as Medical Offiers, Cargo Technicians, Maintainance Technicians, Synth or IOs, should not deploy if their departments are not being taken care of. They must additionally get permission from their higher-ups, and remain in FOB while deployed. They should not leave their departments completely abandoned either.
6. Captains and heads of departments should never abandon their ship without very good reasons, such as evacuating in case of a nuclear detonation.
In short, not to just repeat what Urytion has said but basically.
If you wanted to deploy to do field surgery that's great. But you shouldn't deploy or played as CMO if you wanted to do that. That's why we have regular doctors.
If you do deploy as a doctor, you shouldn't really ever be fighting unless it's to defend yourself. And should never be at the frontline of barricades with a smartgun.
The screenshot is very unclear and again as Urytion has said you never made it clear to anyone you had intent to deploy.
And lastly the job ban was a bit harsh I agree.
But I think it was necessary since you never seemed to understand what you did wrong and wanted to just argue the semantics of how you never broke any rules.
Also how you treated myself and the other admin in PMs, and in the situation in general was very rude to say the least.
I don't think this should be lifted yet, you can play as doctor if you want to do things like this not CMO.
If you do want to actually follow the rules and play CMO properly then I suggest you play doctor for a little bit to show us improvement and then reappeal.
Yes I was not the first admin to handle the ticket. Rafar was but had something come up, so I took over. There was an Ahelp about you fighting on the front lines as CMO.
I was playing as a xeno at that time and was not any where near to confirm or deny this. But by the time I took over Rafar had already confirmed.
I also did have a few people confirm this though in Dchat saying they thought the CMO was a PMC SG. I have no clue if the CMO did do any actual medical work on the FOB or how much.
Regardless they never got permission from the CO. I Messaged the CO to confirm this.
So we've got a rule break on.
Rule 5 Precedents.
2. Ranks with IC authority have the duty to make sure the departments under their purview are properly running. For Synths and Queens that means the whole operation. For Captains the whole ship. For Field Commanders the whole ground operation.
4. Shipside roles, such as Medical Offiers, Cargo Technicians, Maintainance Technicians, Synth or IOs, should not deploy if their departments are not being taken care of. They must additionally get permission from their higher-ups, and remain in FOB while deployed. They should not leave their departments completely abandoned either.
6. Captains and heads of departments should never abandon their ship without very good reasons, such as evacuating in case of a nuclear detonation.
In short, not to just repeat what Urytion has said but basically.
If you wanted to deploy to do field surgery that's great. But you shouldn't deploy or played as CMO if you wanted to do that. That's why we have regular doctors.
If you do deploy as a doctor, you shouldn't really ever be fighting unless it's to defend yourself. And should never be at the frontline of barricades with a smartgun.
The screenshot is very unclear and again as Urytion has said you never made it clear to anyone you had intent to deploy.
And lastly the job ban was a bit harsh I agree.
But I think it was necessary since you never seemed to understand what you did wrong and wanted to just argue the semantics of how you never broke any rules.
Also how you treated myself and the other admin in PMs, and in the situation in general was very rude to say the least.
I don't think this should be lifted yet, you can play as doctor if you want to do things like this not CMO.
If you do want to actually follow the rules and play CMO properly then I suggest you play doctor for a little bit to show us improvement and then reappeal.
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Re: [Ban Appeal][Trevoriousdafox] Ducky 'Dad' Johnson - CMO Perm Ban & Note
Please stop contradicting yourself.Urytion wrote:You just said call the Alamo up, and send it back down. You said you were going once.
Why would I need to "identify" myself when the radio comms does that for me?Urytion wrote:You never asked permission, or really identified yourself as the CMO.
https://i.imgur.com/o6inZqN.png
Did you just neglect reading the entire OP of it's entirety?Urytion wrote:If you want to deploy and be a field doctor, play as a Medical Officer, not as the CMO.
All the medics were dead. I did not "want" to be a field doctor, i ended up doing so as it was NECESSARY with the other doctors being incapable of doing surgery due to the auto-doc still existing. Please learn what a low-pop round is.
So you're saying the server has a 100% non-leniency policy towards filling roles when it has a population of 30-40, completely disregarding the fact that the captain was swamped in work and otherwise too busy to actually respond to this high-RP rule of "permission asking"?Urytion wrote:And the Captain even said that they never gave you permission. So that's Rule 5 Precedent 4 again.
Now you're just downright posing as the admin that gave the ban.. Please stop. Thanks.Urytion wrote:Let's address the other big issue on why you got a jobban instead of a slap on the wrist and a note.
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Re: [Ban Appeal][Trevoriousdafox] Ducky 'Dad' Johnson - CMO Perm Ban & Note
I never said you said that, my dude. Please read the OP.Rafar9 wrote:I cannot comment on the job ban itself considering I went offline before this really amped up it seems, but there are a few things I would like to clarify.
First I neither said you were “going Rambo” or “abandoning Medical” I simply questioned why the CMO, a department lead and therefore part of command staff was on the ground, fighting xenos instead of managing their department.
https://i.imgur.com/sqZp6zP.png
Except i didn't go down to "Shoot xenos" as was already debunked in the OP. I took pot-shots on them using a gun i found on the ground. Please stop making false accusations.Rafar9 wrote:Second, while I understand your frustration that you cannot send any of your staff to the ground to heal since they apparently don’t know surgery, that is still not an excuse for you to leave them to their own devices to go shoot xenos.
You want me to try and teach people how to do surgery when there exists a machine that does this for them with no bodies or other players to construct surgery on?.. Mate, what? Can you please point me towards the nearest blow-up doll fabricator on the ship?Rafar9 wrote:You had options, LOOC tell them to mhelp, or take the time to teach them, which should be easy if medical was as dead as you said it was. If you were not getting enough patientns to keep you satisfied
Rafar9 wrote:you could have said over medical comms for medics to drag bodies to the Alamo to come up for heals
https://i.imgur.com/lSxzF7J.png
Not gonna respond further to your ranting until you please read the OP. Thanks.
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Re: [Ban Appeal][Trevoriousdafox] Ducky 'Dad' Johnson - CMO Perm Ban & Note
So you're now admitting to not only neglecting to actually look at the situation:Trevorious wrote:I was playing as a xeno at that time and was not any where near to confirm or deny this. But by the time I took over Rafar had already confirmed.
I also did have a few people confirm this though in Dchat saying they thought the CMO was a PMC SG. I have no clue if the CMO did do any actual medical work on the FOB or how much.
INCLUDING MID CONVERSATION: https://i.imgur.com/U2govZL.png
While also seeing it fit to make accusations of me "going rambo with a smartgun" and creating fabricated ban-reason with this presumption but you also didn't bother to look at the logs? Holy crap my dude. Thanks for admitting that.
Trevorious wrote:Regardless they never got permission from the CO. I Messaged the CO to confirm this.
So we've got a rule break on.
Rule 5 Precedents.
2. Ranks with IC authority have the duty to make sure the departments under their purview are properly running. For Synths and Queens that means the whole operation. For Captains the whole ship. For Field Commanders the whole ground operation.
Like i explained to you in vivid detail many times as you were refusing to listen apparently, medical was "properly running". It was overstaffed. Full of doctors around every corner, doing nothing. There was no rule break on this predecent.
Again, the department was overstaffed and "properly being taken care of" despite your argumentative, non-professional bickering trying to insist otherwise: https://i.imgur.com/hjeIqCw.pngTrevorious wrote:4. Shipside roles, such as Medical Offiers, Cargo Technicians, Maintainance Technicians, Synth or IOs, should not deploy if their departments are not being taken care of. They must additionally get permission from their higher-ups, and remain in FOB while deployed. They should not leave their departments completely abandoned either.
Ah yes. The good ol' vague rule.Trevorious wrote:6. Captains and heads of departments should never abandon their ship without very good reasons, such as evacuating in case of a nuclear detonation.
What is "abandoning"? Let me cite the definition for you.
abandon
/əˈband(ə)n/Submit
verb
gerund or present participle: abandoning
1.
cease to support or look after (someone); desert.
"her natural mother had abandoned her at an early age"
synonyms: desert, leave, leave high and dry, turn one's back on, cast aside, break (up) with; More
2.
give up completely (a practice or a course of action).
"he had clearly abandoned all pretence of trying to succeed"
You're trying to twist this entire situation into saying i somehow betrayed and/or left with no intent of coming back ever, leaving medical to CERTAIN DOOM!!!!! when me and multiple other players (who can't be bothered to learn how to learn surgery due to the auto-doc, this has been discussed before both on the github and discord, not great to see that this issue has been seemingly completely ignored) have been standing there for OVER AN HOUR with no way to fulfill our duties but going down on the planet.. Which i did. To DO SURGERY and DELIVER MEDICAL SUPPLIES and HELPING OUT THE FOB WHERE NEEDED using a GUN DROPPED ON THE FLOOR before RETURNING TO THE SHIP.
Gonna have to repeat myself here again since you're gonna parrot the other admin. I did not want to do field surgery. But there was no other doctors being capable of doing such, forcing me to GO DOWN THERE and do it myself temporarily.Trevorious wrote:If you wanted to deploy to do field surgery that's great. But you shouldn't deploy or played as CMO if you wanted to do that. That's why we have regular doctors.
More accusations here, i see.Trevorious wrote:If you do deploy as a doctor, you shouldn't really ever be fighting unless it's to defend yourself. And should never be at the frontline of barricades with a smartgun.
1. Frontline of barricades as a sentence doesn't work. Especially not when i'm behind other people and sentries, conducting embryo removal surgery most of the time. :)
2. There is no rule whatsoever saying you can't or shouldn't fight "as a doctor" or even as other civilian'esque roles. Please stop making garbage up your head and begin to realize what a low-pop round is and what action it requires some people to take in order to fill the gaps.
No. It's not. https://i.imgur.com/UI2qrST.pngTrevorious wrote:The screenshot is very unclear and again as Urytion has said you never made it clear to anyone you had intent to deploy.
For your viewing-impaired convenience: https://i.imgur.com/auMVQu6.png
You say this unironically as i was repeatedly asking you to clarify specifically on what part of the rule i broke just to have you ignore everything i say, copy-pasta the bulk of it over and over again like a trial-admin, bicker for a few minutes using some extremely broken english and subsequently close my "ticket" without an answer:Trevorious wrote:But I think it was necessary since you never seemed to understand what you did wrong and wanted to just argue the semantics of how you never broke any rules.
https://i.imgur.com/FNsty4U.png
https://i.imgur.com/cl4wiPh.png
Even leaving me to wait for a reply for 10-15 minutes because you didn't tell me you were talking with someone else? Please stop. Thanks.
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Re: [Ban Appeal][Trevoriousdafox] Ducky 'Dad' Johnson - CMO Perm Ban & Note
Here's the Admin PMs, buckle up cause it's a read.
I don't have anything to add here.
Spoiler:
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Re: [Ban Appeal][Trevoriousdafox] Ducky 'Dad' Johnson - CMO Perm Ban & Note
You could explain why you went out of your way to fabricate a ban reason like i just outlined in my reply?Trevorious wrote:I don't have anything too add here.
You didn't check the logs, you didn't look over what was going on and you apparently didn't see anything yourself, yet you decided to slap on a permanent ban with the fabricated reason of saying I went down as the CMO to pewpew the aliens with a smartgun when this just wasn't the case? You know, the whole point of this appeal process? :)
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Re: [Ban Appeal][Trevoriousdafox] Ducky 'Dad' Johnson - CMO Perm Ban & Note
Actually I DO have one thing to add, though a bit unrelated to the ban. After reading all of your chat logs ect that round.
All I can say is you have a horrible attitude towards other people. I'd work on that.
All I can say is you have a horrible attitude towards other people. I'd work on that.
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Re: [Ban Appeal][Trevoriousdafox] Ducky 'Dad' Johnson - CMO Perm Ban & Note
You mean towards "people" that accuse you of doing things you didn't do multiple times-.. Ooh. I see what you're doing. You just realized how fake and garbage this false, fabricated ban is so you're trying to make it an issue of attitude instead.Trevorious wrote:Actually I DO have one thing to add, though a bit unrelated to the ban. After reading all of your chat logs ect that round.
All I can say is you have a horrible attitude towards other people. I'd work on that.
I'd suggest you post that in the player complaint section instead of here in the ban appeal section since it is irrelevant to the subject in hand.. Oh wait. there isn't a player complaint section.
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Think i'm just gonna go ahead and give up on this "appeal" seeing how it isn't an actual ban appeal process as much as it is an admin circle-jerk person judgement process with the guy banning you refusing to even reply to you. Let me know when you guys stop putting ad-hominemic children in charge of administrating your server.
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Re: [Ban Appeal][Trevoriousdafox] Ducky 'Dad' Johnson - CMO Perm Ban & Note
Okay this has gone on enough.
It's clear you don't understand or care what rules you've broken.
And I am fairly sure you have no intent to improve.
This is DENIED
I'll be locking the thread, any headmin/Lead can overrule this.
It's clear you don't understand or care what rules you've broken.
And I am fairly sure you have no intent to improve.
This is DENIED
I'll be locking the thread, any headmin/Lead can overrule this.
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