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- Scriptis
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- Scriptis
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Re: player acts like troll, is sentenced to live under a bridge peanut
i have been informed not to call this player an idiot; as such, i am retracting that remark.
this guy's a moron
edit: i have been asked to provide context. the context is that this guy posted obvious flamebait, was told to stop posting flamebait, started posting more flamebait, and has now posted flamebait in the form of a ban appeal. as such i, scriptis, first of my name, do hereby designate this particular individual as a moron
this guy's a moron
edit: i have been asked to provide context. the context is that this guy posted obvious flamebait, was told to stop posting flamebait, started posting more flamebait, and has now posted flamebait in the form of a ban appeal. as such i, scriptis, first of my name, do hereby designate this particular individual as a moron
- Justice12354
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Re: player acts like troll, is sentenced to live under a bridge peanut
i informed scriptis not to call this player an idiot, which led him to retract that remark; after reading the appeal, i am retracting my warning.
this guy's an idiot
this guy's an idiot
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- Kendrickorium
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Re: player acts like troll, is sentenced to live under a bridge peanut
gonna have to agree with the end bit that a large part of this community needs to be sheltered
stairmaster was recently banned from discord over calmly explaining a differing opinion and was then called a piece of shit after the fact by the banning admin
(this also just happened in a very recent ban appeal)
admins and coders have repeatedly put political shit into IC
the fact is that you can express all the political or societal opinions that you like, as long as they are Admin Approved Opinions™
i'm completely fine with being a safe, inclusive community but social media raised children these days are so fucking soft that anyone expressing a remotely dissenting opinion is immediately branded a misfit toy and cast out?
you guys can be as political as you want until someone is political in a way that you don't like?
i hate to break it to you but that isn't inclusive, that's sheltered.
this server gets people from all over the world, different cultures and different societies raised in innumerable different ways along side innumerable different kinds of people. you are going to get opinions you don't like.
I never got a chance to say this in the thread about the guy getting kicked out because he asked if this was a trans positive server, but that was your perfect opportunity to fucking teach someone, a literal teaching moment handed down to you from a higher power that could not have been more obvious, you could have said "hey, yeah we are, but stick around! maybe you'll change your mind about them! they are just people who want to play and enjoy the game, just like you!" instead you banned him and then posted a bunch of fucking frogs throughout the appeal of a guy genuinely wondering why you were all acting like fucking assholes.
you have no fucking clue how sad that was to see.
grow the fuck up and work on building a longer table instead of a taller fence.
stairmaster was recently banned from discord over calmly explaining a differing opinion and was then called a piece of shit after the fact by the banning admin
(this also just happened in a very recent ban appeal)
admins and coders have repeatedly put political shit into IC
the fact is that you can express all the political or societal opinions that you like, as long as they are Admin Approved Opinions™
i'm completely fine with being a safe, inclusive community but social media raised children these days are so fucking soft that anyone expressing a remotely dissenting opinion is immediately branded a misfit toy and cast out?
you guys can be as political as you want until someone is political in a way that you don't like?
i hate to break it to you but that isn't inclusive, that's sheltered.
this server gets people from all over the world, different cultures and different societies raised in innumerable different ways along side innumerable different kinds of people. you are going to get opinions you don't like.
I never got a chance to say this in the thread about the guy getting kicked out because he asked if this was a trans positive server, but that was your perfect opportunity to fucking teach someone, a literal teaching moment handed down to you from a higher power that could not have been more obvious, you could have said "hey, yeah we are, but stick around! maybe you'll change your mind about them! they are just people who want to play and enjoy the game, just like you!" instead you banned him and then posted a bunch of fucking frogs throughout the appeal of a guy genuinely wondering why you were all acting like fucking assholes.
you have no fucking clue how sad that was to see.
grow the fuck up and work on building a longer table instead of a taller fence.
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- Kendrickorium
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Re: player acts like troll, is sentenced to live under a bridge peanut
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- Scriptis
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Re: player acts like troll, is sentenced to live under a bridge peanut
kendrick, this take is correct. you are correct.Kendrickorium wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 3:36 pm grow the fuck up and work on building a longer table instead of a taller fence.
however when you have a wealth of evidence that you're feeding the other end of the table into a woodchipper sometimes it's better to throw a brick and call an ambulance just in case
- Kendrickorium
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Re: player acts like troll, is sentenced to live under a bridge peanut
Line 4087: [2022-09-16 13:57:33.071] SAY: Zipzipzapityzoo/(Brick Mensch) "let me go rape all my staff" (Brig (112,162,2))
sigh
sigh
- dendydoom
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Re: player acts like troll, is sentenced to live under a bridge peanut
i would rather grow nuts and slam them in a cutlery drawer than ever have a serious conversation about politics on the tgstation forum, it is not a conversation that comes from a genuine place, it's just repping your set and airing vague frustrations to an invisible opponent that anyone can step in and embody so we can have some easily accessible scream therapy. if i'm gonna learn about someone in that way then it'll be when we're already friends and i understand you as more of a multi-faceted human being rather than a glowing username next to some mean words about me.
the only time i want to touch politics in this setting is when it affects my spaceman game and with regards to "jokes" like this i don't like them because i find them lazy, annoying and ultimately unfunny, not hateful. it's like they think they're the first mf to figure out that you can draw a big cock on the bathroom stall door with a sharpie. it's not exactly high art worth protecting.
the only time i want to touch politics in this setting is when it affects my spaceman game and with regards to "jokes" like this i don't like them because i find them lazy, annoying and ultimately unfunny, not hateful. it's like they think they're the first mf to figure out that you can draw a big cock on the bathroom stall door with a sharpie. it's not exactly high art worth protecting.
MrStonedOne wrote:I always read dendy's walls of text
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- kieth4
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Re: player acts like troll, is sentenced to live under a bridge peanut
The thing is, this is kinda true and that sucks. The only political stuff you are allowed to do is stuff that admins support.Kendrickorium wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 3:36 pm admins and coders have repeatedly put political shit into IC
the fact is that you can express all the political or societal opinions that you like, as long as they are Admin Approved Opinions™
Unsure how I feel about it overall as there aren't clear drawn lines here for anything so it's hard and on an admin-by-admin basis.
Struggling to really fully get my thoughts out on this, might post another comment later when more discussion has been had/it's been edited. I obviously don't want to see the SS revived on ss13 but I do think there should be some leeway for edgy jokes/ic political positions on some stuff that isn't the approved version.
- Scriptis
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Re: player acts like troll, is sentenced to live under a bridge peanut
if you drop the politics you still end up with:
scriptis wrote: The ban reason is: As an assistant, spray-painted low-effort politically-charged drivel on the chapel floor to bait OOC confrontation. In the ensuing ticket, attempted to bait the admin into politically-charged confrontation over said drivel instead of recognizing the root of the problem. Has a small novella's worth of Centcom notes, and has already been permanently banned prior for similar (sexually charged) drivel.
- iwishforducks
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Re: player acts like troll, is sentenced to live under a bridge peanut
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im gay (and also play the moth “bugger”)
- Vekter
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Re: player acts like troll, is sentenced to live under a bridge peanut
He's so brave for saying something so controversial.lol wrote: 2023-10-25 04:05:39: Reply from zipzipzapityzoo: call me a relic but I thought people needed thick skin to use the internet
AliasTakuto wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2024 1:11 pm As for the ear replacing stuff, you can ask Anne but I don't think this is what I was banned for. If I was all I can say is "Sorry for being hilarious"...
Omega_DarkPotato wrote:This sucks, dude.
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Re: player acts like troll, is sentenced to live under a bridge peanut
I have never seen this happen. Are there any examples? Either ways, most political topics are probably not a concern in the 26th century, so it's kinda cringe to see it in this game. Fail RP.Kendrickorium wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 3:36 pm admins and coders have repeatedly put political shit into IC
the fact is that you can express all the political or societal opinions that you like, as long as they are Admin Approved Opinions™
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Re: player acts like troll, is sentenced to live under a bridge peanut
Yeh that's true I suppose. But my point about politics still stands rllyScriptis wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 4:30 pmif you drop the politics you still end up with:
scriptis wrote: The ban reason is: As an assistant, spray-painted low-effort politically-charged drivel on the chapel floor to bait OOC confrontation. In the ensuing ticket, attempted to bait the admin into politically-charged confrontation over said drivel instead of recognizing the root of the problem. Has a small novella's worth of Centcom notes, and has already been permanently banned prior for similar (sexually charged) drivel.
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Re: player acts like troll, is sentenced to live under a bridge peanut
Honestly, my thoughts on this are similar to the l-word. If you absolutely must have some IC racism or politics, be more creative than just copying real world political issues. Maybe do something like "xeno lives matter" instead, if you see medbay removing xeno larva from some unfortunate scientists. It works as IC politics while still being obviously a joke OOC.
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Re: player acts like troll, is sentenced to live under a bridge peanut
Yeah so theoretically trans rights have been completely solved and everyone has super gender-swap surgery that completely converts all your cells to XX or XY on the genetic level so you can be perfectly transgender, but yet there's trans pins and graffiti. I'm not saying (for my own safety!) that I don't like trans pride or whatever, but this is clearly "an[] example" of political topics that are DIRECTLY supported by admins, and the removal of such warrants a ban.
viewtopic.php?f=34&t=34827
I literally never heard of NAMBLA before this note but here's an example of something political (trans pride flag) that an admin DOES support and something political (NAMBLA graffiti) that and admin DOESN'T support, even though both of these things are 21st century "Fail RP."
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Re: player acts like troll, is sentenced to live under a bridge peanut
Fun fact if you dont put the lgbtq charity on the first spot in the ingame poll you will be banned.
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Re: player acts like troll, is sentenced to live under a bridge peanut
Writing "you are a pedophile" on a trans flag is hate speech while drawing a trans flag isn't, I hope this helpsSoyoboyo wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 5:26 pmYeah so theoretically trans rights have been completely solved and everyone has super gender-swap surgery that completely converts all your cells to XX or XY on the genetic level so you can be perfectly transgender, but yet there's trans pins and graffiti. I'm not saying (for my own safety!) that I don't like trans pride or whatever, but this is clearly "an[] example" of political topics that are DIRECTLY supported by admins, and the removal of such warrants a ban.
viewtopic.php?f=34&t=34827
I literally never heard of NAMBLA before this note but here's an example of something political (trans pride flag) that an admin DOES support and something political (NAMBLA graffiti) that and admin DOESN'T support, even though both of these things are 21st century "Fail RP."
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Re: player acts like troll, is sentenced to live under a bridge peanut
he makes a lot of rape jokes ingame for a pro-lifer. or maybe not enough. i don't know. he's quality control banned from my perspective and I have no temptations to abort that action.
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Re: player acts like troll, is sentenced to live under a bridge peanut
That's entirely fair.TheBibleMelts wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 5:47 pm he makes a lot of rape jokes ingame for a pro-lifer. or maybe not enough. i don't know. he's quality control banned from my perspective and I have no temptations to abort that action.
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Re: player acts like troll, is sentenced to live under a bridge peanut
See this doesn't because what he did first was simply start erasing the flags. Based on Vekter's quote:Jacquerel wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 5:40 pmWriting "you are a pedophile" on a trans flag is hate speech while drawing a trans flag isn't, I hope this helpsSoyoboyo wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 5:26 pmYeah so theoretically trans rights have been completely solved and everyone has super gender-swap surgery that completely converts all your cells to XX or XY on the genetic level so you can be perfectly transgender, but yet there's trans pins and graffiti. I'm not saying (for my own safety!) that I don't like trans pride or whatever, but this is clearly "an[] example" of political topics that are DIRECTLY supported by admins, and the removal of such warrants a ban.
viewtopic.php?f=34&t=34827
I literally never heard of NAMBLA before this note but here's an example of something political (trans pride flag) that an admin DOES support and something political (NAMBLA graffiti) that and admin DOESN'T support, even though both of these things are 21st century "Fail RP."
simply the act of removing the political symbol is in itself a rule violation, not to mention the NAMBLA sprays. If I spray paint the American flag or something on the floor, the janitor's probably not going to catch shit from admins for wiping it up with soap or something. But since he started removing trans pride floor tiles and gets shit for it, this implies that trans pride flag has a meta protection. Therefore, validating the argument that certain political symbols have protections by the admins.Had things simply stayed as "I was ordered to get rid of them", it would be on the CMO, not the both of you.
Humor me by ignoring my NAMBLA argument and address why simply wiping up the trans pride flag like any other political symbol catches you flak.
Still don't support either of these guys though.
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Re: player acts like troll, is sentenced to live under a bridge peanut
Oh my fuck everytime someone makes a rape joke I have to circumvent my round to kill them.
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Re: player acts like troll, is sentenced to live under a bridge peanut
If you ahelp them making rape jokes I'll give you a Gyroget pistol to do it with before I ban themJonathan Gupta wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 5:53 pm Oh my fuck everytime someone makes a rape joke I have to circumvent my round to kill them.
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Re: player acts like troll, is sentenced to live under a bridge peanut
I have the crew beat them to death, the gyroget would be used to kill myself and others.Cheshify wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 6:07 pmIf you ahelp them making rape jokes I'll give you a Gyroget pistol to do it with before I ban themJonathan Gupta wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 5:53 pm Oh my fuck everytime someone makes a rape joke I have to circumvent my round to kill them.
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Re: player acts like troll, is sentenced to live under a bridge peanut
we don't ban political speech sir we ban bigotry and low-effort trolling
edit: i had to google what nambla is. mate it's not complicated: the shit you linked is bigotry, not all gay people are pedophiles, minors can't consent, and i don't even know what you're arguing for at this point
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Re: player acts like troll, is sentenced to live under a bridge peanut
Gender identity is not political. This is a "you" problem.Soyoboyo wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 5:26 pmYeah so theoretically trans rights have been completely solved and everyone has super gender-swap surgery that completely converts all your cells to XX or XY on the genetic level so you can be perfectly transgender, but yet there's trans pins and graffiti. I'm not saying (for my own safety!) that I don't like trans pride or whatever, but this is clearly "an[] example" of political topics that are DIRECTLY supported by admins, and the removal of such warrants a ban.
viewtopic.php?f=34&t=34827
I literally never heard of NAMBLA before this note but here's an example of something political (trans pride flag) that an admin DOES support and something political (NAMBLA graffiti) that and admin DOESN'T support, even though both of these things are 21st century "Fail RP."
I'm not entertaining the "what if I just want to clean it up" argument. It's a vibe check. If you clean up all graffiti and don't act like a shithead about it, you pass. If you clean up only the pride flags and get pissy about it when I ask you why, you fail.
E: I would also slap people for spraypainting "SUPPORT UKRAINE" or "FREE PALESTINE" in-game. Those are objectively political statements. Anything involving LGBT+ matters is not politics. There's an objective correct and incorrect answer to the matter. Tell me which one you think is right and I'll tell you if you get banned.
AliasTakuto wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2024 1:11 pm As for the ear replacing stuff, you can ask Anne but I don't think this is what I was banned for. If I was all I can say is "Sorry for being hilarious"...
Omega_DarkPotato wrote:This sucks, dude.
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Re: player acts like troll, is sentenced to live under a bridge peanut
the trans flag looks cool so it inherently gets a pass
im gay (and also play the moth “bugger”)
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Re: player acts like troll, is sentenced to live under a bridge peanut
Gender Identity is political in the current reality. This isn't even a question right now. American society is currently tackling the trans issue with what are they? To what extent do they exist? How welcoming ought we be to people who arn't gender conforming? I get that you think that these are all very simple and fall along morally good/bad lines but the fact of the matter is that they are a hot button issue that people are going to use to help guide them in who they are voting for in the political process.Vekter wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 6:19 pmGender identity is not political. This is a "you" problem.Soyoboyo wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 5:26 pmYeah so theoretically trans rights have been completely solved and everyone has super gender-swap surgery that completely converts all your cells to XX or XY on the genetic level so you can be perfectly transgender, but yet there's trans pins and graffiti. I'm not saying (for my own safety!) that I don't like trans pride or whatever, but this is clearly "an[] example" of political topics that are DIRECTLY supported by admins, and the removal of such warrants a ban.
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I literally never heard of NAMBLA before this note but here's an example of something political (trans pride flag) that an admin DOES support and something political (NAMBLA graffiti) that and admin DOESN'T support, even though both of these things are 21st century "Fail RP."
I'm not entertaining the "what if I just want to clean it up" argument. It's a vibe check. If you clean up all graffiti and don't act like a shithead about it, you pass. If you clean up only the pride flags and get pissy about it when I ask you why, you fail.
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Must get pretty tiring killing all those ais.Jonathan Gupta wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 5:53 pm Oh my fuck everytime someone makes a rape joke I have to circumvent my round to kill them.
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It was ironic yall don't get it he was being ironic it was just irony learn some humor.
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The right is trying to make it into a political matter, but what is in someone's pants is not the business of the government or anyone but that person. You can argue until you're blue in the face, but it's not a good faith argument to say it's political just because there are people in our government who are pushing the matter.Boot wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 6:36 pm Gender Identity is political in the current reality. This isn't even a question right now. American society is currently tackling the trans issue with what are they? To what extent do they exist? How welcoming ought we be to people who arn't gender conforming? I get that you think that these are all very simple and fall along morally good/bad lines but the fact of the matter is that they are a hot button issue that people are going to use to help guide them in who they are voting for in the political process.
We will not be banning people who want to display support for trans people or any other part of the LGBT spectrum. If you really want to call it hypocritical because we ban all other references to current day politics, then go right ahead. It's not going to change anything, but if it makes you feel better to think I'm a big ol' meanie, then by all means.
AliasTakuto wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2024 1:11 pm As for the ear replacing stuff, you can ask Anne but I don't think this is what I was banned for. If I was all I can say is "Sorry for being hilarious"...
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Re: player acts like troll, is sentenced to live under a bridge peanut
sir we don't ban political speech we ban bigotry hereBoot wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 6:36 pm Gender Identity is political in the current reality. This isn't even a question right now. American society is currently tackling the trans issue with what are they? To what extent do they exist? How welcoming ought we be to people who arn't gender conforming? I get that you think that these are all very simple and fall along morally good/bad lines but the fact of the matter is that they are a hot button issue that people are going to use to help guide them in who they are voting for in the political process.
edit: though we mostly just banned the guy in op for being an asshole
edit 2: if your political ideology includes "be an asshole to <insert group here>" or "be bigoted towards <insert group here>" then yes those politics are not allowed in this community thank you
edit 3: you can still have them but not here
edit 4: you can find our official policy on political speech here
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This is true. Staff members get away with a lot of shit just by virtue of being a staff member.Kendrickorium wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 3:36 pm admins and coders have repeatedly put political shit into IC
the fact is that you can express all the political or societal opinions that you like, as long as they are Admin Approved Opinions™
However, those two things aren't related. You're peddling someone who makes jokes about raping people with the social justice of /tg/ of "down with the admins".
Bad flag to raise if you ask me.
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Armhulen wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2023 11:08 pmThe Spessmen Times wrote:Prohibition agent Sam Salamander bragged that he could find a metacord in any server in under 30 minutes. In Bagil it took him 21 minutes. In Sybil 17 minutes, and Manuel just 11 minutes. But Terry set the record of 35 seconds. Sam asked an assistant on the arrivals shuttle where to get a discord invite, and the assistant linked him one.
RedBaronFlyer wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:52 pmIt would somehow manage to pick Birdshot Station for headmin if we did that
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Re: player acts like troll, is sentenced to live under a bridge peanut
for context as the banning adminKendrickorium wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 3:36 pm stairmaster was recently banned from discord over calmly explaining a differing opinion and was then called a piece of shit after the fact by the banning admin
(this also just happened in a very recent ban appeal)
stairmaster was banned for denying a genocide in politics on topic
shut the fuck up
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Re: player acts like troll, is sentenced to live under a bridge peanut
I dont know if you mean ai's as in ai players or ai's as in people who are botsBoot wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 6:37 pmMust get pretty tiring killing all those ais.Jonathan Gupta wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 5:53 pm Oh my fuck everytime someone makes a rape joke I have to circumvent my round to kill them.
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I 100% agree that nothing that goes on in ones pants is a political question. What is a political question is if my tax money is going to pay for any medicine of surgery to alleviate their mental issues. Even just calling it a mental issue is a political problem now because some people just want self ID.Vekter wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 6:43 pmThe right is trying to make it into a political matter, but what is in someone's pants is not the business of the government or anyone but that person. You can argue until you're blue in the face, but it's not a good faith argument to say it's political just because there are people in our government who are pushing the matter.Boot wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 6:36 pm Gender Identity is political in the current reality. This isn't even a question right now. American society is currently tackling the trans issue with what are they? To what extent do they exist? How welcoming ought we be to people who arn't gender conforming? I get that you think that these are all very simple and fall along morally good/bad lines but the fact of the matter is that they are a hot button issue that people are going to use to help guide them in who they are voting for in the political process.
We will not be banning people who want to display support for trans people or any other part of the LGBT spectrum. If you really want to call it hypocritical because we ban all other references to current day politics, then go right ahead. It's not going to change anything, but if it makes you feel better to think I'm a big ol' meanie, then by all means.
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So you think there's this big conspiracy where the evil transgenders want to steal your tax money for...reasons, idk.Boot wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 7:11 pmI 100% agree that nothing that goes on in ones pants is a political question. What is a political question is if my tax money is going to pay for any medicine of surgery to alleviate their mental issues. Even just calling it a mental issue is a political problem now because some people just want self ID.Vekter wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 6:43 pmThe right is trying to make it into a political matter, but what is in someone's pants is not the business of the government or anyone but that person. You can argue until you're blue in the face, but it's not a good faith argument to say it's political just because there are people in our government who are pushing the matter.Boot wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 6:36 pm Gender Identity is political in the current reality. This isn't even a question right now. American society is currently tackling the trans issue with what are they? To what extent do they exist? How welcoming ought we be to people who arn't gender conforming? I get that you think that these are all very simple and fall along morally good/bad lines but the fact of the matter is that they are a hot button issue that people are going to use to help guide them in who they are voting for in the political process.
We will not be banning people who want to display support for trans people or any other part of the LGBT spectrum. If you really want to call it hypocritical because we ban all other references to current day politics, then go right ahead. It's not going to change anything, but if it makes you feel better to think I'm a big ol' meanie, then by all means.
What is your angle here? What are you trying to say?
E: More importantly, what are you trying to achieve? Do you even know?
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Armhulen wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2023 11:08 pmThe Spessmen Times wrote:Prohibition agent Sam Salamander bragged that he could find a metacord in any server in under 30 minutes. In Bagil it took him 21 minutes. In Sybil 17 minutes, and Manuel just 11 minutes. But Terry set the record of 35 seconds. Sam asked an assistant on the arrivals shuttle where to get a discord invite, and the assistant linked him one.
RedBaronFlyer wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:52 pmIt would somehow manage to pick Birdshot Station for headmin if we did that
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your tax money should absolutely pay into a social healthcare systemBoot wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 7:11 pm I 100% agree that nothing that goes on in ones pants is a political question. What is a political question is if my tax money is going to pay for any medicine of surgery to alleviate their mental issues. Even just calling it a mental issue is a political problem now because some people just want self ID.
all health services should be covered by that social healthcare system
mental health is health
therefore
mental health should be funded with your taxes
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"x isn't political"Scriptis wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 6:47 pmsir we don't ban political speech we ban bigotry hereBoot wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 6:36 pm Gender Identity is political in the current reality. This isn't even a question right now. American society is currently tackling the trans issue with what are they? To what extent do they exist? How welcoming ought we be to people who arn't gender conforming? I get that you think that these are all very simple and fall along morally good/bad lines but the fact of the matter is that they are a hot button issue that people are going to use to help guide them in who they are voting for in the political process.
edit: though we mostly just banned the guy in op for being an asshole
edit 2: if your political ideology includes "be an asshole to <insert group here>" or "be bigoted towards <insert group here>" then yes those politics are not allowed in this community thank you
edit 3: you can still have them but not here
edit 4: you can find our official policy on political speech here
"x is political"
Why do you read that and feel the need to clarify that only bigotry is banned? If you want to threaten me just come out and do it.
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see yall on page 7 when this thread gets REALLY juicy
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So are you going to pretend like the existence of a vast and expensive "social healthcare system" isn't a political question or can you just cede this point?Scriptis wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 7:15 pmyour tax money should absolutely pay into a social healthcare systemBoot wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 7:11 pm I 100% agree that nothing that goes on in ones pants is a political question. What is a political question is if my tax money is going to pay for any medicine of surgery to alleviate their mental issues. Even just calling it a mental issue is a political problem now because some people just want self ID.
all health services should be covered by that social healthcare system
mental health is health
therefore
mental health should be funded with your taxes
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Ill bet you page 2-3 are better
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this shit is being mixed up with freedom of speech/political alignment/censorship/whatever. at the end of the day political leanings should just be blacked out with a marker to decide whether something breaks the rules
i'm not threatening you
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my response was political and i'm not ceding to it because i literally left this shithole for this "shithole" because one of the two of them destroyed their economy. you'll never guess which oneBoot wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 7:17 pmSo are you going to pretend like the existence of a vast and expensive "social healthcare system" isn't a political question or can you just cede this point?Scriptis wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 7:15 pmyour tax money should absolutely pay into a social healthcare systemBoot wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 7:11 pm I 100% agree that nothing that goes on in ones pants is a political question. What is a political question is if my tax money is going to pay for any medicine of surgery to alleviate their mental issues. Even just calling it a mental issue is a political problem now because some people just want self ID.
all health services should be covered by that social healthcare system
mental health is health
therefore
mental health should be funded with your taxes
vote for what you want, just remember that when everyone packs their shit and leaves (read: m'ssippi) it's probably your fault mate
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Ok, I know you just like throwing a link towards the rules in discussions that arn't even talking about them.Scriptis wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 7:19 pmthis shit is being mixed up with freedom of speech/political alignment/censorship/whatever. at the end of the day political leanings should just be blacked out with a marker to decide whether something breaks the rules
i'm not threatening you
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???
can you please clarify in a few sentences what exactly you'd like me to answer because i'm half talking about the just and blind enforcement of the rules (my admin hat) and i'm half talking about stupid bullshit that drove me to the point of leaving my country of origin (my regular human being with a career and social interests hat)
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Touch grass
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Re: player acts like troll, is sentenced to live under a bridge peanut
I think we're just using this guy's case as a litmus test to see how fucked we are for expressing our own opinions because we're so radically on the other side of the spectrum from the admin team. Again, I feel the need to defend myself by saying that I still don't agree with this guy, but if we were all plotted on a political spectrum I'd be like 1/4 to the right which is only 3/4 away from this guy (at the farthest right) compared to 4/4 to the admin team (I'm guessing around 3/4 to the left based on what I see).conrad wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 6:54 pmThis is true. Staff members get away with a lot of shit just by virtue of being a staff member.Kendrickorium wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 3:36 pm admins and coders have repeatedly put political shit into IC
the fact is that you can express all the political or societal opinions that you like, as long as they are Admin Approved Opinions™
However, those two things aren't related. You're peddling someone who makes jokes about raping people with the social justice of /tg/ of "down with the admins".
Bad flag to raise if you ask me.
It's not that anyone's trying to "ban[] people who want to display support for trans people or any other part of the LGBT spectrum," it's that expressing any ideas outside of the expected and vetted opinions nets you a sniper scope to the forehead from the admins. The Intern John ban seems to be such a case but I didn't actually read it that closely so I could be wrong.Vekter wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 6:43 pm We will not be banning people who want to display support for trans people or any other part of the LGBT spectrum. If you really want to call it hypocritical because we ban all other references to current day politics, then go right ahead. It's not going to change anything, but if it makes you feel better to think I'm a big ol' meanie, then by all means.
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Oh yeah I'm sure everyone is leaving those red states in droves to California. Oh wait what's that its the other way around, what a wacky world.Scriptis wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 7:20 pmmy response was political and i'm not ceding to it because i literally left this shithole for this "shithole" because one of the two of them destroyed their economy. you'll never guess which oneBoot wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 7:17 pmSo are you going to pretend like the existence of a vast and expensive "social healthcare system" isn't a political question or can you just cede this point?Scriptis wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 7:15 pmyour tax money should absolutely pay into a social healthcare systemBoot wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 7:11 pm I 100% agree that nothing that goes on in ones pants is a political question. What is a political question is if my tax money is going to pay for any medicine of surgery to alleviate their mental issues. Even just calling it a mental issue is a political problem now because some people just want self ID.
all health services should be covered by that social healthcare system
mental health is health
therefore
mental health should be funded with your taxes
vote for what you want, just remember that when everyone packs their shit and leaves (read: m'ssippi) it's probably your fault mate
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sir can you please provide extraordinary evidence for this extraordinary claim
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