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Thanks, Vekter
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Thirty-one is barely a beginning;
However, it's much more than just begun.
In time, of course, you will have had your inning,
Resting on the laurels you have won.
There is much in life to learn and know;
Years and theories tend to come and go.
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Nor ought one play the game, except for fun.
Expertise is fast, but knowledge slow.
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Re: Thanks, Vekter
Excellent killstreak.
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Re: Thanks, Vekter
how are people so fucking bad at writing appeals
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Re: Thanks, Vekter
THANKS VEKTER!
YOU MADE ME WHAT I AM!
THANKS VEKTER!
I TOOK THE BOMBS AND RAN!
I TOOK THE BOMBS AND RAN!
I TOOK THE BOMBS...
aaaaand ran..! la-lalala-de-daaaaa
YOU MADE ME WHAT I AM!
THANKS VEKTER!
I TOOK THE BOMBS AND RAN!
I TOOK THE BOMBS AND RAN!
I TOOK THE BOMBS...
aaaaand ran..! la-lalala-de-daaaaa
im gay (and also play the moth “bugger”)
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Re: Thanks, Vekter
Writing appeals can be hard. And the average tism of the average ss13 player probably doesn't make it easier
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Re: Thanks, Vekter
No one has sent me any PMs to talk me out of giving them a note.chocolate_bickie wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 10:50 amSurvivorship bias.
People who can talk their way out of a note usually do so in PMs.
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Armhulen wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2023 11:08 pmThe Spessmen Times wrote:Prohibition agent Sam Salamander bragged that he could find a metacord in any server in under 30 minutes. In Bagil it took him 21 minutes. In Sybil 17 minutes, and Manuel just 11 minutes. But Terry set the record of 35 seconds. Sam asked an assistant on the arrivals shuttle where to get a discord invite, and the assistant linked him one.
RedBaronFlyer wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:52 pmIt would somehow manage to pick Birdshot Station for headmin if we did that
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Re: Thanks, Vekter
I think they meant they can talk their way out during ahelpconrad wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 11:26 amNo one has sent me any PMs to talk me out of giving them a note.chocolate_bickie wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 10:50 amSurvivorship bias.
People who can talk their way out of a note usually do so in PMs.
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Re: Thanks, Vekter
I don't think you are able to just consent in post to a random shuttle bombing
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Re: Thanks, Vekter
I saw my name and shrimply do not want my death in any sense to be used to extend a punishment. I consent to everything unless I ahelp fr
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Re: Thanks, Vekter
Kieth being populist so he can get the player vote a second time fr
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Armhulen wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2023 11:08 pmThe Spessmen Times wrote:Prohibition agent Sam Salamander bragged that he could find a metacord in any server in under 30 minutes. In Bagil it took him 21 minutes. In Sybil 17 minutes, and Manuel just 11 minutes. But Terry set the record of 35 seconds. Sam asked an assistant on the arrivals shuttle where to get a discord invite, and the assistant linked him one.
RedBaronFlyer wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:52 pmIt would somehow manage to pick Birdshot Station for headmin if we did that
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Re: Thanks, Vekter
you understand "nobody should ever be punished for taking any action at all against me" isn't a stance that can reasonably exist on the server right?
it's impossible for players to know this, impossible for admins to know this, and impossible for anyone to reasonably act on that information
the idea that there'd be an appeal where someone breaks server rules but its ok because its on this list of people who are totally fine with it and then admins have to figure out if the player knew that or if they were acting at random but happened by chance to hit an acceptable target is absurd
you can't opt out of being subject to the server rules
it's impossible for players to know this, impossible for admins to know this, and impossible for anyone to reasonably act on that information
the idea that there'd be an appeal where someone breaks server rules but its ok because its on this list of people who are totally fine with it and then admins have to figure out if the player knew that or if they were acting at random but happened by chance to hit an acceptable target is absurd
you can't opt out of being subject to the server rules
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Re: Thanks, Vekter
well he did all of this by posting on the appeal, soJacquerel wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 4:27 pm you understand "nobody should ever be punished for taking any action at all against me" isn't a stance that can reasonably exist on the server right?
it's impossible for players to know this, impossible for admins to know this, and impossible for anyone to reasonably act on that information
the idea that there'd be an appeal where someone breaks server rules but its ok because its on this list of people who are totally fine with it and then admins have to figure out if the player knew that or if they were acting at random but happened by chance to hit an acceptable target is absurd
you can't opt out of being subject to the server rules
im gay (and also play the moth “bugger”)
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Re: Thanks, Vekter
he didn't do all of that because he didn't (and can't) establish that the player knew that one of the 31 people he killed consented to it before doing it (because he didn't)
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Re: Thanks, Vekter
Are you seriously standing by this take or is this trolling?iwishforducks wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 4:44 pmwell he did all of this by posting on the appeal, soJacquerel wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 4:27 pm you understand "nobody should ever be punished for taking any action at all against me" isn't a stance that can reasonably exist on the server right?
it's impossible for players to know this, impossible for admins to know this, and impossible for anyone to reasonably act on that information
the idea that there'd be an appeal where someone breaks server rules but its ok because its on this list of people who are totally fine with it and then admins have to figure out if the player knew that or if they were acting at random but happened by chance to hit an acceptable target is absurd
you can't opt out of being subject to the server rules
I normally go by Ricky. Tell me how'd I do here. ⋆ 𝒯𝒶𝓀𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝒶 𝓈𝒶𝒷𝒶𝓉𝒾𝒸𝒶𝓁. ⋆
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Armhulen wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2023 11:08 pmThe Spessmen Times wrote:Prohibition agent Sam Salamander bragged that he could find a metacord in any server in under 30 minutes. In Bagil it took him 21 minutes. In Sybil 17 minutes, and Manuel just 11 minutes. But Terry set the record of 35 seconds. Sam asked an assistant on the arrivals shuttle where to get a discord invite, and the assistant linked him one.
RedBaronFlyer wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:52 pmIt would somehow manage to pick Birdshot Station for headmin if we did that
- kieth4
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Re: Thanks, Vekter
It's just my position on these things, I think bombing the shuttle is funny. (I do understand that it's against the rules and that it should be punished) but I do not want to be part of a number there for ban reason. This is it! There's nothing else for me to say really. Not much of an argument to have or anything because I think it's a p simple view. Ian cleard it up so it does not matter at the end of the day because regardless the names posted were not used specifically as part of the ban
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Re: Thanks, Vekter
Kieth is one of the only people that ill always 100% believe with no concerns about ulterior motives he is just extremely based most of the time and even when he is wrong he is a simple honest hardworking terryan noob
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- iwishforducks
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Re: Thanks, Vekter
the redundancy of my take is that jacquerel over thought the entire thing when all kieth wanted to do is say “i dont want to be part of the kill count” and that’s pretty much it.conrad wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 5:17 pmAre you seriously standing by this take or is this trolling?iwishforducks wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 4:44 pmwell he did all of this by posting on the appeal, soJacquerel wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 4:27 pm you understand "nobody should ever be punished for taking any action at all against me" isn't a stance that can reasonably exist on the server right?
it's impossible for players to know this, impossible for admins to know this, and impossible for anyone to reasonably act on that information
the idea that there'd be an appeal where someone breaks server rules but its ok because its on this list of people who are totally fine with it and then admins have to figure out if the player knew that or if they were acting at random but happened by chance to hit an acceptable target is absurd
you can't opt out of being subject to the server rules
chill.
im gay (and also play the moth “bugger”)
- TypicalRig
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Re: Thanks, Vekter
Nobody gonna call out Kendrick, the queen of pointing out awful names, for this title? fine... I will step up to the plate.
0/10. Downright lazy. I was going to say at least you wrote a nice poem to go along with it, but then saw the link...
0/10. Downright lazy. I was going to say at least you wrote a nice poem to go along with it, but then saw the link...
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Re: Thanks, Vekter
If you don't want to be part of the kill count, then don't get killed.iwishforducks wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 7:52 pmthe redundancy of my take is that jacquerel over thought the entire thing when all kieth wanted to do is say “i dont want to be part of the kill count” and that’s pretty much it.conrad wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 5:17 pmAre you seriously standing by this take or is this trolling?iwishforducks wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 4:44 pmwell he did all of this by posting on the appeal, soJacquerel wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 4:27 pm you understand "nobody should ever be punished for taking any action at all against me" isn't a stance that can reasonably exist on the server right?
it's impossible for players to know this, impossible for admins to know this, and impossible for anyone to reasonably act on that information
the idea that there'd be an appeal where someone breaks server rules but its ok because its on this list of people who are totally fine with it and then admins have to figure out if the player knew that or if they were acting at random but happened by chance to hit an acceptable target is absurd
you can't opt out of being subject to the server rules
chill.
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Re: Thanks, Vekter
My bad ashlyn, I'll try to have less of a skill issue going forward. Thanks for being a real 1
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Re: Thanks, Vekter
Thanks, Vekter. literally worse than hitler.
(i didnt read the ban appeal)
(i didnt read the ban appeal)
joooks wrote:Quoting a legend, at least im not a faggot lolNaloac wrote:
In short, this appeal is denied. Suck my nuts retard.
See you in 12 months unless you blacklist me for this
Timberpoes wrote: ↑ I'm going to admin timonk [...]. Fuck it, he's also now my second host vote if goof rejects.
pikeyeskey13 wrote: ↑ ok don't forget to shove it up your ass lmao oops u can delete this one I just wanted to make sure it went through
Agux909 wrote:Woah bravo there sir, post of the month you saved the thread. I feel overwhelmed by the echo of unlimited wisdom and usefulness sprouting from you post. Every Manuel player now feels embarrased to exist because of your much NEEDED wise words, you sure teached'em all, you genius, IQ lord.Timonk wrote:This is why we make fun of Manuel
The hut has perished at my hands.
The pink arrow is always right.
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Re: Thanks, Vekter
Shouldn't this sort of multikill grant you a free syndicate battlecruiser or a nuke code token?
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Re: Thanks, Vekter
All I did was post logs. It'd be like making the peanut name "Thanks, Archie" for doing his usual log diving.
AliasTakuto wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2024 1:11 pm As for the ear replacing stuff, you can ask Anne but I don't think this is what I was banned for. If I was all I can say is "Sorry for being hilarious"...
Omega_DarkPotato wrote:This sucks, dude.
Spoiler:
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Re: Thanks, Vekter
See? Literally worse than Hitler.
joooks wrote:Quoting a legend, at least im not a faggot lolNaloac wrote:
In short, this appeal is denied. Suck my nuts retard.
See you in 12 months unless you blacklist me for this
Timberpoes wrote: ↑ I'm going to admin timonk [...]. Fuck it, he's also now my second host vote if goof rejects.
pikeyeskey13 wrote: ↑ ok don't forget to shove it up your ass lmao oops u can delete this one I just wanted to make sure it went through
Agux909 wrote:Woah bravo there sir, post of the month you saved the thread. I feel overwhelmed by the echo of unlimited wisdom and usefulness sprouting from you post. Every Manuel player now feels embarrased to exist because of your much NEEDED wise words, you sure teached'em all, you genius, IQ lord.Timonk wrote:This is why we make fun of Manuel
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Re: Thanks, Vekter
if keith4 was headadmin he would argue for this guy to get 31 days.
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Re: Thanks, Vekter
31 days for bombing the shuttle? that seems a bit excessive
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Re: Thanks, Vekter
As was stated in the appeal, the general rule for fucking about in a manner that gets multiple people killed is "24 hours plus 24 more per person killed". 31 people died. It's also just gross fucking negligence to see something that you 100% know is "a bomb" and intentionally set it off on the shuttle. I feel like the punishment is a little high, but the fuck-up was pretty damn big.BlueMemesauce wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 8:45 pm 31 days for bombing the shuttle? that seems a bit excessive
AliasTakuto wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2024 1:11 pm As for the ear replacing stuff, you can ask Anne but I don't think this is what I was banned for. If I was all I can say is "Sorry for being hilarious"...
Omega_DarkPotato wrote:This sucks, dude.
Spoiler:
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Re: Thanks, Vekter
It's also worth noting that he hasn't responded to the post yet, but I'll give him a freebie if he reads the peanut - if you say "I'm sorry, I understand what I did was wrong and won't do it again", it'll probably be lowered.
We front-load most punishments like this really heavily because we want to discourage people from doing it, so that "24 hours per person dead" is usually just for people who go "Fuck you, I'm not sorry, I'll do it again".
We front-load most punishments like this really heavily because we want to discourage people from doing it, so that "24 hours per person dead" is usually just for people who go "Fuck you, I'm not sorry, I'll do it again".
AliasTakuto wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2024 1:11 pm As for the ear replacing stuff, you can ask Anne but I don't think this is what I was banned for. If I was all I can say is "Sorry for being hilarious"...
Omega_DarkPotato wrote:This sucks, dude.
Spoiler:
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Re: Thanks, Vekter
24hrs per dead person is our basic starting point.
What the player says can massively decrease this to a note or verbal warning, or cement it as an appropriate outcome, or can set the stage for a more harsh ban.
Sometimes we give bulk discounts on unjust killings where we'll round down. 7+ killings are usually just given a week.
However, shuttle bombing usually attracts less leniency in punishments because it's far easier for players to mass grief.
What the player says can massively decrease this to a note or verbal warning, or cement it as an appropriate outcome, or can set the stage for a more harsh ban.
Sometimes we give bulk discounts on unjust killings where we'll round down. 7+ killings are usually just given a week.
However, shuttle bombing usually attracts less leniency in punishments because it's far easier for players to mass grief.
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Re: Thanks, Vekter
What kind of bomb/trigger was it anyway?
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 14, 2023 3:21 pm The rules exist to create the biggest possible chance of a cool shift of SS13. They don't exist to allow admins to create the most boring interpretation of SS13.
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Re: Thanks, Vekter
^Imitates-The-Lizards wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 11:41 amI think they meant they can talk their way out during ahelpconrad wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 11:26 amNo one has sent me any PMs to talk me out of giving them a note.chocolate_bickie wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 10:50 amSurvivorship bias.
People who can talk their way out of a note usually do so in PMs.
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Re: Thanks, Vekter
No one has ever tried to talk me out of a note during an ahelp.Imitates-The-Lizards wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 11:41 amI think they meant they can talk their way out during ahelpconrad wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 11:26 amNo one has sent me any PMs to talk me out of giving them a note.chocolate_bickie wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 10:50 amSurvivorship bias.
People who can talk their way out of a note usually do so in PMs.
Closest thing to it was trying to talk me out of a ban I wasn't even planning to.
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Armhulen wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2023 11:08 pmThe Spessmen Times wrote:Prohibition agent Sam Salamander bragged that he could find a metacord in any server in under 30 minutes. In Bagil it took him 21 minutes. In Sybil 17 minutes, and Manuel just 11 minutes. But Terry set the record of 35 seconds. Sam asked an assistant on the arrivals shuttle where to get a discord invite, and the assistant linked him one.
RedBaronFlyer wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:52 pmIt would somehow manage to pick Birdshot Station for headmin if we did that
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Re: Thanks, Vekter
In my experience players are better at talking themselves into bans than out of them. ProTip the best way to get out of a ban is "Oh, sorry, I won't do it again "conrad wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 4:45 pmNo one has ever tried to talk me out of a note during an ahelp.Imitates-The-Lizards wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 11:41 amI think they meant they can talk their way out during ahelpconrad wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 11:26 amNo one has sent me any PMs to talk me out of giving them a note.chocolate_bickie wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 10:50 amSurvivorship bias.
People who can talk their way out of a note usually do so in PMs.
Closest thing to it was trying to talk me out of a ban I wasn't even planning to.
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