Am I the shitter....?

[LeekiLoku]

I thought Lisa, Axle, Reider, and Paris where the shitters, BUT I GET PERMA'D BEFORE 3 OF THEM.

9/22/23

[sinfulbliss]

Playing spaceman under the age of 18 will lead only to ruin. Think of the last 5 permabanned players you know of on TG and ask yourself how many you believe to be over 18. Marvel at your findings.

[LeekiLoku]

Playing spaceman under the age of 18 will lead only to ruin. Think of the last 5 permabanned players you know of on TG and ask yourself how many you believe to be over 18. Marvel at your findings.

0 were over 18.

[Archie700]

This is the first peanut where the banned person has created it before he made the ban appeal.

[c4g]

I thought Lisa, Axle, Reider, and Paris where the shitters, BUT I GET PERMA'D BEFORE 3 OF THEM.

9/22/23

lol why are you hyping your ban appeal's release date like an album drop

[kinnebian]

I thought Lisa, Axle, Reider, and Paris where the shitters, BUT I GET PERMA'D BEFORE 3 OF THEM.

9/22/23

lol why are you hyping your ban appeal's release date like an album drop

[Vekter]

Hey, did you guys know that permanent bans are public?

Banned from the server permanently - As a nonantagonist MULEbot, used an exploit to instantly kill multiple players. Only justification was that it was "funny as fuck" and that if they were able to kill people they must have been emagged which they took to mean they were free to kill people. Has a recent history of self antagging.

Paris requested his own ban and Axle and Lisa aren't shitters, people just dislike them because Axle plays antagonistically when he's an antag and they get mad when they die while Lisa generally doesn't take much bullshit and often goes for valids over other things, whether or not that makes someone a shitter is up for discussion but it's not against the rules on LRP.

[TheLoLSwat]

I thought Lisa, Axle, Reider, and Paris where the shitters, BUT I GET PERMA'D BEFORE 3 OF THEM.

9/22/23

Chang… someone isnt a shitter for throwing you into gulag after the crimes of
-kidnapping
-attempted murder
-(really) petty theft
-being mean
-being as annoying as possible (intentionally) (even by sybil standards)

You went on an entire campaign about how you are going to change
( viewtopic.php?f=83&t=33743 ) but the green goblin outfit (kidnapping random people fnr) had too much of a grip on you.

quick edit now that im on pc: I'm a shitter????? Compared to you Chang?!??

[BlueMemesauce]

Banned from the server permanently - As a nonantagonist MULEbot, used an exploit to instantly kill multiple players. Only justification was that it was "funny as fuck" and that if they were able to kill people they must have been emagged which they took to mean they were free to kill people. Has a recent history of self antagging.

Mulebots do not have nonantagonist or antagonist status. Running over people is not an exploit. Mulebots have no laws other than "You are a MULEbot! Do your best to make sure that packages get to their destination!". and running over people can be considered a method of getting packages to their destination. I don't think it's the players fault that the coders made such a bad change.

[TheRex9001]

Mulebots are ghost roles, and not antagonists. If you murderbone fnr you’ll get a ban

[Scriptis]

*checks recent history

yeah you're doing pretty bad my dude i don't know what you expected

[Justice12354]

Banned from the server permanently - As a nonantagonist MULEbot, used an exploit to instantly kill multiple players. Only justification was that it was "funny as fuck" and that if they were able to kill people they must have been emagged which they took to mean they were free to kill people. Has a recent history of self antagging.

Mulebots do not have nonantagonist or antagonist status. Running over people is not an exploit. Mulebots have no laws other than "You are a MULEbot! Do your best to make sure that packages get to their destination!". and running over people can be considered a method of getting packages to their destination. I don't think it's the players fault that the coders made such a bad change.

You said so much shit in here that I gotta break it down into parts...

Mulebots do not have nonantagonist or antagonist status.

There is no such thing as "nonantagonist status". You either have antagonist status or you do not. If you don't have it, you cannot take benefit from rule 4. For more borderline scenarios, such as silicons and pAIs, they must follow their laws, which is a pseudo-antag status, but even then they can't just go bananas without motive.

Running over people is not an exploit.

Did you know that everyone that drinks water dies?
Yes, of course running over people is not an exploit, silly, but running over standing people is.

Mulebots have no laws other than "You are a MULEbot! Do your best to make sure that packages get to their destination!". and running over people can be considered a method of getting packages to their destination.

This is just plain bad faith. Please say this in a mirror with a straight face, it's impossible.

I don't think it's the players fault that the coders made such a bad change.

This is the only part that I partially agree with, and even then it doesn't help your point at all. I dislike the change, but, if you are not an antagonist, you still cannot use rule 4 in your favour.

[Cobby]

they dont even work off a law system what kind of mental gymnastics is "well you should have given them laws ergo I can cause mischief as this roundstart role because they dont use laws thanks stupid coders".

They have non-antag status because they do not have antag status. No objective, no antag. If you need to be told that as a roundstart bot you should be doing bot things and not just going around and killing people, I think you can safely attribute your playstyle to why we cant have nice things.

[Kendrickorium]

I thought Lisa, Axle, Reider, and Paris where the shitters, BUT I GET PERMA'D BEFORE 3 OF THEM.

9/22/23

lisa is learning the ropes of actual roleplaying and is making splendid progress
axle is a competent player that has zero problems roleplaying out situations and will teach people when given the opportunity
reider got #canceled because greyshit plebs metagrudged him constantly IC and OCC
paris will follow orders of superiors in game, but in head roles fails to understand the difference between doing something because he can and doing something because he should. I believe this will eventually lead to his second perma, though it'll take time <3 u paris

go watch some blackpantslegion ss13 vids chang, learn what it means to be a good spaceman

[Kendrickorium]

I thought Lisa, Axle, Reider, and Paris where the shitters, BUT I GET PERMA'D BEFORE 3 OF THEM.

9/22/23

lol why are you hyping your ban appeal's release date like an album drop

saved for the future, this is fantastic

[Vekter]

Running over people is not an exploit.

There was an exploit that was letting him run people over while they were standing up. That's normally not supposed to be possible; there's actively code in the game that prevents it from happening. If someone is lying down, then yes, they can roll over them.

Or could, as a change was made today to prevent that unless the bot is emagged or has had safeties removed via hacking.

[Kendrickorium]

Running over people is not an exploit.

There was an exploit that was letting him run people over while they were standing up. That's normally not supposed to be possible; there's actively code in the game that prevents it from happening. If someone is lying down, then yes, they can roll over them.

Or could, as a change was made today to prevent that unless the bot is emagged or has had safeties removed via hacking.

thank god, i was getting really tired of being screamed at to "DO SOMETHING ABOUT THOSE MULEBOTS CAPTAINS"

[c4g]

I thought Lisa, Axle, Reider, and Paris where the shitters, BUT I GET PERMA'D BEFORE 3 OF THEM.

9/22/23

lol why are you hyping your ban appeal's release date like an album drop

ok this is hard

[NoxVS]

I fondly remember the times I had to trick people into laying down so I could run them over. Getting someone to climb on so I can spin them off and crush them, telling them to lie down to crawl onto me just to immediately run them over. I once was a cultist aligned MULEbot and saw a sec officer standing in the aftermath of a cultist/sec fight. There's a cult bola nearby so I tell the officer "Hey, if you pick that bola up, you'll destroy it. It's a cultist tool so it's a good idea to deny them equipment!" the officer thanked me for the tip, picked the bola up, it immediately attaches itself to his leg and trips him, and I then crush him to death. Good times.

[LeekiLoku]

I fondly remember the times I had to trick people into laying down so I could run them over. Getting someone to climb on so I can spin them off and crush them, telling them to lie down to crawl onto me just to immediately run them over. I once was a cultist aligned MULEbot and saw a sec officer standing in the aftermath of a cultist/sec fight. There's a cult bola nearby so I tell the officer "Hey, if you pick that bola up, you'll destroy it. It's a cultist tool so it's a good idea to deny them equipment!" the officer thanked me for the tip, picked the bola up, it immediately attaches itself to his leg and trips him, and I then crush him to death. Good times.

Classic.

[LeekiLoku]

I thought Lisa, Axle, Reider, and Paris where the shitters, BUT I GET PERMA'D BEFORE 3 OF THEM.

9/22/23

lol why are you hyping your ban appeal's release date like an album drop

This shit goes hard thanks!

[Jonathan Gupta]

I thought Lisa, Axle, Reider, and Paris where the shitters, BUT I GET PERMA'D BEFORE 3 OF THEM.

9/22/23

hey man I was chilling in fucking medbay and you just come in shoving people into glass tables man, we tryna chill.

[LeekiLoku]

I thought Lisa, Axle, Reider, and Paris where the shitters, BUT I GET PERMA'D BEFORE 3 OF THEM.

9/22/23

hey man I was chilling in fucking medbay and you just come in shoving people into glass tables man, we tryna chill.

When was this? If i shoved a lizard on the table, it was because he stole my shoes.

[Jonathan Gupta]

I thought Lisa, Axle, Reider, and Paris where the shitters, BUT I GET PERMA'D BEFORE 3 OF THEM.

9/22/23

hey man I was chilling in fucking medbay and you just come in shoving people into glass tables man, we tryna chill.

When was this? If i shoved a lizard on the table, it was because he stole my shoes.

this was a few days ago you didnt speak for shit and just started shoving people bro

[LeekiLoku]

I thought Lisa, Axle, Reider, and Paris where the shitters, BUT I GET PERMA'D BEFORE 3 OF THEM.

9/22/23

hey man I was chilling in fucking medbay and you just come in shoving people into glass tables man, we tryna chill.

When was this? If i shoved a lizard on the table, it was because he stole my shoes.

this was a few days ago you didnt speak for shit and just started shoving people bro

Honestly sorry about shoving people that wasnt in the conflict, i meant to only fight the lizard. He took my shoes then you know how medbay is, everyone protects eachother. It ended it by me getting decaped.

[Jonathan Gupta]

I thought Lisa, Axle, Reider, and Paris where the shitters, BUT I GET PERMA'D BEFORE 3 OF THEM.

9/22/23

hey man I was chilling in fucking medbay and you just come in shoving people into glass tables man, we tryna chill.

When was this? If i shoved a lizard on the table, it was because he stole my shoes.

this was a few days ago you didnt speak for shit and just started shoving people bro

Honestly sorry about shoving people that wasnt in the conflict, i meant to only fight the lizard. He took my shoes then you know how medbay is, everyone protects eachother. It ended it by me getting decaped.

there was no lizard i believe you just came out of nowhere and started shoving people your shoes were on

[dirk_mcblade]

Mulebots are ghost roles, and not antagonists. If you murderbone fnr you’ll get a ban

What if the player is between you and your package destination?

I thought Lisa, Axle, Reider, and Paris where the shitters, BUT I GET PERMA'D BEFORE 3 OF THEM.

9/22/23

Chang… someone isnt a shitter for throwing you into gulag after the crimes of
-kidnapping
-attempted murder
-(really) petty theft
-being mean
-being as annoying as possible (intentionally) (even by sybil standards)

You went on an entire campaign about how you are going to change
( viewtopic.php?f=83&t=33743 ) but the green goblin outfit (kidnapping random people fnr) had too much of a grip on you.

quick edit now that im on pc: I'm a shitter????? Compared to you Chang?!??

He should've been perma'd for making that thread. To think we almost purged the servers of felinid and lizard together Chang.

[dirk_mcblade]

I fondly remember the times I had to trick people into laying down so I could run them over. Getting someone to climb on so I can spin them off and crush them, telling them to lie down to crawl onto me just to immediately run them over. I once was a cultist aligned MULEbot and saw a sec officer standing in the aftermath of a cultist/sec fight. There's a cult bola nearby so I tell the officer "Hey, if you pick that bola up, you'll destroy it. It's a cultist tool so it's a good idea to deny them equipment!" the officer thanked me for the tip, picked the bola up, it immediately attaches itself to his leg and trips him, and I then crush him to death. Good times.

Is this acceptable or would I get bwoinked for doing this hypothetically

[NoxVS]

I fondly remember the times I had to trick people into laying down so I could run them over. Getting someone to climb on so I can spin them off and crush them, telling them to lie down to crawl onto me just to immediately run them over. I once was a cultist aligned MULEbot and saw a sec officer standing in the aftermath of a cultist/sec fight. There's a cult bola nearby so I tell the officer "Hey, if you pick that bola up, you'll destroy it. It's a cultist tool so it's a good idea to deny them equipment!" the officer thanked me for the tip, picked the bola up, it immediately attaches itself to his leg and trips him, and I then crush him to death. Good times.

Is this acceptable or would I get bwoinked for doing this hypothetically

All of these, entirely devoid of context, would get you bwoinked. It's the context I did these things in that made them fine. Telling someone to hop on me as a pAI MULEbot so we can catch the traitor that's secretly my master just to spin them off and crush them was fine. Tricking the captain to lie down so I can crush them and steal their dead body as a nukeops aligned MULEbot was fine. Getting revenge on a security officer who just helped take down my cult masters was fine.

[iansdoor]

I fondly remember the times I had to trick people into laying down so I could run them over. Getting someone to climb on so I can spin them off and crush them, telling them to lie down to crawl onto me just to immediately run them over. I once was a cultist aligned MULEbot and saw a sec officer standing in the aftermath of a cultist/sec fight. There's a cult bola nearby so I tell the officer "Hey, if you pick that bola up, you'll destroy it. It's a cultist tool so it's a good idea to deny them equipment!" the officer thanked me for the tip, picked the bola up, it immediately attaches itself to his leg and trips him, and I then crush him to death. Good times.

Is this acceptable or would I get bwoinked for doing this hypothetically

All of these, entirely devoid of context, would get you bwoinked. It's the context I did these things in that made them fine. Telling someone to hop on me as a pAI MULEbot so we can catch the traitor that's secretly my master just to spin them off and crush them was fine. Tricking the captain to lie down so I can crush them and steal their dead body as a nukeops aligned MULEbot was fine. Getting revenge on a security officer who just helped take down my cult masters was fine.

I agree with exactly that!
I had a fun shift as pAI with a Chaplain master, on the hunt for two heretics that were popping off on icebox. He would wall shove and ask me to turn them over. Though, that round the cargo tech, who first hacked the mulebot, was not very pleased that device went to me and created a long drawn out conflict to which I flat out refused to run them over by the chaplain's command. Shoving the "master" doesn't warrant the instant round removal as I am aware of the action. On the flipside, A green hand and blade made it very easy to distinguish that they were a threat to chaplain. (first time in the hacked mulebot, good times)

[Indie-ana Jones]

I will admit the legality of what these new sentient bots can/cannot do is a grey area, but I'm not surprised you'd eat a ban if you look at that grey area and then immediately assume you're allowed to go full antag.

[oranges]

Banned from the server permanently - As a nonantagonist MULEbot, used an exploit to instantly kill multiple players. Only justification was that it was "funny as fuck" and that if they were able to kill people they must have been emagged which they took to mean they were free to kill people. Has a recent history of self antagging.

Mulebots do not have nonantagonist or antagonist status. Running over people is not an exploit. Mulebots have no laws other than "You are a MULEbot! Do your best to make sure that packages get to their destination!". and running over people can be considered a method of getting packages to their destination. I don't think it's the players fault that the coders made such a bad change.

you don't get to decide what has antagonist or non antagonist status, the admins do

you also dont' get to decide what is or is not an exploit

[dirk_mcblade]

Banned from the server permanently - As a nonantagonist MULEbot, used an exploit to instantly kill multiple players. Only justification was that it was "funny as fuck" and that if they were able to kill people they must have been emagged which they took to mean they were free to kill people. Has a recent history of self antagging.

Mulebots do not have nonantagonist or antagonist status. Running over people is not an exploit. Mulebots have no laws other than "You are a MULEbot! Do your best to make sure that packages get to their destination!". and running over people can be considered a method of getting packages to their destination. I don't think it's the players fault that the coders made such a bad change.

you don't get to decide what has antagonist or non antagonist status, the admins do

you also dont' get to decide what is or is not an exploit

Such matters are best left to the coders who don't even play the game.

[BlueMemesauce]

I just assumed he was running people over normally and they called that an exploit but if he was exploiting a bug to kill a ton of people then yea he's the shitter

[LeekiLoku]

I just assumed he was running people over normally and they called that an exploit but if he was exploiting a bug to kill a ton of people then yea he's the shitter

The thing was, I didnt know you werent allowed. I assumed you could which was stupid of me but whatever.

[NoxVS]

I just assumed he was running people over normally and they called that an exploit but if he was exploiting a bug to kill a ton of people then yea he's the shitter

Why would that be called an exploit? Why would you immediately assume the most bad faith interpretation without checking logs or doing literally anything to verify it and then go around saying that's what happened?

[Cheshify]

I just assumed he was running people over normally and they called that an exploit but if he was exploiting a bug to kill a ton of people then yea he's the shitter

Why would that be called an exploit? Why would you immediately assume the most bad faith interpretation without checking logs or doing literally anything to verify it and then go around saying that's what happened?

It's the internet's oldest hobby. Not verifying something as the truth, making up a random lie, and demonizing a group/person for shits and giggles.

[Jacquerel]

Based on this thread it doesn't seem completely outside of the realm of possibility that this guy is the shitter

[BlueMemesauce]

I just assumed he was running people over normally and they called that an exploit but if he was exploiting a bug to kill a ton of people then yea he's the shitter

Why would that be called an exploit? Why would you immediately assume the most bad faith interpretation without checking logs or doing literally anything to verify it and then go around saying that's what happened?

admin man bad

[oranges]

Banned from the server permanently - As a nonantagonist MULEbot, used an exploit to instantly kill multiple players. Only justification was that it was "funny as fuck" and that if they were able to kill people they must have been emagged which they took to mean they were free to kill people. Has a recent history of self antagging.

Mulebots do not have nonantagonist or antagonist status. Running over people is not an exploit. Mulebots have no laws other than "You are a MULEbot! Do your best to make sure that packages get to their destination!". and running over people can be considered a method of getting packages to their destination. I don't think it's the players fault that the coders made such a bad change.

you don't get to decide what has antagonist or non antagonist status, the admins do

you also dont' get to decide what is or is not an exploit

Such matters are best left to the coders who don't even play the game.

yes I think the people who wrote the code that allows exploits would probably be best placed to determine if it's an exploit or not...?

[LeekiLoku]

Banned from the server permanently - As a nonantagonist MULEbot, used an exploit to instantly kill multiple players. Only justification was that it was "funny as fuck" and that if they were able to kill people they must have been emagged which they took to mean they were free to kill people. Has a recent history of self antagging.

Mulebots do not have nonantagonist or antagonist status. Running over people is not an exploit. Mulebots have no laws other than "You are a MULEbot! Do your best to make sure that packages get to their destination!". and running over people can be considered a method of getting packages to their destination. I don't think it's the players fault that the coders made such a bad change.

you don't get to decide what has antagonist or non antagonist status, the admins do

you also dont' get to decide what is or is not an exploit

Such matters are best left to the coders who don't even play the game.

yes I think the people who wrote the code that allows exploits would probably be best placed to determine if it's an exploit or not...?

Well Mr. Stinky man is it a exploit?

[Jonathan Gupta]

Banned from the server permanently - As a nonantagonist MULEbot, used an exploit to instantly kill multiple players. Only justification was that it was "funny as fuck" and that if they were able to kill people they must have been emagged which they took to mean they were free to kill people. Has a recent history of self antagging.

Mulebots do not have nonantagonist or antagonist status. Running over people is not an exploit. Mulebots have no laws other than "You are a MULEbot! Do your best to make sure that packages get to their destination!". and running over people can be considered a method of getting packages to their destination. I don't think it's the players fault that the coders made such a bad change.

you don't get to decide what has antagonist or non antagonist status, the admins do

you also dont' get to decide what is or is not an exploit

Such matters are best left to the coders who don't even play the game.

yes I think the people who wrote the code that allows exploits would probably be best placed to determine if it's an exploit or not...?

Well Mr. Stinky man is it a exploit?

YES!!!!!! IT VERY OBVIOUSLY IS!!!!!!!!! ANYONE WITH TWO BRAIN CELLS CAN MUSH THE IDEA IT IS A EXPLOIT TOGETHER!!!!!!!!!

[LeekiLoku]

Banned from the server permanently - As a nonantagonist MULEbot, used an exploit to instantly kill multiple players. Only justification was that it was "funny as fuck" and that if they were able to kill people they must have been emagged which they took to mean they were free to kill people. Has a recent history of self antagging.

Mulebots do not have nonantagonist or antagonist status. Running over people is not an exploit. Mulebots have no laws other than "You are a MULEbot! Do your best to make sure that packages get to their destination!". and running over people can be considered a method of getting packages to their destination. I don't think it's the players fault that the coders made such a bad change.

you don't get to decide what has antagonist or non antagonist status, the admins do

you also dont' get to decide what is or is not an exploit

Such matters are best left to the coders who don't even play the game.

yes I think the people who wrote the code that allows exploits would probably be best placed to determine if it's an exploit or not...?

Well Mr. Stinky man is it a exploit?

YES!!!!!! IT VERY OBVIOUSLY IS!!!!!!!!! ANYONE WITH TWO BRAIN CELLS CAN MUSH THE IDEA IT IS A EXPLOIT TOGETHER!!!!!!!!!

What did i do then? If you think its a exploit what did i do?

[blackdav123]

NTA. Those pedestrians deserved it for trying to get in the way of mail.

Sybil lost another angel today, fly high Mr. Chang...

Come play TGMC its pretty fun you can run people over until they die and just get called a robust crusher instead of a shittertron

[dirk_mcblade]

NTA. Those pedestrians deserved it for trying to get in the way of mail.

Sybil lost another angel today, fly high Mr. Chang...

Come play TGMC its pretty fun you can run people over until they die and just get called a robust crusher instead of a shittertron

Good luck starting a round without an admin on though

[blackdav123]

Good luck starting a round without an admin on though

this 100% used to be the case but lately its almost always online and regularly have 3-5 admins on at once

good luck finding an admin on sybil below 60 pop!

[dirk_mcblade]

Good luck starting a round without an admin on though

good luck finding an admin on sybil below 60 pop!

That's a feature not a bug.

[Jonathan Gupta]

What did i do then? If you think its a exploit what did i do?

Are you fucking retarded? In fact its not a question you are retarded

[TheLoLSwat]

Good luck starting a round without an admin on though

this 100% used to be the case but lately its almost always online and regularly have 3-5 admins on at once

good luck finding an admin on sybil below 60 pop!

why do you need admins to cry to???